Stupid Things People Say About Rb Swaps.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

1.) IT TOTALLY THROWS THE CARS BALANCE OFF2.) YOU CAN'T DRIFT WITH RB MOTORS3.) THE SR IS MORE POWERFUL4.) IRON BLOCKS SUCK5.) (THE NEWEST TO ME) YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE YOUR RADIATOR WHEN YOU SWAP TO A RB.6.) THE SR IS A EASIER SWAP7.) IT COSTS WAY MORE THAN A SR8.) ITS LESS RELIABLE THAN A SR9.) A 2L I6 IS WORTHLESS

Post by **NISMO_RB25** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

he..he... That is because they haven't driven one yet. I am a little supprised more people don't go with the rb25 instead of the rb20. I know it is more expensive, but more power and a beefier transmission seems worth it to me.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

TO ME THE $2K PRICE DIFFERENCE IN THE CLIP AND NUMEROUS ON INSTALL PARTS IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR. WITH $2K, I COULD BUY A RB25 transmission, 9.5 TO 1 PISTONS, BIGGER TURBO, AND TURN THE BOOST UP TO ONE BAR AND HAVE MORE THAN THE RB25S OUTPUT.

Post by **JeffTN** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Another one that I have heard...

10) Good luck finding parts.

The reason that I would go with the other RB's over the RB20 is just for bragging rights. I think that is the ricer in me.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

LOL.... HEY THESE MOTORS HAVE ALOT TO BRAG ABOUT!

Post by **JeffTN** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

As far as the 20 goes, I had a 2 liter in my CRX; however, it was not a L6.

The 25 is my third option.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

You must have a B20 in that CRX right?

That thread on Zilvia frustrating you too huh Project? Hey, whatever floats their boat. I like SR's too, and may own one some day, but only when/if I have the money to spare. I'm sure they would be fun to mess with as well. The straight six is just so sweet, I don't know how anyone could pass it up.

I like the RB20, but I'm an underdog kind of guy. I really want to tap the full potential of this motor. Personally, I prefer the lower displacement.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

SAME HERE..... WELL I OFFERED UP MY RB AND CAR TO A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER, HE BACKS OFF AT THAT. I'LL GIVE UP A RB20 IF IT PROVES THEM SR GUYS RIGHT OR WRONG, I JUST WANT THOSE STUPID COMMENTS SQUASHED.

Post by **JeffTN** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Yea, I had a B20 in my CRX. It was cool and all, but I want bigger, much bigger. A SR is not a option for that reason. I would built a foxbody 5.0 or LT1 ChevyII before that.

I am not sure what thread you are talking about cause I dont get over Zilvia too much; just maybe for quick search or two.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

ITS A SR VS. RB THREAD..... AND THE STUPID ILL INFORMED ARE CHIMING IN WITH COMMENTS THAT HOLD NO GROUND. SO I SAID I'LL FINISH MY CAR EARLY AND PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER SO THEY CAN COMPARE IT AGAINST THIS ONE GUYS SR POWERED CAR. THEN I SAID THEY COULD RUN THE ENGINES AT 5500 RPM UNTIL THEY POP FOR RELIABILTY. BUT THEY GUY IS BACK TRACKING AND SAYING HE WONT LET ANYONE DRIVE THE CAR AND SUCH.

Post by **14.5drift** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Stupid things inline six owners say: I prefere the lower displacement ........he he J/M. I would definatly pick up the 25 if I were to dive into that ungodly amount of extra weight.......he he. Not to mention all the extra costs, purchase price, gas, maintenance ( flying to japan to find a freakin cooler belt hose ) etc......It's true that rb cars can't drift either, all that extra weight, instead of sliding around the corner they just slide right through the corner into some grass, ( cost of cleaning grass out from under RB car ) He He. Come on guys this thread is as ignorant as the list of "excuses" atop of this page. SR is great, RB is great, cough ahem in the skyline sniff sniff, why can't we just be friends

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Sometimes Zilvia is good and sometimes it's junk. This thread "rb vs. SR is just junk. I did learn KA's have oil squirters from this thread, so I guess all is not lost from it.

