Steve Jobs died

[Heavy]

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hmm, so now what?

[Solar_Runner]

Wow, I guess I shouldn't be surprised with his illnesses... but still, he was just 56.

[szh]

Apple will continue as normal, I expect.

His particular vision may not be there, but there are others who have taken up that mantle.

Z

[AppleBonker]

While I'm not a fan of a lot of what Apple has done recently, Jobs was a visionary and pushed the entire industry forward. He will be deeply missed. May he rest in peace and my thoughts go out to his family and close friends.

[sbird1]

Bye Steve, you greedy, money grubbing jerk. Thank you for making me look and feel cooler than I actually am.

[flohtingPoint]

On one hand, RIP Steve. On the other, hopefully Apple will stop making operating systems for total morons.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Anyone else think that Bill Gates is doing back flips and crying at the same time? The two of them were arch rivals and yet really close at the same time. Wonder what will happen now that Bill doesn't have anyone to compete with anymore.

[hitbychance]

Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn’t matter to me … Going to bed at night saying we’ve done something wonderful… that’s what matters to me.

- Steve Jobs

RIP

[flohtingPoint]

Anyone else think that Bill Gates is doing back flips and crying at the same time? The two of them were arch rivals and yet really close at the same time. Wonder what will happen now that Bill doesn't have anyone to compete with anymore.

No back flips. Do some research, Microsoft bailed out Apple before their iCrap phase, back before Apple made products for folks with down syndrome.

[dasoupdude]

back before Apple made products for folks with down syndrome.

My cousin suffers from down's syndrome and he is capable of using a windows os.

[flohtingPoint]

back before Apple made products for folks with down syndrome.

My cousin suffers from down's syndrome and he is capable of using a windows os.

Watching a movie/using ms paint and working with are two totally different entities. Apple OS' is designed for the dumbest of the dumb to function. 99% of the population will know how to work an iPos but couldn't tell you what Powershell or the schema is. I look at the iPad I have and it feels like an insult to the intelligence of the modern man.

[dasoupdude]

99% of the population will know how to work an iPos but couldn't tell you what Powershell or the schema is. I look at the iPad I have and it feels like an insult to the intelligence of the modern man.

Thats all relative though imo. Not just with stuff like computers

[krash]

99% of the population will know how to work an iPos but couldn't tell you what Powershell or the schema is. I look at the iPad I have and it feels like an insult to the intelligence of the modern man.

Thats all relative though imo. Not just with stuff like computers

Yea your argument is pretty one sided there.....

RIP Steve Jobs. He had so much fame and money, but dies at the age of 56, pretty sad.

Wonder what will happen now that Bill doesn't have anyone to compete with anymore.

He's barely giving Microsoft his time these days, so I doubt he's in a dilemma. Either way, Tim Cook is apparently a good replacement for Jobs. We'll see how he does in the next keynote.

However, Gates does miss his ol' rival:

Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives.

The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come.

For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it's been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely.

[Jesda]

Watching a movie/using ms paint and working with are two totally different entities. Apple OS' is designed for the dumbest of the dumb to function. 99% of the population will know how to work an iPos but couldn't tell you what Powershell or the schema is. I look at the iPad I have and it feels like an insult to the intelligence of the modern man.

So, because you're capable of using Windows, you feel intelligent?

People who drove Model Ts with 20 levels and knobs were all geniuses!


Logic, how does it work? Apple also makes more than one OS, and more than two.

[Jesda]

No back flips. Do some research, Microsoft bailed out Apple before their iCrap phase, back before Apple made products for folks with down syndrome.

"Do some research"

Microsoft received non-voting stock as a gesture of confidence to investors. The amount of money invested was a drop in the bucket and far from sufficient to save Apple from bankruptcy in the late 90s. In return, Microsoft made quite a chunk of change on Mac Office and the value of Microsoft's shares skyrocketed. When Apple was looking to be acquired, its primary suitors were IBM and Sun, NOT Microsoft.

