Stiffer clutch pedel

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XcreatureX
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Ok heres my question. i came from a WRX to the 240, the WRX i thought had a really nice feeling to the pedel and i was woundering if there is a way to make my 240s pedel stiffer....i have a new clutch in there and i though that may have helped(not the reason i changed it but a sub thought lol) anyways anyone have any ideas...btw the clutch i have in there is a ACT extream or something like that...its the one with 6 pucks and no springs thanks

Seth


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Jookmasta
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what kind of clutch was in the WRX???? if u do want to make it stiffer, u can adjust the pedal somewhat. as for the details, someone else will need to chime in or check the fsm.........

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My RPS-MAX pressure plate made it anywhere from 50-100% stiffer... Put it this way... It will make you're leg tired at a long stop light.

Its a great clutch for street... Holds the power and can still drive in traffic for over an hr every day. I like the stiff clutch so its great for me... The 240 clutch was always to soft.

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XcreatureX
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WRX clutch was stock, and when i got the new clutch it said it would make it 50% stiffer but it didnt make it at all...and that clutch is good up to 450lbs torque and isnt very much fun in traffic hahaha...i like having presure in the pedel stock it feels like it fast to the floor its easy but i dont like it

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Dunno, the 240SX clutch in stock form was always the stiffest clutch of any other car I've been in, including Maximas, Sentras, DSMs, Hondas, etc.Can't wait to feel it with a nice 6 puck.

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You can remove the damper box for a more direct feel. http://www.zeroyon.com has a how to on it. Stiffness, IDK what to tell you. Unless you have the funding to expirment, you'll just have to get used to it.

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Clutch pedal stiffness is affected by the overall leverage in the system. The lever arm ratio of the pedal to teh master cylnder, the ratio betwen the mc and slave cylinder, the clutch actuation arm between the slave cylinder and the throwout bearing and sleev, and finally the leverage of the splines on the flywheel vs the spring rate of the flywheel itself. The only way to change it is to change one of these factors. A stiffer pressure plate will obviously add pedal stiffness. Changing the fulcrum of the splines on the pressure plate is a potential method but would likley need to be addressed on the manufacturer's end. Changing the pedal or clutch lever arm on the bellhousing are probably not reasonably viable options. You might try experimenting with different diameter clutch master cylinders and slave cylinders if there are any compatible units that would bolt up and offer a different size(akin to using a 300ZX Brake MC with 300ZX brakes). The ACT does use a stiffer plate, but it offsets this by allowing more leverage in the pressure plate as well. This way you end up with a stock-like pedal stiffness. You are probably just used to the stiffer feel. Given some time, you'll adjust. Most prefer a lighter pedal since it is much easier to modulate. You certainly want some resistance, but too much can make driving uncomfortable. Also, ending up with a similar pedal stiffness means the load on all the factory parts will be similar. So you don't end up with excess wear to the throwout bearing or the master and slave cylinders.

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XcreatureX
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yeah i dont nkow i have had it in since start of aug and still not really use to it...i guess i just like the way the WRX's felt oh well its not the end of the world

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thats weird, your the only person who says the stock 240 clutch is not stiff. then again mine was stiff as hell. ( mine is a stiff as a stock EVO clutch ) but i've also driven other stock 240's with soft *** clutches which is weird.

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you could install a hard clutch line and bypass the factory clutch softening/bleed box (it's a stainless steel line that replaces the stock rubber crap and goes straight from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder). It would improve your pedal pressure and at 80$ is a hell of a lot less expensive than a new clutch. JMHO.

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that line that boost designs sells goes all the way from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder. what you want is a much shorter (cheaper) line that SPL parts (splparts.com) sells for $20. there is no need for such a long line unless doing a auto-manual swap considering the SPL line attaches to hardlines anyway. i have one installed and i suppose it helped clutch feel a bit but it also got rid of the dampener box which can make bleeding the clutch system a pain.

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XcreatureX
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i think ill try the clutch line, see if that does anything????if not 20 bucks and i got some bling??? hehe

Seth


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