Stillen Gen 3 intake..

[LuckyLuke]

Should I upgrade my g with Stillen Gen 3 intake? anyone has any experience with it?

[G_whizz]

Do you have an aftermarket intake now?? If you do, you REALLY won't notice much of a difference if you swap one aftermarket for another.

I personally am a fan of JWT.

[LuckyLuke]

Do you have an aftermarket intake now?? If you do, you REALLY won't notice much of a difference if you swap one aftermarket for another.

I personally am a fan of JWT.

Nope, just a stock one..

[CYO44Baseball32]

Yes do it, its the best G37 intake available

[tollboothwilley]

+1

[LuckyLuke]

Does it void your warranty if you replace the intake?

[G_whizz]

No. They have to prove (somewhat) that the mod in question damaged the malfunctioning part.

[LuckyLuke]

After doing some research. I found that you lose power at low RPM but gain on the higher RPM w/ aftermarket intake. Is it really worth it? Seem like you're just upgrading for the sound.

Injen, JWT, Stillen..... which one is better?

[CYO44Baseball32]

Yo bro just get the Gen3 intake, best intake there is for the g37..in process now of getting one once I get enough cash after I buy my spray

[suby01]

i have the stillen longtube gen2..id say get that instead of the 3.

first i got the gen 1 stilen then when the gen 2 came out and i got that one there was a difference in power. now with new one, im not even interested in it because you have to fabricate a few things to make it fit.

and also im not too sure about the filters being right there in the grill wtih powerwashing the car and rain and everything. stillen claims wont effect anything. but thats something that its definetly stopping me from that upgrade. hope that helps.

[Sentientbydesign]

i have the stillen longtube gen2..id say get that instead of the 3.

first i got the gen 1 stilen then when the gen 2 came out and i got that one there was a difference in power. now with new one, im not even interested in it because you have to fabricate a few things to make it fit.

and also im not too sure about the filters being right there in the grill wtih powerwashing the car and rain and everything. stillen claims wont effect anything. but thats something that its definetly stopping me from that upgrade. hope that helps.

I've seen the Stillen G37 intake that sits in front of the radiator. Having to cut holes in order to install it was STUPID on their part. Anyways, the filters have rain shield IIRC.

[kyle@stillen]

I've seen the Stillen G37 intake that sits in front of the radiator. Having to cut holes in order to install it was STUPID on their part. Anyways, the filters have rain shield IIRC.

How else would you suggest routing the piping to get the air from that exact location?

It is extremely important to pull the air from that location as there are many different factors that come into play.

1) Air temperature. It is a well known fact that the air temperature closest to the ground is higher than the air temperature away from the ground. Therefore we chose to keep the filters up as high as possible.

2) Hydro-lock concerns. With the filters mounted this high off the ground it greatly reduces the chances of sucking water into the intake tubes.

3) Testing. This one is really the most important. We tested well over 50 different designs and configurations to come up with this exact setup. We spent over six months working on this intake alone. The result of that testing was the best performing intake on the market for the 3.7 liter engine.

Some might say, well just run smaller pipe through the front core support so that you don't need to trim anything. That sounds like a good idea and it would have made things easier for us however it would have caused a restriction in the airflow and therefore caused a loss in power.

I usually don't call out individual members however I find it odd that this is not the first time I have seen you trash talking this intake. Also, as a moderator or "articles manager" I would expect that you would hold yourself to a higher standard and offer only factual information to benefit the community. Saying that a manufacturer's design is "stupid" without understanding the logic or testing that went into the development is not something I would typically expect from a person in your position.

[kyle@stillen]

Do you have an aftermarket intake now?? If you do, you REALLY won't notice much of a difference if you swap one aftermarket for another.

I personally am a fan of JWT.

On almost every other application I would generally agree with you. For the most part the after market intakes are going to be within a few horsepower of each other and it is difficult to feel that extra few HP and the money spent to upgrade would more than likely not be worth it.

However, in the case of the G37 it has been proven that the STILLEN intake produces SUBSTANTIALLY more power than any other aftermarket intake on the market.

With that being said...JWT makes a great product and just like STILLEN they are die-hard NISSAN fans

[Sentientbydesign]

Sorry, Kyle. I and a large group of G and Z owners were all amazed and confused at why Stillen would put out an intake that required that much work to get it installed. Mind you, we were at a well known performance shop.

And despite the general tone of my post, I was actually trying to HELP you guys in reassuring poster that there wasn't much need for concern regarding the filter getting wet.

Also, was hydrolock really that big of a worry? Why? Who drives their G in knee deep water? I would think that the car would suffer a lot of other issues if driven in that much water before hydrolock was even an issue.

[kyle@stillen]

When ever we develop a new product we always look at all of the potential pros and cons as well as the potential failure points. Basically, if we do this, what might happen in a worst case scenario.