I do think it would be a great idea for someone or some magazine to take one car and swap the motor three times. First mildly build a KA to take decent boost (pistons w/ good rings at most) since it's in there, then a SR with mild mods, and a RB20 with mild mods. This is based off of one guy's idea from that thread. I don't really care which one "wins," I still like RB's the most, but it would be a really neat comparison.

So, Dave, if you are still browsing this forum, here is a "must read" article idea for you. Get McKinney to do your swap this time though.

Post by **JeffTN** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Some people are just set in their ways.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

I LIKE ALL THE MOTORS ALSO.... I JUST DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXTREMELY BIASED TOWARDS ONE, OR IGNORANTLY SAY THINGS THAT HOLD NO GROUND. IT IS ALL ON PREFERENCE AND THE ROUTE TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL YOU SET.

Post by **Project240** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

14.5drift wrote:Stupid things inline six owners say: I prefere the lower displacement ........he he J/M. I would definatly pick up the 25 if I were to dive into that ungodly amount of extra weight.......he he. Not to mention all the extra costs, purchase price, gas, maintenance ( flying to japan to find a freakin cooler belt hose ) etc......It's true that rb cars can't drift either, all that extra weight, instead of sliding around the corner they just slide right through the corner into some grass, ( cost of cleaning grass out from under RB car ) He He. Come on guys this thread is as ignorant as the list of "excuses" atop of this page. SR is great, RB is great, cough ahem in the skyline sniff sniff, why can't we just be friends

"All that extra weight?" It's like 100 pounds. There's another thread in this forum that puts those myths about RB 240s having bad weight distribution to rest. So, it's not a question of bad weight distribution, and with the motor and trans the whole car might weigh a little over 3000 lbs. Have you seen the 4-door R34 Skyline drifting in the US D1 Drift Grand Prix championship? That thing's gotta weigh just a *little* more than an RB25-powered 240SX. Why don't you go tell Grumpy from McKinney that his RB25 S13 drift car can't drift if you're so certain?

I think the ignorance lies on your side of the camp, my friend.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

PROJECTRB240SX wrote:I LIKE ALL THE MOTORS ALSO.... I JUST DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXTREMELY BIASED TOWARDS ONE, OR IGNORANTLY SAY THINGS THAT HOLD NO GROUND. IT IS ALL ON PREFERENCE AND THE ROUTE TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL YOU SET.

Exactly.

Post by **14.5drift** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Project240 wrote:"All that extra weight?" It's like 100 pounds. There's another thread in this forum that puts those myths about RB 240s having bad weight distribution to rest. So, it's not a question of bad weight distribution, and with the motor and trans the whole car might weigh a little over 3000 lbs. Have you seen the 4-door R34 Skyline drifting in the US D1 Drift Grand Prix championship? That thing's gotta weigh just a *little* more than an RB25-powered 240SX. Why don't you go tell Grumpy from McKinney that his RB25 S13 drift car can't drift if you're so certain?

I think the ignorance lies on your side of the camp, my friend.

I see you didn't catch my drift with the little he he's and ahem's. UHH for starters the rb25det has been weighed like on a scale and it weighed 180lbs. Second the rb240's distribution is not that much worse than a ka240. It's just that it is much worse than the sr or ca. I think it is more than fine for a road car, but not for track. Second I have a stock 240( means it has a ka ). I am in neither camp, I like track the same as a week end warrior, and all hale nissan skyline gtr. Don't have to be so, like my dad, geeze.

Post by **rbsileighty** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

I would rather not repeat myself, so enjoy.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showth...41732

This is my last post for this thread.

Post by **Project240** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

But, it's *not* much worse than an SR's weight distribution, that's the thing. It may not be so near perfect as the SR's is, but it's still pretty damn good.

Post by **boost infested** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

SR's are over rated!! just my opinion

Post by **14.5drift** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

boost infested wrote:SR's are over rated!! just my opinion

no respect.

