Stroker kit or Individual

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Okay im having a dilema right about now and need some suggestions. Okay i finally got everything i need to build my motor the way i want it except a few items. I would like to know wat you all think about this. Should I go with the Brian Crower stroker kit or buy individual parts. The stroker kit comes with a steel billet balanced crank, custom alluminum forged pistons, and forged rods with wrist pins and the piston rings. Or should i buy a billet crank, cp forged pistons and eagle rods? If i buy the stroker kit it will push my 2.4l to 2.65l roughly making it 2.7l motor also since everything is evenally balanced and works better with the corresponding matched parts makes it a fully balanced system. So what do you think should i buy the stroker kit or individual parts? Also the stroke on the kit is 102mm. And last but not least whats the difference between the Brian Crower storker kits BC0219, BC0218, and BC0209???

[motoman399]

if you have the money, i would stoke it. are you going to turbo it? or just N/A? if your staying N/A, then your going to have to spend a lot of money to get decent power from it. good luck

[OutToWinPAHC]

Increased stroke, increased compression, so your compensating for this by a deeper dished piston.... ehhh not worth all the work for a turbo motor. Billet crank? Meh I prefer a forged steel one myself. I would go with a simple overbore, steel crank at stock stroke, good forged rods, and forged pistons. Then have a machine shop balance it all, and order the bearings so you know they are in spec with blueprint.

Machine and bottom end assembly should run about 1000-1600.

[alms24sebring]

Yeah I would keep stock stroke but all other upgraded internal. Bore it .020 over, rebuild. It will be pretty reliable in the long run but also powerful with the turbo. I wouldnt spend the money on the stroker but thats just me

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Yea im turboing it i have the top end all lined up to be installed just dont know what i should do about bottom end ya know? Cuz i dont want to keep stock crank thats just dumb, but if i mix and match parts then everything will have to be balanced and the pistons will have to be shaved to fit and i already know that i need .20 overbore for the pistons to fit but when it meets TDC its gunna need to be shaved and i already got the stainless steel valves. So my question is wouldnt the balanced stroker kit be easier?

[DanThaMan]

Why would you not want to use the stock crank? First of all, it's free, second it's forged and more than strong enough to hold together, and being that KAs aren't a box design, they don't like that much rpm, so extensive balancing isn't super necessary...I would say the stroker kit isn't worth the money.

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Well im gunna be running high boost and RPM's. Thats why i want a fully balanced system and a billet crank holds very strong but 1,700 dollars for just the crank is wack. I need to know what to do for the bottom end as of right now this is where i stand on my motor.

Mods:
Garret gt35r turbo
90 degree turbo elbow and heat blanket
FMIC kit and piping
Downpipe
ceramic turbo manifold
.38mm tial wastegate
SSQV HKS BOV
Brian Crower 272/272 cams
timing gear kit
ARP headstuds bottom and top
850cc injectors and greddy fuel rail
Brian crower retainer spring kit
greddy emanage system
mishimoto radiator dual fan
AEM wideband o2 sensor
255 walbro fuel pump
oil catch pan
HKS Hi-Flow catback 3''
upgraded FPR
stainless steel valves
ACT stage 4 clutch
fidanza flywheel
aluminum driveshaft
Head ported and polished to fit forged pistons but i need to figured out the bottom end in order to piece whole motor together because i have all the parts sitting in my garage ready to be installed.

[j_d_240sxpwns]

I dont want the stock crankshaft to break and f*** up my motor thats why i need a very solid bottom end im pushing for 450-525whp thats my goal.

[martins_240sx]

okay maybe ive been living under a rock and know nothing about ka's...but i have never heard of a ka breaking its crank...I was lying about the not knowing part...mine has exceeded your goals and the crank is the very least of my worries .........see sig \/

[motoman399]

wasnt Ivan with the 1000HP KA running a stock crank for a while? for your power goal the stock crank will be fine. you can just spend the extra money on a set of eagle rods and wisco pistons for me and it will be cheaper than your new crank. saving you money and you pay for my thoughts lol. jk jk. but seriously.