I'm not a big fan of the Steve Jobs eras of Apple. I prefer the 90s when they tinkered with innovative gadgets (but lacked the ability to sell them to the public). You appear to have an axe to grind, and its making you crazy in the process.

[danshaz82]

Steve Jobs died. I can no longer taste or smell things. Music brings me no joy, and I have become colorblind. My life is devoid of meaning. I can't maintain an erectlon for longer than 15 seconds at a time.

Goodnight sweet prince.

[MellowZ32]

iCaramba!

[flohtingPoint]

Watching a movie/using ms paint and working with are two totally different entities. Apple OS' is designed for the dumbest of the dumb to function. 99% of the population will know how to work an iPos but couldn't tell you what Powershell or the schema is. I look at the iPad I have and it feels like an insult to the intelligence of the modern man.

So, because you're capable of using Windows, you feel intelligent?

People who drove Model Ts with 20 levels and knobs were all geniuses!


Logic, how does it work? Apple also makes more than one OS, and more than two.

Me? No. My job takes place at OSI layers 1-5. I'm a network engineer, we dont tinker with operating systems of that nature. However, the Senior Systems Administrators that I worked with while setting up networks in Iraq/Afghanistan, configuring Active Directory for our forward deployed sites, now they worked with windows. Oddly enough, I didn't see a single piece of Crapple there, regardless of the more than one or two operating systems they make. Wonder why...

This is not to say that Apple doesn't have it's place. It's great, if you're a mid 20's douchebag sitting in Starbucks and scripting your memoirs, or making more s*** movies. Windows powers the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of... I think you see a pattern here. Now I'm not saying this is a shortcoming of Apple, far from it in fact, it's a design. I return to my initial statement of Apple making operating systems for morons.

[Encryptshun]

Microsoft had better marketing, deeper pockets, and a different strategy than Apple.

The fact that the government uses Windows has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Windows being a superior product.

[Jesda]

Me? No. My job takes place at OSI layers 1-5. I'm a network engineer, we dont tinker with operating systems of that nature. However, the Senior Systems Administrators that I worked with while setting up networks in Iraq/Afghanistan, configuring Active Directory for our forward deployed sites, now they worked with windows. Oddly enough, I didn't see a single piece of Crapple there, regardless of the more than one or two operating systems they make. Wonder why...

This is not to say that Apple doesn't have it's place. It's great, if you're a mid 20's douchebag sitting in Starbucks and scripting your memoirs, or making more s*** movies. Windows powers the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of... I think you see a pattern here. Now I'm not saying this is a shortcoming of Apple, far from it in fact, it's a design. I return to my initial statement of Apple making operating systems for morons.

If we're going to follow your damaged logic, it seems apparent from this conversation that Windows was designed for elitist knobs.

You associate hardware and software with people in an irrational way that's motivated by some bitterness, and what it stems from baffles me. You have a personal problem and I wish you luck in resolving it.



I use everything -- Windows, OS X, iOS, -and- Android depending on the piece of hardware. I can't imagine being as simple and close-minded as you. I use whatever gets the job done with a reasonable level of enjoyment and value. Taking computers so personally... I find that bizarre and irrational. Technology changes at a pace that makes everything fleeting and temporary -- aligning oneself with fervent loyalty (or disaligning with fervent anger) to any hardware or software platform is insane.

[flohtingPoint]

Me? No. My job takes place at OSI layers 1-5. I'm a network engineer, we dont tinker with operating systems of that nature. However, the Senior Systems Administrators that I worked with while setting up networks in Iraq/Afghanistan, configuring Active Directory for our forward deployed sites, now they worked with windows. Oddly enough, I didn't see a single piece of Crapple there, regardless of the more than one or two operating systems they make. Wonder why...

