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Man BB turbo, that's a very interesting story, and no it's not too late because my speech isn't till a few more weeks, but i can't believe that buy wasn't wearing a helmet and was racing


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It is a sad story but racing in a bike with NO protective gear....man he was asking for it. I have never been an "organized" street race. Most of my street racign was doen on backroads just cruising around...not saying I have never raced street lighjt to street light but only at night. After liek 1000 no is out except for the "racres" if you will so it is a little bit better, but I decided to keep it at the track mostly because just cruising around was a waste of gas....most peopel would rather ride around with christmas lights in their window I guess because they cant afford Neons...LOL (that is a TRUE statement...fuuniest **** I have ever seen)

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The way i look at street racing is, despite most comments and claims..

everybody poops :D

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haha, "everybody poops" lol

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the only real light to light racing i've ever done is against my close buddy when it's really desolate out...n he has an RSX-S...always a close race (me in a cooper S) fun stuff really...but we dont do it often

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I cant count the number of street races I have been involved in. I've been around it since I was about 13. I used to go with my brother, I guess I kinda learned it from him. Most of my races have been at night, on non residential roads. I DO NOT race through curves on the street, that is how all of the idiots around here bite the dust!! Only straight line and I don't race to a speed that I think is unsafe for conditions. Usually after racing through a few gears, you already know who the winner is. I admit, I have been 150+ on the highway around here....at like 3am sunday night. Well, there was the time I raced a WS6 with NOS during the day with my GN on the highway. I think we hit 140 or so, my 3rd gear was burned up at the time, made the race kinda close. Anyway, my point is, if you are gonna do it, use your freakin head!! When you start feeling uneasy, don't try to impress someone by pushing the car harder....just let off and slow down. Better to lose than to die....at least you live to race another day!!

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Go karts are the way to go!! thats where driving skill really counts!!

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S13GUY wrote:- Just because its illegal in the eyes of the law, doesnt make it morally wrong .
yes it does, because 99% of all laws are based on morals.

Quote »it doesnt matter whether its an adequate excuse, do you think a murderer would ever have a justifying excuse for doing what he did? and over here the only speedway nearby is Irwindale which is about 25 min from where i live (Pomona) away and its only open Thurs & Sun, and they close early. So leave racing to the pros [/quote]

im sorry but PLEASE STOP SAYING LEAVE RACING TO THE PRO'S. That is the most retarded statement i have ever heard. There are hundreds of organizations in-place for legal racing, dont give any of that bullcrap that irwindale is the closest and only place you can go racing, if your in Socal you have more places to go racing that 95% of the rest of the country.

"oh man, the racetrack is like 25 minutes away (OMFG 25 WHOLE MINUTES?!?!?!!1!1111 THATS LIKE A MILLION YEARS!11) and is only open 2 days a week!!11!! i need to race at least 4 days a week11!!!!!"

I spend a hour+ on the road everytime i want to go racing. I would rather hit the track 5 times for the less than the cost of ONE ticket for street racing.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:yes it does, because 99% of all laws are based on morals.


that leaves one percent (i can subtract :) ) of laws that arent based on morals. So this law of street racing could be categorized into that 1%, making morals irellevant to the law. Is street racing really morally wrong? Are those whove commited unintentional man slaughter bc of racing just as bad as murderers and rapists?

- and yes, irwindale is the closest strip from my location , pomona. They shut down the fairplex so we have to go to irwindale. I mean, its fine if you go by yourself but if you just wanna hang out with friends who like racing but arent really seriously into it, i think an hour drive would discourage your friends from going. im not saying, then we would use public roads instead. Id also prefer it if they were open more days bc some of us usually dont have time to go race on thurs and sun.

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someone close ths thread soon, i can already feel the presence of cold war flaming already here. :flamer

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If you use the excuse that you street race because you don't want to drive a distance to a race track to do it legally, then you don't deserve to have a license. Plain and simple. IMHO I'm afraid it'll require a horrific accident to get thru street racer's thick skulls that they're doing something stupid and reckless. Punishment for street racing is not harsh enough.

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i think running over your right hand w/your own car in the town square and a suspension of 5 years w/o a license should be a good punishment , And Ill be the one running over people hands with a smile on my face while laughing :MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!! and i get paid too :)

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There are no quarter mile tracks within easy driving distance of Louisville.

There is a nice 1/8th and there is a place where the cops tolerate it as long as we behave but thats also only a 8th of a mile.