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Thats what i needed to know cuz my friends stock crankshaft busted when he jumped the line at the drag strip running 28psi of boost and at 550whp. If i wasnt gunna get the stroker kit my other option was Eagle rods H-beams, CP forged pistons wisco pistons and have everything balanced at the shop. How does that sound?

[OM3GA]

Sounds like it is going to be a beast.

[DJButton]

Thats what i needed to know cuz my friends stock crankshaft busted when he jumped the line at the drag strip running 28psi of boost and at 550whp. If i wasnt gunna get the stroker kit my other option was Eagle rods H-beams, CP forged pistons and have everything balanced at the shop. How does that sound?

I would go this route over the BC kit if I had your goals for the car.

[motoman399]

Thats what i needed to know cuz my friends stock crankshaft busted when he jumped the line at the drag strip running 28psi of boost and at 550whp. If i wasnt gunna get the stroker kit my other option was Eagle rods H-beams, CP forged pistons wisco pistons and have everything balanced at the shop. How does that sound?

ya that will be fine. there are plenty of people making your power goals on a stock crank. what rpm are you wanting to run? there are several things to consider when you go over about 7300 rpm. was your friend using a ka?

post some pics of your setup. it sounds pic worthy!

[alms24sebring]

Agreed maybe you could get the crank polished and cleaned up atleast.

Why do you have to shave the pistions??

[DanThaMan]

yeah man, make a build thread, your parts list sounds pretty baller and should have some pictures for us to drool over

[OutToWinPAHC]

GT35R and 850CC's? undersized much?

[j_d_240sxpwns]

GT35R and 850CC's? undersized much?

Sarcastic or do i need to run bigger injectors like 1000'S?

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Agreed maybe you could get the crank polished and cleaned up atleast.

Why do you have to shave the pistions??

If i wasnt gunna get the stroker kit i would have the machine shop polish up the crank and balance if need be, but wouldnt i need to have the CP pistons shaved to fit they wont just throw in and be good to go would they everything has to be a balanced setup.

[j_d_240sxpwns]

Thats what i needed to know cuz my friends stock crankshaft busted when he jumped the line at the drag strip running 28psi of boost and at 550whp. If i wasnt gunna get the stroker kit my other option was Eagle rods H-beams, CP forged pistons wisco pistons and have everything balanced at the shop. How does that sound?

ya that will be fine. there are plenty of people making your power goals on a stock crank. what rpm are you wanting to run? there are several things to consider when you go over about 7300 rpm. was your friend using a ka?

post some pics of your setup. it sounds pic worthy!

Well with my setup i cant just spitball and guess how much rpm its gunna be making i havent the slightest idea but if it was to exceed 7300 rpm i dont wanna blow it after dumping "10-15gs of over night parts from japan" lol movie reference love it!

[j_d_240sxpwns]

yeah man, make a build thread, your parts list sounds pretty baller and should have some pictures for us to drool over

Well its really hard for me to find time to work on my build as im a full time college student and work everyday except sundays so i dont wanna make people wait and or getmad cuz i only post every once in a while. My car has alot of body work to do rust isa killer and rust holes in quarter panels with rust in engine bay gunna take some serious work the dbag that had car left it sat for 7 years through winter and everything. I think only thing that was half savable was the b&m short shifter and the 17'' ziegen 5zr rims. Dont worry though sometime near future ill get some pics in here i gotta do body work first so those will be first to come.

[motoman399]

Well with my setup i cant just spitball and guess how much rpm its gunna be making i havent the slightest idea but if it was to exceed 7300 rpm i dont wanna blow it after dumping "10-15gs of over night parts from japan" lol movie reference love it!

well just be aware and so some research as to what you will have to do. you dont really NEED to run high rpm to achieve that power, but it sure would be cool lol. you could get away with stock redline and get your power without a problem IMO

[sm0611]

GT35R and 850CC's? undersized much?

Sarcastic or do i need to run bigger injectors like 1000'S?

Not sarcasm