Street or Track Series Coilovers.... Which should I get???

[rsmithdrift]

Ok, yes I searched. I found nothing refering to this.

I am desperately needing coils. My stock suspension is BLOWN. I finally have about $1,000 built up and am set on getting some Megans.

But I can get the track coils for the same price as the street coils. Which do I need???

I intend to street my car as a daily driver, but I also do drift competitions about 5-6 times/year. The roads around here SUCK HORRIBLY, but I don't care about ride quality one bit. I just want pure handling performance.

So that's where the meat of my question comes to play.... The streets around here are bouncy, meaning I should get softer coils to compensate, but I want the car to handle good when I go drifting... will the 12/10 track spring rate totally screw me over on the street or will it just be a comfort thing?? Alternately can the street coils handle the track?? Or does it even matter.... And yes I know about compression/rebound dampening and am very knowledgable about effects of different shocks

Thanks...... Flame shield ACTIVATE!!!

[Stripes]

i wouldn't get a spring rate higher than 8/6k if i were you. any decent set of coilovers will do you just fine for occasional drift events, there is no need to go all out on a daily driver with track suspension.personally, i just put a set of tein basics with pillow ball mounts on my daily driver and they feel incredible. whatever it is you end up getting i'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Modified by Touge' at 1:18 AM 4/29/2008

[smocan]

i'm not gonna ***** but there are def tons of threads on this...

Just get the streets, PERIOD.

you probably aren't even aware of how uncomfortable most coils are on the street, and tracks will be 20 times worse. The tracks are just stiffer, and stiffer doesn't mean better. Don't let the names confuse you, streets have normal japanese spring rates, the tracks are just ridiculously more stiff.

If you want pure handling performance, then don't get megans, get something else. Megans are fine for the street, but aren't what you would call performance coils.

[BMAR240SX]

Save more money quality pawns

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[smocan]

Save more money quality pawns

zer...01023

I can't even understand what your saying and you linked a reply to this thread...

just don't post.

[BMAR240SX]

Sorry i was pretty tired

zerothread/330359

[rsmithdrift]

^^ Well that makes more sense.... lol

I got the megan streets and I'm very impressed. My hands hurt like hell from installing them though... lol. I have the fronts lower by about half of what they came at and the rears as high as they go. And though I'm still not sure if it actually makes a difference I adjusted the dampening to 8 front 6 rear so the rear should be slightly stiffer. I doubt it makes a difference though, it's still pretty rough through downtown lol. Handles GREAT though. I'm happy.

[silnismo]

WHAT!?!

you have 1000$ to spend and you wanna get megens?!?!?!

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e1...cat=1 ^^ MAX auto coilovers will dominate megans any day. go as low as you want w/ crisp valving. STIFF ride, ideal for drifters.

do your self a favor and pick up a set up these.

[rsmithdrift]

To be honest I Keep getting happier about these. I guess they've "broken in" or something. I put about 400 miles of agressive mountian driving, downtown bumpy surface changing madness at 100mph, and some hang time on a few back roads I know about and now they feel perfect. They don't bounce at all. They absorb the bumps but stay solid as hell. It's amazing and exactly what I wanted. They drift nice too. I adjusted my ride height today and got my cars stance perfect. I have the same wheel clearance front and rear I lowered the front's 1/2 and inch beyond megan factory and raised the rear 1/2 and inch above megan factory. I'm at my perfect desired hieght. Now if only I had a LSD....

[smocan]

WHAT!?!

you have 1000$ to spend and you wanna get megens?!?!?!

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e1...cat=1 ^^ MAX auto coilovers will dominate megans any day. go as low as you want w/ crisp valving. STIFF ride, ideal for drifters.

do your self a favor and pick up a set up these.

Do you even have coilovers??

I personally don't prefer or like the pbm coils for anything that sees the street.

[BMAR240SX]

Lets see pic's? and new video's

[rsmithdrift]

Lets see pic's? and new video's

I have to wash the pollen off, and I'm waiting for it to rain again....

[rsmithdrift]

Well here's pics showing how much lower it is. I'm 1/2 in. lower than megan factory in front, 1/2 in. higher than megan factory in back.

My car in the driveway.... VERY DIRTY

front fender wheel gap:

rear fender wheel gap:

My car with old 4x4 suspension after a wax job

[danstachet]

i had a set of megan streets, and for the price they dont sound like a bad idea. But, all my local 240 buddies are running stance GR + coils and for only about 200 more they're of way higher quality. option of 9k and 7k springs and they just feel better than my megans ever did. so price difference compared to quality and comfort difference... stance ftw

[s13fOr_me]

Megan coilovers arent as bad as people make them seem. I know ALOT of people who run these coilovers in their track car in SoCal.

I got the streets but if i were to go back i'd choose track.

[smocan]

i had a set of megan streets, and for the price they dont sound like a bad idea. But, all my local 240 buddies are running stance GR + coils and for only about 200 more they're of way higher quality. option of 9k and 7k springs and they just feel better than my megans ever did. so price difference compared to quality and comfort difference... stance ftw

OMGzzz the crewzz aroundzz me hazz stance.... must listen to them.

Compare them with the same spring rates, guess what, barely noticeable. Most of this crap is in all your heads... they are still crappy coilovers.

[s13_maJiK]

i had a set of megan streets, and for the price they dont sound like a bad idea. But, all my local 240 buddies are running stance GR + coils and for only about 200 more they're of way higher quality. option of 9k and 7k springs and they just feel better than my megans ever did. so price difference compared to quality and comfort difference... stance ftw

Just ordered my GR+ Pro's yeasterday so i'll put them to the test to see how I like them

[danstachet]

OMGzzz the crewzz aroundzz me hazz stance.... must listen to them.