Last summer I did a lot of streetracing, picked my opponents carefully ( fast enough so its cool to beat/run them but not so fast, they would out-class me) and always won.

I raced a bit this summer too, but not as much, since my car was never properly sorted out , still was kinda fun.

felt kinda bad for some guys tho.

One night I raced 3 guys and one of them broke his shifter and another the landed in a ditch and totaled his nice Galant GTZ ( I think).

But it was all in a desolate area (industrial park at night) devoid of others so we wont endanger anyone but ourselves.

One night we wanted to race there but there were late shifts running and I shut us down so we wouldnt be unsafe, even though we had all our walkie-talkies and were prepped and were chomping at the bits.

It's very important I think to use some judgment at your location

Next summer I'll have my car fully sorted out and we'll have some fun.

Fred....:fruit

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Enjoy:

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....d=100

Fred..:)

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S13GUY wrote:Go to your local book store and check out Initial d: Volume 1 ha-ha

I will share my first scary road race experience back when I was a stock racer:

It was 3:00 in a sunny Friday afternoon. My friend, ill call him Kevin, calls me up to check out a new mountain pass. I go “ok, I guess I have enough time before my date’’. So imp planning to get back like at 5:00 or 6:00 at the latest. He says, “should pick up Kate?" it was my friend and he wanted to take her. “no, I don’t want any liabilities" I tell him. So we leave in separate cars (my s13 and his AE86) and travel there. After about 20 min of driving, we finally arrive at Glendora mountain road/ pass (to those of you who live in So. Cal, it’s the road you take to get to Big Bear).

So we go uphill for about 20 min of cruising and we stop at a turnout to check out the scenery. We see a couple of 240s there too, an s13 (later on we find out he’s sr20'd) and a real s15. So then we start to head back because I had a previous engagement. (5:30 pm) On the way back my friend decided he wanted to lead, I had no problem so I let him go ahead. He starts to push it a bit but I hold back, being it’s my 1st time on that mountain. While were going downhill, he pushes it more and pulls out of sight be of the sharp corners. So I keep my pace and after the next corner I see my friend going pretty fast on a 90 degree corner. right then I thought "****, he’s not going to make it" he starts to drift but then he counter steered too late, so he starts to swerve and the 2nd time he swerved, SMACK!! His whole passenger side smacked right on the canyon wall, he is scraping the wall for like 3 seconds and then he swerves again but pulls a 180 degree turn. I brake immediately and get out of my car to help my friend. He and his car stopped on the oncoming lane facing opposite towards me and they are both about 1 yard away from the cliff of the mountain from falling to their horrible demise. My friend is in shock so I quickly get him out. then he realizes what happened and he asks me to drive his car onto the turnout, so I do and when we check out the car, the canyon rocks cut into his rear right fender, cracked both of his rims, cracked his rear axle, slashed his rear passenger tire, and his front passengr tire was knocked out of place so the air was leaking, all on the passengers side of the car. “Good thing we have a no passenger policy" I tell him. Well turns out he forgot his spare tire (yeah, what a dumb ****). After I smack him for forgetting it, I get out my spare and replace his rear tire (hes still shocked and didnt help, jerk). (6:45) Then i proceed to fix his passenger front tire but it kept getting deflated, after about 45 min i give up.

So we wait for some time, while it’s getting colder and darker, for someone so we can call for help, but no one came..... until! Ta ta dada!!!! 240s to the rescue!!! the 240s we saw earlier were heading back and were heading our way, they see our emergency lights and pull over. they start to ask whether we were injured and if we needed help . Well we explained our dilemma and the one with the s13 offered us his spare, so we used it and my freinds AE86 is running on 2 spares. Well i asked where he lived so i can give him back his spare but he said " dont worry about " so im like, cool. well i get home like at 8:25pm and i have a voicemail. its the blood curdling voice of my date who said i stood her up and that she cancelled her plans with her friends to go out with me and yada yada yada blah blah blah.......... anyways, i just open up a can of Mountain Dew and call my friend to see if she was doing anything, so she walks to my house and turns on the tv to FOX asks... "So.. Whatd you do today?"