Post by **Project240** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

I don't think they're overrated, they're great motors. But they do have flaws, as every motor does. I think they're not so much overrated as overpopular. Too many people want to do SR swaps into their 240s because it's what everyone does, and they're not aware of the other options they have, like RB, CA or even FJ swaps. Hell, if SCC hadn't done that Hybrid How-to on the RB25-S14 swap, I *guarantee* the RB swaps wouldn't be nearly as popular as they now are. By the same token, SR swaps are very popular, but I don't think quite as many people would have them if SCC hadn't done that huge feature in May '02 about "Build a Silvia for $3000!!!"

Post by **Joe** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

boost infested wrote:SR's are over rated!! just my opinion

this is why i dont like some aspects of the nissan community

you all want to fight to say your motor is better than everyone else's

****ing get over it.

Post by **AREITU** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

With all the sh-it going on in the zilvia thread, that just means one more RB motor/clip for the ones who like it!

A lot of people seem to have missed that thread regarding RBs and drifting...it does fine in an S13, apparnetly.

Now how about a VH41DE swap into an s13? Would that kill weight distribution too?

Post by **spec-v5150** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Put my two cents. I never really did liek Zilvia. It was too SR20 biased and I just didnt really liek the environment

Post by **oreofreak** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

Man all this talk about SRs and RBs and what engine is better makes me sick. Some of yall need to take a trip over here to Japan and see what it is all about. Here doesn't matter what engine you have under the hood. It doesn't matter if it is turbo or non-turbo. Any car can be made to be fast. I have seen toyota engines in nissans and nissan engines in toyotas. Long as you have the time any the money to put into the engine. Over here I have seen that Japanese people can drift anything with any engine. It all about skill of the driver. I have seen vans, FF cars, awd cars, and trucks drift over here better than some popular FR cars. I have seen NA power AE86 beat GTR Skylines. I have seen 600CC turbgocharged K cars beat highpowered SRs. I love all engines I just want my engine to be turbocharged:ylsuper

Post by **AREITU** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

oreofreak wrote:Man all this talk about SRs and RBs and what engine is better makes me sick. Some of yall need to take a trip over here to Japan and see what it is all about. Here doesn't matter what engine you have under the hood. It doesn't matter if it is turbo or non-turbo. Any car can be made to be fast. I have seen toyota engines in nissans and nissan engines in toyotas. Long as you have the time any the money to put into the engine. Over here I have seen that Japanese people can drift anything with any engine. It all about skill of the driver. I have seen vans, FF cars, awd cars, and trucks drift over here better than some popular FR cars. I have seen NA power AE86 beat GTR Skylines. I have seen 600CC turbgocharged K cars beat highpowered SRs. I love all engines I just want my engine to be turbocharged:ylsuper

Well, if Keiichi drove a coupe, all the "drifters" here who migrated out of their Honda Civics would drive a coupe too. If he drove an MR2, so would Honda Civic people. "SO MAD TYTE DRIFT CAR COROLLA YO"

The real drift ***** of the US is a 5-speed F-Body like in Hawaii. Of course, with group mentality, nobody here will ever realize that.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

ANYONE ON ZILVIA.NET?

IF YOU ARE CHECK OUT THE TECH THREAD ABOUT THE RB20DET.... THOSE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS.

Post by **AREITU** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

I say let them say what they want so stupid people don't pollute the ranks of the RB owners.

Post by **93RPS13** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:26 am

14.5drift wrote:I see you didn't catch my drift with the little he he's and ahem's. UHH for starters the rb25det has been weighed like on a scale and it weighed 180lbs. Second the rb240's distribution is not that much worse than a ka240. It's just that it is much worse than the sr or ca. I think it is more than fine for a road car, but not for track. Second I have a stock 240( means it has a ka ). I am in neither camp, I like track the same as a week end warrior, and all hale nissan skyline gtr. Don't have to be so, like my dad, geeze.

Just read the zilvia thread, i am not shore but i have come to a conclution the KA is heavier then the SR, also in the thread there is a link to another NICO thread that a person weight his car, i think it was either PROJECTRB240SX or rbsileighty...

oH and yea that me in the thread too:D

Stupid Things People Say About Rb Swaps.

Stupid Things People Say About Rb Swaps.

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