stupid question, im sorry

[busteds13]

i know i run the risk of being known as an idiot for this forever but...i got a CA18DET today, it needs to be put in in about three days, thats all the time ive got, after that the car needs to be moved from my friends garage, and i know i shouldent be rushing this but ive got no choice, anywho heres the stupid question, if this motorset came without a SMIC and i cant get the Front mount in time, and i know this shouldent be done...how much damage can be had with just a pipe running from the turbo to the TB straight through? given i granny drive the car to a diffrent location (20 min) untill i get the FMIC?

this is gunna hurt....

like the title says, im sorry

[tractor]

Put it on a tilt tray and do it right the first time.

[busteds13]

K thats prob whats gunna happen, i just needed someone to tell me im a dumba** for even thinking of doing it, thanx

[float_6969]

I've run my CA w/o any sort of intercooler multiple times. As long as you stay out of it, you'll be fine. Unhook the wastgate arm from the flapper on the exhaust housing and unless you run it up to redline or something, you shouldn't make too much boost anyway.

You're not going to drop that motor in an have it running in 3 days regardless, so I wouldn't try.

Can't you take the car someplace else and drop the motor in there?

[busteds13]

unfourtinatley not, im basically skrewed on this, the next few days are gunna hurt......but its reassuring to know that i can run it without an IC thanx for a prompt and educated responce, i thought i was gunna get flamed like none other.......

the next few days are gunna hurt....

[RS12Turbo]

It will be fine, as long as you keep boost to a minimum.........infact the early ca18dets that came in the s12 weren't even intercooled.My original motor (ca18et) wasn't factory intercooled either, and I ran 10-12 psi for many years before I got my front mount

[busteds13]

i feel considerably less stupid, thank you all

this is by far the most helpfull Nissan forum,

[r34 gtr]

haha, we try, we try. consider us the rolls royce of nissan/infiniti foums.

[busteds13]

i know, ive been quietly reading for like four years, and had to sighn up just recentley, cuz the classefieds were easier to deal with as a member im here more than any p0rn site thanx for the imput guys

[Phyrx]

Why cant he drop the motor in and have it running in 3 days??

A CA18 swap can be done in a days time... got my motor on friday morning 12:00 AM, Went to work at 2:00 pm, got home from work @ 9:30 pm and had the motor running by 4:00 AM This was in a SOHC S13

But it can definitely be done in 3 days or less. lol

[ca18det240hatch]

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Why cant he drop the motor in and have it running in 3 days??

A CA18 swap can be done in a days time... got my motor on friday morning 12:00 AM, Went to work at 2:00 pm, got home from work @ 9:30 pm and had the motor running by 4:00 AM This was in a SOHC S13

But it can definitely be done in 3 days or less. lol

i have to agree with him....i do swaps in 10 hrs or less , sr20det or ca18det......

i do the famous drop it off on friday pick it up sunday morning swap in calgary haha.

[ca18datsun510]

it takes you guys that long

i think float was trying to give him a realistic time frame since he seems to be new to this.

[r34 gtr]

it takes me forever because i always hurt myself and give up. its also the south, we do things slower down here.

[ca18det240hatch]

it takes me forever because i always hurt myself and give up. its also the south, we do things slower down here.

including think?

[r34 gtr]

depends on my blood alcohol level.

[ca18det240hatch]

soooo..being from the south.....yes?

[r34 gtr]

im pretty quick on the draw until the sun goes down, or its a weekend.

[page02wrx]

Yeah the reason for an intercooler is to cool higher boost levels down to avoid detonation. Air heats up when it compresses, so naturally the more air you compression (higher boost) the hotter the air, meaning after X temperature an intercooler is required to avoid detonation.

Don't boost, the air will stay cool, you wont detonate. If you do decide you want to rip on it, you'll run the risk of EGT's skyrocketing or the intake charge becoming too hot and - booooooooooom

Find a way to boost 7-8psi and you probably dont even need an intercooler... maybe just some type of cold air intake? So its not sucking in hot engine bay air.

[float_6969]

it takes you guys that long

i think float was trying to give him a realistic time frame since he seems to be new to this.

Exactly, I could quite easily do it in a day w/o much trouble, but I've done it multiple times.

Unless you're comfortable with wiring, that is where most people get hung up at.

And the vac lines, IDK why, but the vac lines screw people up too...

[r34 gtr]

i just use three. screw that butterfly junk, its too complicated. zero low end torque is where its at.

[float_6969]

Is that what the girls tell you?

[busteds13]

it takes you guys that long

i think float was trying to give him a realistic time frame since he seems to be new to this.

im not new to this, ive done two SR20 swaps, and ive swapped two KA's outta this car by myself, in six hours, the first time was longer, the bastards kept on blowing up, so i got pissed and bought a CA, and ive got an car electronicks trained friend whos doing my wiring, and the forum, and you guys , so im hoping im goodPlus the engine has a stock nissan oil filter on it, little rust in the cooling lines, minimal turbo shaft play, and looks like no ones really seriously ever messsed with it, one thing that ticks me off is that it came sans ignitor anyone in michigan near detroit got one i could buy? thanx for the imput by the way all of you

[Masterdebater]

u can get it done in 3 days even a beginner..the wiring is simple just color match.last time i did mine (3rd time is a charm) took about 6 hours but quit at night time because my polyurethane mounts didnt like to line up as well as stock ones lol

[ca18datsun510]

electronicks

?por que?

wow, four hole swaps, and 2 by yourself? you must be a master tech. j/k

anyhow, beware the the ca curse of oversight. for whatever reason, ca swaps always seem to fail, or get held up, by the dumbest thing the first time you do it, even if you are familiar with mechanical work.

[mrzabala]

Guess Im more than familar with mechanical work? Har Har Har... I didnt know it always turns out like that. Glad the ca swap I did started because I did everything myself and hard wired most of it (hehehe sucks for the fool that payed me, that douche bag deserves it).

[r34 gtr]

i usually take for ever, but its because i am the patron saint of half-assed engine work. you guys knew that though.

[busteds13]

anyhow, beware the the ca curse of oversight. for whatever reason, ca swaps always seem to fail, or get held up, by the dumbest thing the first time you do it, even if you are familiar with mechanical work.

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ive allready fallen prey to the curse, ive got no ignitor chip, so youre right, but i brought the swaps up as an example, that im not completley stupid in regards of engine swaps, and cars in general

[busteds13]

i put up a post in Wanted for an ignitor chip, and got a reply about an SR20 and an RB ignitor chip, will either of those work at all? or should i just start calling junkyards?

[float_6969]

?por que?

wow, four hole swaps, and 2 by yourself? you must be a master tech. j/k

anyhow, beware the the ca curse of oversight. for whatever reason, ca swaps always seem to fail, or get held up, by the dumbest thing the first time you do it, even if you are familiar with mechanical work.

This is the damn truth. There have been many members who've been hung up for weeks chasing grimlens with their motors.

i put up a post in Wanted for an ignitor chip, and got a reply about an SR20 and an RB ignitor chip, will either of those work at all? or should i just start calling junkyards?

The SR should work, but you'll have to get the SR plugs and re-wire the harness for it. Or you could get one from a Q45 and it drops right in....

[busteds13]

do you happen to know the location of the thread that tells me how to rewire them?, or would you be so kind as to share the knowlege?