Moral of the story: Dont go fast ur 1st time , and dont take passengers if you plan to drive more agressive than usual


OK Mike(S13guy) this is totally BS. Why do you always lie about things that happened? I didn't ask you to take your friend. When we got to Glendora we didnt get out of the cars, I was already leading. When I crashed you werent even close behind me! YOu were a few hairpins back when it happened; and DONT LIE, after you were asking if I almost fell off the cliff; which proves that you werent there when the accident happened because I hit the INSIDE wall of the mountain. I drove onto the road after I hit the wall; I wasn't about to fall over, I just pulled ONTO the road. There was no 180 degree turn; I wasn't even in the opposite lane, I was a little bit into the lane facing the right way. You didnt get me out, I got out myself. AFter we checked the damage I asked you to drive the car to the side for me because I was in a kind of shock. I HAD MY SPARE TIRE YOU LIAR. I used your tire up front and my tire in the rear. I was the one who mounted BOTH of them; you just got me the tire out of your car and the patch kit; No really Mike, this is one of the reasons I stopped hanging around with you; you lie and manipulate people just to make yourself look cool. How come you didnt talk about the accident you had at turnbull? Where I was leading you 10 cars and you hit the wall taking a retarded line and blew your clutch on the freeway? That wasnt our first time either; that was our third time. Stop being a liar Mike, liars go to hell.

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Also you didn't know that I damaged my axle until I told you the next week; I only bent one rim, the other rim I still have on my car...and you cant crack an axle; its made out of solid metal....OH WAIT YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT AN AXLE LOOKS LIKE!@

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dude, get a gf and get a life besides snooping at all of my posts . way to kick a dead horse

-btw my neighbior wants to know if ur taking her to prom

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I dunno.....I used to go out to the street races (never particapated) & ive seen one guy die in a vr4 who got wrapped around a poll, a guy destroy his nice looking saturn hitting a curb head on at around 75, and an idiot in a Trans am he couldnt control crash into like 5 cars parked along the road......and what finally stopped me from going was a visit to the courtroom, and the judge telling me next time im in there for any type of offence involving racing my car/license will be taken plus fines & a few days in jail...so my streetracing days are pretty much done, Ive only been out once since then (not in my car) to watch two people i knew race. But i really dont mind because around here in Tampa its degenerated into abunch of kids with moms corola S drunk on budwiser who think pulling thier e-brake and making their tires smoke for about half a second is "mad tyte yo" and most of the cars that go out there are crap...other than a few people with nice and actually fast rides. I still go out to the car "shows" & hangout with everybody before they hit the race spots....but after awhile it does get stale...now my friends and I usually just go to bradenton to run the 1/4 mile legally.

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Bubba1 wrote:If you use the excuse that you street race because you don't want to drive a distance to a race track to do it legally, then you don't deserve to have a license. Plain and simple. IMHO I'm afraid it'll require a horrific accident to get thru street racer's thick skulls that they're doing something stupid and reckless. Punishment for street racing is not harsh enough.


Look I'm not condoning anything here , but you could have a horrific accident at the tracks too. Or pulling out of your driveway or running to the bathroom. Drag racers of the 60's never learned their leeson , look at their sport now.

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It's not street racing itself, its the people involved with it that are stupid.

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D-UNIT wrote:Look I'm not condoning anything here , but you could have a horrific accident at the tracks too. Or pulling out of your driveway or running to the bathroom. Drag racers of the 60's never learned their leeson , look at their sport now.


True, but race tracks have EMT's, fire trucks, rescue workers, they require helmets, all cars must pass a tech inspection, and most importantly there are no side streets/driveways/buildings where innocent people/animals could inadvertantly cross into cross into the race's path. That's what happened to me.

And street racers from the 1960's are now in their 60's and you don't see them street racing now. Why? Because they wised up. Most of the street racers on these threads are young and haven't yet figured out how reckless and stupid street racing is.It's not the drag racing that's bad, It's the location.

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Yes it seems like common sense. But you would be suprised at how many people out there don't use it [common sense] when they are driving.

Now think about not using it in racing. It's ten times worse, believe me I lived through it.

Basically, the best advice I can give is when you are racing if you want to race. Be safe about it. Don't go doing things that are too stupid and use your common sense when doing it.