In the case of a performance air intake like the Gen. 3 we definitely considered hydro lock to be a potential problem. As you have seen this past week California has experienced extremely unusual weather conditions. We may not be driving our lowered sports cars in knee high water but we're still commuting to work. I'm sure you've been to STILLEN before and you probably remember the intersection of Paularino and Redhill. That intersection (along with the thousands just like it around the world) was built with a huge valley in the middle that floods when it rains hard.

Imagine you're driving in the rain to a friends house and you've never been there before. You come up to an intersection that has flooded and you have no idea how deep it is because you don't know what that intersection normally looks like. You think to yourself "it can't be THAT deep, the city is responsible for drainage right?"

Well, that's not a chance we're willing to take. To ensure that our customer's won't have to deal with it we mounted the filters as high as possible and we utilize the poly-urethane shield to protect the filters from water, bugs, or rocks, or any other debris which could potentially damage the filters.

We would have preferred to leave the core support without having to be cut but it would have restricted the performance of the intake and that was not a sacrifice we were willing to make.

[G_whizz]

On almost every other application I would generally agree with you. For the most part the after market intakes are going to be within a few horsepower of each other and it is difficult to feel that extra few HP and the money spent to upgrade would more than likely not be worth it.

However, in the case of the G37 it has been proven that the STILLEN intake produces SUBSTANTIALLY more power than any other aftermarket intake on the market.

With that being said...JWT makes a great product and just like STILLEN they are die-hard NISSAN fans

If I had a G37...I would probably go with Stillen filters based on my own research. I do have a Stillen exhaust and love it though! Well...aside from some slight rust on the tips...

You should pop on a little more and chat with the members Kyle! Maybe throw us a tidbit of info every now and then

[joe603]

If I had a G37...I would probably go with Stillen filters based on my own research. I do have a Stillen exhaust and love it though! Well...aside from some slight rust on the tips...

You should pop on a little more and chat with the members Kyle! Maybe throw us a tidbit of info every now and then

Same here on my 05. I have the TD Stillen exhaust and my tips have rust and the stillen logo is about gone. It's the only complaint I have with the exhaust. I wish I went with the Stillen intake, but the JWT was less expensive for the same performance results.

[tollboothwilley]

I wish Stillen would sell the Air Intake box seperately. I think its a good addition to any aftermarket intake.

[kyle@stillen]

If I had a G37...I would probably go with Stillen filters based on my own research. I do have a Stillen exhaust and love it though! Well...aside from some slight rust on the tips...

You should pop on a little more and chat with the members Kyle! Maybe throw us a tidbit of info every now and then

Look at my post count!!! I'm on here too much as it is hahaha...

Actually I spend most of my time in the Altima section. One of the guys here, Josh, has an 04 G coupe and he's been spending a little bit of time in the G section. We would love to spend more time over here and offer up more info on our parts.

[G_whizz]

Look at my post count!!! I'm on here too much as it is hahaha...

Actually I spend most of my time in the Altima section. One of the guys here, Josh, has an 04 G coupe and he's been spending a little bit of time in the G section. We would love to spend more time over here and offer up more info on our parts.

It would be great to see you in the G section more! The modding community has grown! More and more "younger" members are purchasing G's since the introduction of the G37 because G35 are more affordable now.

So I look forward to seeing you around here!

BTW...you can never have too many posts... gotta get your daily dose of NICOtine...

[pfarmer]

Sorry, Kyle. I and a large group of G and Z owners were all amazed and confused at why Stillen would put out an intake that required that much work to get it installed. Mind you, we were at a well known performance shop.

And despite the general tone of my post, I was actually trying to HELP you guys in reassuring poster that there wasn't much need for concern regarding the filter getting wet.

Also, was hydrolock really that big of a worry? Why? Who drives their G in knee deep water? I would think that the car would suffer a lot of other issues if driven in that much water before hydrolock was even an issue.

Actually in my area it could be a major concern, the last thing you want to do is stall out in such a situation. In December of 2007 was my last time I ran into some serious water. I was at work in Centralia, Wash. when they told everyone that was non-essential at the time to go home. I took what i though would be the best route knowing what was occuring everywhere else. Near the new Great Wolf Lodge in Grand Mound on the road that runsparallel to I5 I ran into about 1 to 1 1/2 foot of water in my 300 m. This was unexpected in this location howeve because of some issues with water drainage and dykes breaking etc. water was rising visibly as I was driving through it with traffic right on my tail, in fact the car behind me didn't make it through from what I could tell since I entered the mess with him behind me and when I exited about two blocks later he was nowhere to be seen.

