Stillen RSB?

[Ferguson]

Stillen lists one sway bar size for the coupes and sedans... but the stock bars are very different in size depending on whether you have the 3.5SE package or not. The standard bar is about .68" and the 3.5SE bar is about .72". The Stillen bar is .75". Unless there is some huge difference in material, it doesn't seem like much of a gain to replace the 3.5SE bar. I also have the Eibach springs. I wonder if someone with a 3.5SE (or Stillen!) can enlighten me. Thanks!

[08altima35]

i first purchased endlinks and felt little to no difference in handling or body roll, but when I installed my stillen RSB is was sweet success. The car still rolls a little, but the improvement is night and day.

[One Crazy Max]

i think when im ready, im gonna buy the progress rear sway bar from the 02-06 altimas, and fit it up to my sedan. i have the racingline endlinks.

now you might be thinking that it probably wont fit since i have an 07 sedan, and the bar is from a 3rd gen. the difference between the stock RSB's from both cars is the mounting angle to attach to the endlink, thats it. but since i have the racingline endlinks the angle can be adjusted to fit the 3rd gen bar.

btw, if i were you guys, and you have the racingline endlinks, and you want much less lean than the stillen bar (not to downplay it at all) i would go for the progress bar.

stock 3.5SE - 18mm (hollow)stillen - 19mm (solid)progress - 22mm (solid)

and the price for both of them are not that far apart from each other.

thats 3mm bigger than the stillen = big difference.

the only reason the progress bar will not fit up directly to the stock endlinks is because it was made specifically to mount up to 02-06 stock endlinks and also the two bars a very slightly different in shape, likewise for the stillen RSB for the 07+


Modified by One Crazy Max at 6:47 PM 12/18/2008

[LongBeachCoupe]

I have a 2.5... but TRUST me when i tell you the RSB makes a SIGNIFICANT difference...

I dont know the numbers angle of it well, stillen can chime in there, but the difference is MORE than noticeable while driving.

[One Crazy Max]

you guys should really check out what i posted, itll stiffen up the rear even more than the stillen

[mrodrig2]

the difference between the stock RSB's from both cars is the mounting angle to attach to the endlink, thats it.

The mounting angle that you are so easily dismissing is set as it is to balance optimum positioning of the swaybar (which depends on the shape of the bar) with the amount of loading you are applying on the endlink and bushings while the car is at rest.

Just because you can adjust an endlink to make a bar fit this application does not mean that it will be oriented properly to do its job. Improper installation may additionally lead to binding your endlink bushings.

[ItsEcko06]

I have a 2.5... but TRUST me when i tell you the RSB makes a SIGNIFICANT difference...

I dont know the numbers angle of it well, stillen can chime in there, but the difference is MORE than noticeable while driving.

the 2.5s to the 3.5s is like the forgotten stepchild that gets the less beefier stuff. but i understand that the 2.5s was made to be a little more affordable which is how i ended up getting it! i think the upgrades make all the difference for 2.5s so i'm glad i'm gonna work on putting the stabilizer bar, f/r endlinks, and front strut. just waiting for endlink GB!!!

[Ferguson]

I went with the Stillen bar and Racingline end links. Thanks all for the input.

[One Crazy Max]

The mounting angle that you are so easily dismissing is set as it is to balance optimum positioning of the swaybar (which depends on the shape of the bar) with the amount of loading you are applying on the endlink and bushings while the car is at rest.

Just because you can adjust an endlink to make a bar fit this application does not mean that it will be oriented properly to do its job. Improper installation may additionally lead to binding your endlink bushings.

looks like im just gonna have to try this on my own. i dont really see what all your fuss is about. if you honestly think that it wont work then so be it, i have proven nay-sayers wrong many times, this one will just take some time.

[mrodrig2]

You should by all means go ahead and try it.

I'm not arguing about whether you can get the bar to fit in there and im not saying that it will stop working or anything like that. I just wanted to point out that there are more consequences to the bar orientation than you may think (based off your statement that the only difference is mounting). To more clearly illustrate what I was saying is:

If you envision the sway bar as a "C" that is parallel to the ground with the two endpoints facing one end of the car and the endlinks attached to those points being perpendicular to the bar (an ideal installation). You can clearly imagine the C-shape flexing open and closed properly along the parallel ground plane and the movement being taken up by the Heim joint on the endlink. Now, offset that C so that its not parallel to the ground, like you may have to do to get the bigger bar to fit, and you can see that the endlink is no longer perpendicular to the bar. Because its being pushed out by the bar, its loaded even if the car's at rest. Also because the joint is now starting offset rather than at the center of the range, it has less freedom of movement which is potentially bad for the bushings.

[Beak]

what psi are you running in your tires?? with the sway bar and drop kit installed.