A little common sense will go a long way.:ylsuper

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i used to be a big fan of streetracing. i would go out, watch, occasionally run, and have a good time bs'ing with all the guys that would come out night after night just for the very reason of having fun.

why did i stop? the element of the "unwanted". our spot was a secluded business park, behind a huge warehouse building that had a nice wide/long parking lot plenty large for a good run to about 80mph with plenty of room to avoid the person next to you. there was one entrance in/out of the building so there was no chance of anyone randomly finding their way out to our strip and we raced from the end where the driveway came in to the other end of the lot. everyone that came out was very safe and a good group of people an had all become good friends and we all had the same understanding that the races only happened here or at the real track, that was it. it was kind of a gentleman's code of conduct, if you will. but all good things must come to an end. one week someone brings a friend there, then that friend tells a friend, and a friend of a friend, and before we know it we have a bunch of people hanging around acting a damn fool doing burnouts on the street in front of the building and at the end of the business park we were in, just generally drawing a ton of unwanted attention. you can only ask them to leave so many times before asking becomes agression though, and stuff turned into fights and stupidity runs rampant. our once wonderful spot has turned into the local place to rev your honda (nothing against hondas, but they were the primary car causing problems out there) and show off your newest neon add on to your other braindead friends.

needless to say, we (everyone respectable) stopped going there shortly thereafter. since then there have been 3 or 4 wrecks as a result of the stupidity of the people going there now and at least one alleged shooting (no one was hit but a gun came out and shots were fired). i dunno exactly when streetracing became a gang related thing, but i now only dream of the fun we used to have:( . the stakes are too high and the good spots have all been overrun by idiots. it's hard enough to hang out in a parking lot without trouble these days, let alone find a good safe place to have some fun without the wrong people finding you and killing it:mad:

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Bubba1 wrote:True, but race tracks have EMT's, fire trucks, rescue workers, they require helmets, all cars must pass a tech inspection,


i dunno what tracks you're at, but the dragstrip here has EMT's and no more of a tech inspection than signing your tech card and wiggling your battery around. and helmets are only required for cars running certain times.

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Well, congratulations on missing the point. And the point is that Drag strips are in a controlled environment, streets are not. Unfortunately most street racers will remain stupid until they crash into a bystander or have someone they care about get hurt/killed by a street racer in order to realize how stupid and reckless they are.

For the record, the last drag strip I went to was Englishtown several years ago and helmets/tech inspections were required. And they had an ambulance, EMTs' and a fire truck all there.

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its hard for a beginer drifter to learn how to become better. theres no damn place safe to practice. how do most pro drifters practice?

the closest track to me is about 45 mins away and they're only holding 2 drift practices this year. i went to the NCDA drift event but that was 3 hours away. i don't mind paying for a day at the track but its just that nothing's hardley ever goin on for drift events where you can learn and have instructors there to give advice.

i used to street race a lot. but only at night on roads where no one would come thru. but redlining each gear in a straight line gets boring real quick, at least for me.

now i just stick to mountain roads and just work on grip driving, no driftin though, i don't feel like smashin my car in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone service and wondering if someone will stop to help.

street racing is overrated. you're not gonna lose control going in a straight line. know your car and its limits and have control when driving.

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omg this thread wont die but my opinions yes the track is fine but seriously why drive over an hour pay 15-20 bucks to run like 4 times. I dont mind goin to the track every now an then. Its only open some days of the week an you can street race anytime any day. Street racing is fine as long as everyone involved are responsible. Yes there are unfortunate accidents, sh*t happens. One person dies from a whole year of a street racing an they flip out when so many more people die from drunk driving. An the fines for street racing are pretty harsh already. Its just if your gonna do it do it responsible an dont put yourself in a bad situation. I can remeber the last time we were out at the races in tampa an i was in my friends car an we were hittin the top of second an this car pulled out in front of us we had to slam on our brakes an we didnt race for the rest of the nite due to stupid people being there.

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Bubba1 wrote:Well, congratulations on missing the point. And the point is that Drag strips are in a controlled environment, streets are not.


and apparently you missed mine... being the track is no more controlled than the street in 99% of cases.

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Supafly wrote:and apparently you missed mine... being the track is no more controlled than the street in 99% of cases.


I'm utterly bewildered. Why do we have speed limits? For no reason? My God! What if there's oil on the ground on the street and you're doing 100 mph? Wouldn't happen on the track because it gets cleaned up. How far is your vision at night on a deserted public road? Not too good. All it takes is something in your way. Once again, not an issue at the track. Even if one only one person died a year from street racing, is it worth the trade off? A life for entertainment that can be had safely and responsibly elsewhere? Actual statistics:

http://www.beaconnewspaper.com...shtml

"The number of fatal crashes nationwide attributed to street racing rose to 135 in 2002, from 72 the year before."

So it was 135 in 2002, is that worth it? You need to think this through. Going fast is dangerous, that's why we have tracks that minimize the risk involved with going fast. You are 100--or should I say 99--% wrong here.


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