Stupid Daylights Savings Time

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Back at Trophy, Cliff and I had an interesting conversation about the origins of DST. Turns out that my school basically made up something they thought sounded good. It sounded so good that it was taught to Cliff 20 years earlier. When he told me what his wife was taught we had a nice hearty laugh...mostly because we are two of the most arrogant people you'll ever meet and also because her story was so stupid. Well, it intrigued me even more so I studied up on it and found out, she was right. That is why I hate DST. It's one thing to have wrong information...it's downright embarrassing to find out you've been spreading that wrong information for a total of 40 years (Cliff and my total years of spreadage.) BUT the last time I told this story I did more research and found out that Cliff and I were right. Differnet areas have different reasons for DST and of course not everyone recognizes DST which means that if you're in an area that doesn't recognize it and you're right near another time zone you're all jacked up.

The point of all this? Don't forget to set your clocks back 1 hr tonight.



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Horaay for an extra hour of sleep!

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Did I miss something or did you NOT include the two versions of DST's origins? You've got my attention... NOW DELIVER!!!

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I figured someone would ask. When I was in elementary school, we were taught that DST was created when the big business in the U.S. were farmers. DST allowed them more sleep in the winter and more daylight during harvest season. This was the explanation that Cliff was given as well (also an African lady I used to work with).

Cliff's wife, who grew up a yankee in Ohio, told a very different story. Her version was really sweet. She told us that in her school they were taught that DST was created to give kids who walked home more daylight during the school year as a safety measure. Now this was a sweet story but it just didn't seem to be a real enough reason for the govt. to establish a rule such as DST.

What I've come to accept is different areas have indeed agreed to keep DST or not for different reasons. I'm okay with that.

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Man, I think I read a story online, or maybe it was on Jay Lenno or something...

but this lady wrote into a "letters to the editor" column of her local paper, concerning DST. She was convinced that DST was contributing to global warming because of the extra hours of daylight!!!!

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She's probably a teacher.

j/k I have great respect for all teachers....outside of Louisiana.

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rofl thats hilarious

i dont know if dst was included, but time zones were created in 1883 to make sense of railroad timetables, maybe was dst created for the farming reason around the same time?

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In 1918, in order to conserve resources for the war effort, the U.S. Congress placed the country on Daylight Saving Time for the remainder of WW I. It was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. The law, however, proved so unpopular that it was later repealed.

When America went to war again, Congress reinstated Daylight Saving Time on February 9, 1942. Time in the U.S. was advanced one hour to save energy. It remained advanced one hour forward year-round until September 30, 1945.

via http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html

This was one of the other guys theories at Trophy.

DST was created by the devil to drive us all mad.

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aahh so it had nothing to do with the creation of time zones really then...

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I love it in the fall, but hate it in the spring. I don't want to give my hour back at the end of it's term

*needs his beauty sleep... and then some*

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well all i know is that i got off of work today at 6:30pm and it was almost twilight.

Tomorrow at the same time, it will be good full on afternoon, and thats why they do it, so your schedule is timed with the daylight.

its really simple and these explanations dont really help.

Oh yeah, so if you know about it, hten why haven't the clock times changed on the site?

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haha my nico time has a mind of its own, all the posts show pacific time even though i tell it in my user options that im central time, ive gotten used to adding 2 hours to all the times on the site.

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Thank you DST. Got an extra hour of sleep to recover from last nights events. My head still aches though. Damn Jello shots. Oh!

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2BN_S13 wrote:its really simple and these explanations dont really help.

Oh yeah, so if you know about it, hten why haven't the clock times changed on the site?
I didn't write this stuff, I just report it.

What do I look like, the clock keeper. The clocks in my house won't get changed unless they change themselves. I live on an internal clock. I don't even wear a watch.

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I just always thought that DST was created to conserve energy or something.


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Arizona isn't at war, thats why we stoped using DST after the WWs.

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extra hour of sleep....or drinking!

god I'm hungover and can't sleep...

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I went to bed at a reasonable hour(midnight old time) and what happens? I get woke up at 5am cause some dumbass stole a car and got run off the rode and into a fence by a highway patrol on my street. Car catches on fire, firetrucks and more cop cars show up. Oh ya just what i wanted at 5am.

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haha i did the same thing and some girl in my dorm got alcohol poisoning at 3 in the morning, the whole fire department was right out front for like 45 min with the lights on, it was impossible to sleep

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w1ngzer0 wrote:Arizona isn't at war, thats why we stoped using DST after the WWs.
Neither is Indiana.It is actually pretty humorous trying to explain to people that Indiana (except for the NW, SE and SW portions) is always on EST. The rest of the Eastern Time zone observes daylight savings time. This issue has been a long standing political debate in Indiana. It appears that no one has come up with a legitimate reason to switch or not to switch. The debate really boils down to which time zone this state will fall into. The people up towards Chicago want to stay on CST and set their clocks as such. The people near Cincinnati want to stay on EST and set their clocks as such. The people down in Evansville want to stay on CST and do as such. The problem arises when counties and some towns are split as to what time zone they observe. If you are called for Jury Duty, you may be late depending on what side of town you live on. People in Indiana don’t want to change, because the State Legislators want an all or nothing time zone. They will not let the people in these surrounding counties (NW, SE and SW) observe a different time. But the reasons to observe DST or not to run the gambit:Some say that it helps the farmers. They get their work done according to sunlight. The clock comes to play when they have meetings that are held in the community and they run out of daylight to work. Others say that more light during the summer time cuts down on crime. They claim that more crime happens at night and when kids out of school as well as more people out and about during the summer that crime is more common. If it gets dark later, people will be less likely to commit crime.Others say that it will help people outside of Indiana do business with Indiana by avoiding confusion. There is more work and planning related to doing business with Indiana. When shipping goods to or from Indiana, people have to keep two sets of time tables so that deadlines are met.

Personally, I couldn’t care less about DST. Most arguments for and against DST are superficial. I would rather keep things the way they are.

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lol here in north dakota over summer it stays light until around 1030, tell those people from indiana to come uo here, god knows theres enough room for them

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I always thought that DST was instituted to adjust for the change in how much sunlight we get during different months. I thought that some areas didn't change their clocks because the sunlight didn't really change that much.

I mean, the whole point of a clock is to aproximate what the sun is doing isn't it?

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I can't believe how many people still complain about it. You GAIN an extra hour which is freaking awesome. I hate DST in the spring though but it helps to conserve energy.

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I'm going Cosmo Kramer style. For me, it's 3:45 and I should have left work 45 minutes ago. they are keeping me late i guess. though i don't know why they yelled at me for being an hour late, crazy people.

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vicki wrote:I can't believe how many people still complain about it. You GAIN an extra hour which is freaking awesome. I hate DST in the spring though but it helps to conserve energy.
How, so? There are still 24 hours in the day. If DST gave you 25 hours a day, that would rock. Instead, the hour you gain equals to an hour you have to sacrifice somewhere else.

Time was invented by man and leave it to man to screw that up too.

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I meant on the night it changes. You get an extra hour of sleep.

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vicki wrote:I meant on the night it changes. You get an extra hour of sleep.
Too bad that wasn't Sunday night. Man I'm tired....

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vicki wrote:I meant on the night it changes. You get an extra hour of sleep.
I know, I'm just being difficult.


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