This is not to say that Apple doesn't have it's place. It's great, if you're a mid 20's douchebag sitting in Starbucks and scripting your memoirs, or making more s*** movies. Windows powers the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of... I think you see a pattern here. Now I'm not saying this is a shortcoming of Apple, far from it in fact, it's a design. I return to my initial statement of Apple making operating systems for morons.

If we're going to follow your damaged logic, it seems apparent from this conversation that Windows was designed for elitist knobs.

You associate hardware and software with people in an irrational way that's motivated by some bitterness, and what it stems from baffles me. You have a personal problem and I wish you luck in resolving it.

Yes, Windows was designed for elitist knobs. The soldiers I went to war with, making less than 20K a year, that deployed Windows systems are big time elitist knobs, how dare they! Those jerks, setting up that high brow Bill Gates software, hanging out on vacation in Baghdad, sipping fine wine with their families.

Look son, I've already told you I handle layers 1-5 for my job, if you knew anything about networks you'd understand what I'm talking about and realize that Windows has nothing to do with me personally. Now I do have to interact with the folks that do configure the remaining layers and (here comes a shocker) nobody has any use for Apple trash as we're doing real work. We dont need a "My First Computer" from Fischer Price, we need a system that actually does something.

The fact that the government uses Windows has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Windows being a superior product.

Really? How many years do you have working in networking on a global level? What qualifications do you have to make a statement like that? I've been all over the planet, configuring networks on six continents, anything of importance is being handled either by a *nix or Windows. It's not a matter of opinion, it's fact. Microsoft make products that translate to the real world, Apple just makes toys.

-No NMS systems run on Apple
-No mail relays are run on Apple
-No ND takes place on Apple
-No ESX's are built on Apple
-etc

This is real life, not the coffee shop.

[Jesda]

Yes, Windows was designed for elitist knobs. The soldiers I went to war with, making less than 20K a year, that deployed Windows systems are big time elitist knobs, how dare they! Those jerks, setting up that high brow Bill Gates software, hanging out on vacation in Baghdad, sipping fine wine with their families.

This paragraph proved my point. I didn't say "Windows was designed for elitist knobs." I said, "If we're going to follow your damaged logic," posing a hypothetical.

Not only did you follow it through, you were completely oblivious to what I said.



You see, it doesn't matter how you perceive someone using a piece of technology. It's just gadgets and software, a brief moment in time, things that expire, get replaced, and get discarded. You are getting excited, negatively, over something that has no bearing on your quality of life. You are as emotional, irrational, and fanatical as the people who line up at 1am to buy iPhones.

[Ace2cool]

iCaramba!

[Looneybomber]

Windows powers the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of... I think you see a pattern here.

Windows definitely does NOT power things on the Top Secret level. For that, there's OS's I never heard of and had to learn them to do my (military) job, not my civilian job. I think we have some secret level machines on windows, but I can't remember, and we don't use them.

[krash]

The government uses Crown Vics and suburbans. Why are we on a Nissan forum? CROWN VICS OR GTFO

[Encryptshun]

The fact that the government uses Windows has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Windows being a superior product.

Really? How many years do you have working in networking on a global level? What qualifications do you have to make a statement like that? I've been all over the planet, configuring networks on six continents, anything of importance is being handled either by a *nix or Windows. It's not a matter of opinion, it's fact. Microsoft make products that translate to the real world, Apple just makes toys.

-No NMS systems run on Apple
-No mail relays are run on Apple
-No ND takes place on Apple
-No ESX's are built on Apple
-etc

This is real life, not the coffee shop.

Apple OS has been Unix-based since 2002. But that's beside the point. Nothing in your disdainful rebuttal refuted what I said.

Also, I'm not sure why you feel you have to list your resume in a thread about the death of a human being, but whatever flohts your boat.

[krash]

Just for the record Jim, you're a cool dude. I haz no anger towards you homes.

You just kinda went crazy with this one

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Microsoft had better marketing, deeper pockets, and a different strategy than Apple.

The fact that the government uses Windows has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Windows being a superior product.