If I would have stalled, the car for all practical purposes probably would have been lost or I wish it would have been in any case. Hydro locking is a major concern in some areas. I had another car that almost stalled in even less water, started with an 'HO" which took its intake from the fender well as it was easy to get water in the intake.

In 1996 on the way to work my car almost became a submarine. I ran into water behind my supervisor. I though I was ok in my bigger Plymouth since he was in a Celica. Problem was I did not realize at the time he was floating. I nearly made it out when something shorted out. It turned out it was a good thing since I had water right at the snarkle of the V8. I continued to use the car for another 30 K before loosing the rear end at 315k miles. It did cost me a new starter, a new alternator, wheel bearings, and probably the rear end.

Up high is good when it comes to air filter location.

Perry

[pfarmer]

In the case of a performance air intake like the Gen. 3 we definitely considered hydro lock to be a potential problem. As you have seen this past week California has experienced extremely unusual weather conditions. We may not be driving our lowered sports cars in knee high water but we're still commuting to work. I'm sure you've been to STILLEN before and you probably remember the intersection of Paularino and Redhill. That intersection (along with the thousands just like it around the world) was built with a huge valley in the middle that floods when it rains hard.

Another issue is also that water that is only 6 inches high becomes a lot higher when the bozzo in the giant pickup wizzes through at 30 mph.

With the 1996 100 year flood (which reoccurred in 2007 and 2008) one of the biggest problems facing many was waves caused by big trucks. I took many calls at work due to contractors running their large ash hauling trucks at higher than necessary speeds through water causing garages to flood due to the wake.

Perry

[rmezz13]

When ever we develop a new product we always look at all of the potential pros and cons as well as the potential failure points. Basically, if we do this, what might happen in a worst case scenario.

In the case of a performance air intake like the Gen. 3 we definitely considered hydro lock to be a potential problem. As you have seen this past week California has experienced extremely unusual weather conditions. We may not be driving our lowered sports cars in knee high water but we're still commuting to work. I'm sure you've been to STILLEN before and you probably remember the intersection of Paularino and Redhill. That intersection (along with the thousands just like it around the world) was built with a huge valley in the middle that floods when it rains hard.

Imagine you're driving in the rain to a friends house and you've never been there before. You come up to an intersection that has flooded and you have no idea how deep it is because you don't know what that intersection normally looks like. You think to yourself "it can't be THAT deep, the city is responsible for drainage right?"

Well, that's not a chance we're willing to take. To ensure that our customer's won't have to deal with it we mounted the filters as high as possible and we utilize the poly-urethane shield to protect the filters from water, bugs, or rocks, or any other debris which could potentially damage the filters.

We would have preferred to leave the core support without having to be cut but it would have restricted the performance of the intake and that was not a sacrifice we were willing to make.

sounds to me like you guys know exactly what you're doing, and who would doubt it being one of the leading aftermarket companies for Nissan/Infiniti for years, and years, and years, and years...

There is fab work in many many after market kits, especial Turbo and SC kits. Nitrous there is fab work.... If it wasn't necessary for top performance than it probably isn't a top name.

[SteveTheTech]

I would jump at an opportunity to see your place in person. I have always been a Stillen fan and have installed many products of theirs on other peoples cars I have yet to find something for any of the cars I have owned.

These intakes for the 37 are awesome IMO. I have seen a 37 with them at work and the design (although difficult to install to some)is perfect for this car they make use of a good initial design lay out with what is normally dead space. The deflector mounted on the front support that directs oncoming liquid or debris away from the air filters should solve most weather, and geographical concerns. For most people that would never really be an issue and for others they may want to think about getting a second foul weather car or not getting this mod.

Of the aftermarket companies out there the guys at Stillen seems to do their homework and the fact that Kyle@Stillen is here interacting with the members is a great way to do business and shows they support their products. That is customer service that very few companies are willing to do anymore. In a highly competitive market like that of automotive performance getting the edge on research and support establishes a positive reputation that is invaluable.

Keep up the good work

[kyle@stillen]

Thanks for all the positive feedback guys, we really appreciate it!

We are working on developing a "tour of STILLEN" for our website and blog. The only problem we're having is condensing everything we do into a 4 or 5 minute video.

By the way...You guys should check out our blog soon for updates on the progress of our GTR rally car build. It's starting to shape up nicely and that thing is going to be INSANE!!!

[4drmadness]

Kyle, if u need to do any testing on a 04 At g35 sedan, let me know. I live in newport beach, and would love to help out. Btw i love the stillen gen 2 catback exhaust. its amazing

[Jacko3]

Hey Kyle:

Stillen catback exhaust with any test pipes, is the most beautiful sound ever, ever made for a car. I love it. I get harrassed by cops routinely when they hear that sweet sweet stillen sound, when I gun the car. It is totally intoxicating. The exahiaust is loud under WOT and yet so quite when cruising. Excellent!