Compare them with the same spring rates, guess what, barely noticeable. Most of this crap is in all your heads... they are still crappy coilovers.

ok... they come with the same spring rate as the megans but with the option of 9/7's which are ALSO included... My buddy Tristan had the 8/6's on when he got them cuz he thought the 9/7's would be too stiff, and still with the same spring rate they were much nicer.Both sets are comparable in price so why not the stances? So... next time you should give some good advice or at least some valuable information before being a d!ck to someone who has.

[BallzDeep1.9L]

OMGzzz the crewzz aroundzz me hazz stance.... must listen to them

hi there.. im one of the guys in the "crewzz aroundzz him" that runs a stance GR+ kit

Quote »Compare them with the same spring rates, guess what, barely noticeable.[/quote]lol wow... anyways, ive ridden in cars with both, dans with the megans, and mine with the stances, there is a difference, afer driving both i like the stances a lot better, the handling, andeven on ride quality. even after i switched to the heavier 9k/7k setup from the 8k/6k the ride quality was still better, along with the handling

Quote »Most of this crap is in all your heads... they are still crappy coilovers. [/quote]yeah the fact that they come with another set of springs, all in my head.the mono-tubes inverted, the idea behind that is that they can take more lateral force, all in my head.

seriously though i wouldnt call the megans crappy by any means.. a lot of people use them, and are perfectly happy with them. just with my experience of driving both vehicles the stances are definately a beter choice.

though one companies coilovers that i do think are absolute trash IMHO are the KTS's, i have 2 friends who have those on there S13's and there cars ride like they are on cut springs no matter where you set the dampers and you are bouncing all over the place, absolute trash. plus the monotubes are smaller then the stance.

[smocan]

ok... they come with the same spring rate as the megans but with the option of 9/7's which are ALSO included... My buddy Tristan had the 8/6's on when he got them cuz he thought the 9/7's would be too stiff, and still with the same spring rate they were much nicer.Both sets are comparable in price so why not the stances? So... next time you should give some good advice or at least some valuable information before being a d!ck to someone who has.

How am I being a d!ck? relax their my little man. Obviously your not me, that was my opinion.

[smocan]

hi there.. im one of the guys in the "crewzz aroundzz him" that runs a stance GR+ kit

lol wow... anyways, ive ridden in cars with both, dans with the megans, and mine with the stances, there is a difference, afer driving both i like the stances a lot better, the handling, andeven on ride quality. even after i switched to the heavier 9k/7k setup from the 8k/6k the ride quality was still better, along with the handling

yeah the fact that they come with another set of springs, all in my head.the mono-tubes inverted, the idea behind that is that they can take more lateral force, all in my head.

seriously though i wouldnt call the megans crappy by any means.. a lot of people use them, and are perfectly happy with them. just with my experience of driving both vehicles the stances are definately a beter choice.

though one companies coilovers that i do think are absolute trash IMHO are the KTS's, i have 2 friends who have those on there S13's and there cars ride like they are on cut springs no matter where you set the dampers and you are bouncing all over the place, absolute trash. plus the monotubes are smaller then the stance.

No need to gang-bang me with an argument on the internet. Thats great you have an opinion, I had one too

You guys might want to read the thread... he obviously stated he doesn't care about ride comfort.... so quit whining about it.

[BallzDeep1.9L]

OMGzzz the crewzz aroundzz me hazz stance.... must listen to them.

i would say that would qualify you as being a d!ck, we all just returned the favor, there goes my opinion again, but dont worry.. you're forgiven, and now im done.. have a wonderful day

[smocan]

Haha... Thanks, Its great you have forgiven me, I'm glad that makes you feel better. Oh you have a wonderful day sir. This forum is so amusing.

[Bmxandcars]

How am I being a d!ck? relax their my little man. Obviously your not me, that was my opinion.

Turn their into there and you're good to go. Don't argue with bad grammar it makes you look dumm.

[brizanden]

Haha... Thanks, Its great you have forgiven me, I'm glad that makes you feel better. Oh you have a wonderful day sir. This forum is so amusing.

ok so u say dont buy stance they're crap too. What would u suggest, Seriously? I know the new craze is stance, but people who have done some "testing" say they are by no means bad just obviously not up to par with like Zeal and other really high end full racing struts.

[smocan]

Turn their into there and you're good to go. Don't argue with bad grammar it makes you look dumm.

Yeah, you really shouldn't argue with bad grammar, it makes you look DUMB ... wow, thats your best response and you can't even spell dumb? Mature.

ok so u say dont buy stance they're crap too. What would u suggest, Seriously? I know the new craze is stance, but people who have done some "testing" say they are by no means bad just obviously not up to par with like Zeal and other really high end full racing struts.

Hes asking about coilovers for street and some track use and does NOT care about ride. Well, megan streets are his answer, dependable with a good price. Why spend more for an arguable ride comfort improvement if he doesn't want it?

When I say crap, they are, but that is the standard so its considered OK in this community, hell I had megans and stance, they both are comparable, so take the cheaper. I don't take sides on anything. Get stance if you want them, who am I to tell you what to get. I can just voice my opinion, which these little kids like to argue about it over the internet.

If I got any coilover in the 900-1200 range, I'd probably get the Endura-tech. I'm convinced those things are made better than anything else in that price range. Just look at their design and you'll understand. AZhitman has them, ask him how they feel.

Recommend: Properly valved Konis and ground controls with matching spring rates are an EXCELLENT setup and are worth every penny.

This forum is a joke these days, and people wonder why I sold my 240. Bmzandcars.... HA, you made my day.


Modified by smocan at 7:22 PM 5/19/2008