Stillen / Racingline STB comparison?

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I'm terribly sorry if this has been covered I just searched through over 10 pages of the suspension and A/C threads and spent like 20minutes trying to find something with the search feature...

Anyways, I was wondering why the steep difference in price for the Strut Tower Brace between the two companies, I've heard good things about both but was wondering why Stillen is charging approx. $100 more ???

Any quick response would be super helpful considering I am making the purchase THIS week


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The difference, I believe, is the material being used. Just look for the original threads where the two were introduced for more info on the specifics.

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I tried to figure out the same thing before I bought the RacingLine STB. The general consensus from the responses I got was that both are good quality, stiff bars and will do about the same job. I think the price difference comes down to cost of materials, so the only question left is if you like the look of the Stillen bar $100 more than the Racingline bar.

BTW I was surprised at how much it improved the handling of the car.

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I believe it was the process that Stillen uses to make their bar. The milling of the aluminum I believe.

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Alt.ImaCoupe wrote:I tried to figure out the same thing before I bought the RacingLine STB. The general consensus from the responses I got was that both are good quality, stiff bars and will do about the same job. I think the price difference comes down to cost of materials, so the only question left is if you like the look of the Stillen bar $100 more than the Racingline bar.

BTW I was surprised at how much it improved the handling of the car.
does it really improve it noticibly? because I was under the impression that the chassis was already really stiff and able to cope with the lateral Gs since it's an all new platform for the coupe. does it make the car vibrate more since there is less flex?

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mcheddadi wrote:
does it really improve it noticibly? because I was under the impression that the chassis was already really stiff and able to cope with the lateral Gs since it's an all new platform for the coupe. does it make the car vibrate more since there is less flex?
yeah, I just don't know about this strut bar business. I don't know how some people are saying that it almost completely nulls out body roll...... I just dont see that happening.

With that said, I will probably be getting one anyways just to be cool I hope I am wrong and that it does do something noticeable though

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I have Racingline endlinks + strut bar, but I don't see any difference. However, I think the Stillen is thicker and stiffer than Racingline. It's just my opinion

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legend_217 wrote:I have Racingline endlinks + strut bar, but I don't see any difference. However, I think the Stillen is thicker and stiffer than Racingline. It's just my opinion
I dont see how you can NOT feel a difference from the STB (stillen OR racingline)

I personally have the racingline and was part of the prototype group...

The way I can describe it is that the car's body is WITH the steering wheel rather than FOLLOWING the steering wheel... Its hard to explain to a certain extent other than saying it "reduces body roll" but its not something you will feel on straight road.

When you get to an exit/entrance ramp (something that has a nice curve to it) you will realize EXACTLY what the STB is all about... If any of you NY area guys wanna see it in action just email me or come out to a meet for a demonstration!

As far as bang for buck, this is one of my favorite additions to the coupe.

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maybe I don't make a really hard turn

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Turns may not be the right word... CURVES is where it counts...

We will see the difference at Carlisle with the autocross slaloms

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Thanks for the feedback, I would love to stay Stillen on this one since they have been wonderful to our community, and it hurts me more thinking that I am picking a product over them because the product is cheaper (in price not meaning to offend anybody).

I love those curvy off ramps so when I get it I will definitely chime in and see if I notice any difference. Might take a while though because my front driver side tire is completely bald and I am afraid it's going to blow everytime I start driving aggressively.

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ima go with the whole brand thing...stillen has a bigger brand thus probably is charging more becus of that versus racingline still small

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saywat wrote:ima go with the whole brand thing...stillen has a bigger brand thus probably is charging more becus of that versus racingline still small
stillen is charging more because of the quality of the material. thats all. they each explained it in the original thread about each product

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mcheddadi wrote:
stillen is charging more because of the quality of the material. thats all. they each explained it in the original thread about each product
so ur saying brand has absolutely nothing to do with it?

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Stillen has been wonderful to us. Sells us excellent (EXCELLENT) quality parts for a decent understandable price. I mean this is the one price that I thought was a little out there but they have cause for it.

Stillen has a wonderful name because in my eyes, they earned it.

Enough with the kiss a$s can I have a sponsorship now ???

Just Kidding (kind of)

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as already mentioned, the process of making the bar and the aircraft grade aluminum used in Stillen's bar is why there's is more expensive. I have racingline's, and was also part of the prototype group. Tp be honest, I could have gone with either, but I liked the black bar the racingline offers.

I was actually shocked at how stiff racingline's bar was... not that I expected it to be cheap or anything, but this thing is high qualiy stuff. Definately one the best bang for you buck additions to the coupe egarding handling.

Oh yeah, and anyone that says they can't feel a difference in handling after a strut tower brace upgrade just MUST not do any spitited driving, and must have a stright drive to and from work everyday with no curves, corners, or slants.

With the stru tower brace, you won't "lean when you turn" as much as with the stock setup. And the strut tower brace + STILLEN rear sway bar upgrade.. diffeence in handling is night and day!

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Rear suspension will start after my front end is done. I'm hoping for a decent upgrade from the STB.

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Well I just installed the RacingLine STB yesterday thanks to MichaelthePsycho, and my brother for actually doing the work.

It feels great, definitely improved handling but can't go as far as to say night/day. And this was all on city driving, Hopefully soon we can take another canyon run and feel the difference, I serioiusly need new tires now

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Rob.Vegan wrote:Well I just installed the RacingLine STB yesterday thanks to MichaelthePsycho, and my brother for actually doing the work.

It feels great, definitely improved handling but can't go as far as to say night/day. And this was all on city driving, Hopefully soon we can take another canyon run and feel the difference, I serioiusly need new tires now
nope, I agree.. night and day improvement for me didn't happen until I added the rear sway bar upgrade with the STB!

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No more canyon runs until I get my racingline endlinks and get them installed. If you going to test out your new addition, so am I!
Rob.Vegan wrote:Well I just installed the RacingLine STB yesterday thanks to MichaelthePsycho, and my brother for actually doing the work.

It feels great, definitely improved handling but can't go as far as to say night/day. And this was all on city driving, Hopefully soon we can take another canyon run and feel the difference, I serioiusly need new tires now

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:
nope, I agree.. night and day improvement for me didn't happen until I added the rear sway bar upgrade with the STB!
I'm looking forward to improving the rear but it's going to have to wait, I have other mods prioritized in the meantime.
BlackNWhite wrote:No more canyon runs until I get my racingline endlinks and get them installed. If you going to test out your new addition, so am I!
Well I need to wait until the rims/tires head my way (April/May) to fully test this thing out because even driving a little more aggressive in the city is making my wheels howl like crazy


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