I would love to have a leaf mostly because i don't pay for electricity. The new technology is really intriguing and i have faith in quality Nissan engineering. besides my complete lack of funds to buy a new car there are a few things to think about.zsozso wrote:I would love to reserve one, but they do not accept reservations from Canada.
As for reasons:
1. Zero emissions
2. Zero CO2 -- not counted as "emission" officially, but also very harmful for the environment
3. Near--zero maintenance, very few moving mechanical parts to wear off and break down compared to ICE
4. Fractional operating cost
5. Low noise level
6. Clean, not only in terms of air pollution, but also no oil dripping
As is all the mining of the copper it's going to take for those electric vehicles.The production and transport of gasoline is VERY dirty process.
retrodog wrote:I don't think anybody thinks that they, as an individual, is saving the planet. They do feel, however, that they are making it a little better in an incremental way.
To say that a lifestyle which incorporates some wasteful usages can not be supportive of conservation by taking a few steps in the right direction is technically flawed. Kind of ridiculous. Now while the person can't say that they are extremely green, it's still a step in the right direction that they can be proud of.
All that stuff about the copper and lead mines was just started by the Hummer crowd on that e-mail that was floating around a few years ago, falsely describing why a Hummer was more green than a hybrid. Typical right-wing spin. <yawn>
For my personal usage and mileage requirements, the Volt would be my preference as well. Ideally I would go all electric, but I need at least a 150-200 mile range for it to be a viable vehicle for my use, which the Leaf can't do right now and the Volt can. But the Leaf's target market isn't me, and the Volt's is. Regardless, I'm not in the market for a new car right now, so I won't be purchasing either in the near future, I'm just a big fan of EV's and truly believe they are the vehicle of the future.Bubs daddy wrote:...I believe GM's Volt is approaching it the best way for now: electric car with small gas engine to recharge batteries for more range. Eventually, they may not need that small on board engine.
I agree with your comments in fact, Bubs, your viewpoints about the EV's and the Volt are very correct. But I don't understand the cynicism. In the grand scheme of things the goal is to end dependence on fossil fuels. Why begrudge those that are enthusiastic, the satisfaction of getting started with the new technology? The Leaf is the start of bigger and better things to come.Bubs daddy wrote:I'll wait until these EV's get a 400 mile range with a ten minute recharge time. Then I'll consider. But I agree nuclear is the way to go.
I don't doubt that ev cars will be more viable, more advanced, and more utilized in 20 years. It will take that long for the development of the infrastructure to support a completely different kind of car. I believe GM's Volt is approaching it the best way for now: electric car with small gas engine to recharge batteries for more range. Eventually, they may not need that small on board engine.
Yikes.complete switch over to nuclear power would be even more problematic for global warming