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kimpton9889
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i have just freshly boosted my KADE and i am having starting problems. it will start fine push starting it but it wont start with the starter and it has a brand new battery and the starter isnt that old. I am wondering if the iacv would have something to do with it. the MAF is fine. im either thinking the iacv or the TPS. i need some help or suggestions. its in a 93 coupe


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Jabberwocky
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Does it turn over or make any noise when you turn the key?

I had a ground wire from the head to the strut tower corrode and break once and I had to push start the car...

kimpton9889
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it turns over by the starter but just doesnt seem to b able to build the compression enough to start im thinkn the starter but not sure

kimpton9889
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and now it wont even roll start. im thinkn the pigtail to the distributor. but im gettin fuel and fire to all cylinders. This is so dang confusing

chillmieste
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Car: 97 240sx KA-T
Location: Ft lauderdale

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If you the car starts when u push start it you have a STARTER problem. Either you missed hooking up a ground, or the solenoid on the starter is sticking. Do a voltage drop test while someone is cranking the motor, that should tell you how much the starter is drawing...... sry while further reading now it doesnt start at all? How well was the engine running when u got it push started? please post setup, then we might be able to help a bit more

kimpton9889
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its a kit that i bought from a friend that blew his engine before he could put it on. It is an ebay kit ;( but its still a turbo kit. but it was running great boosted amazingly i only had it at 3psi. i think im either gettin spark blow out or its just way to lean with the stock 270cc inj. I dnt have Safc or FMU. The MAF is before the turbo. The kit looks like the one in that pic. except Cast manifold. T3/T4 turbo china made.

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neverlift
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oh you on super low boost(lower then my ebc off4psi)
so it was running then you drove it with stock injectors?
now it doesnt run?
compression test?
boost leak test?

kimpton9889
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dnt have compression tester trying to get one so i can but when i checked the timing i took the plugs out and they had oil on them but still fired when i checked the plug. O and it has a good ammount of blow by so im thinkn the oil rings went bad.

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neverlift
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I'm thinking your ring lands are busted to s***.
did the distributor get retarded a couple degrees?
the fuel was premium?

chillmieste
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noooo another blown kat! there is just so much info on here to help us avoid this outcome. cheap builds r NOT the way to go. its just hard work then 2 seconds of love, then disappointment. compression test should def till u if gone. dont do anything else till u do that. sry man ive been there before as well. lucky for us ka blocks r everywhere!

kimpton9889
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What is a good site i can get a good rebuild kit form? and forged pistons

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neverlift
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you dont need forged pistons you need fuel and timing control and bigger injectors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9fr7BnsB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkW_Bjrt ... re=related
those are 2 examples of thousands on stock internals making 300+hp.
fuel/timing
comp test the motor its only 20 minutes of your time.

kimpton9889
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yeah but i dnt have a tester and no money to rent 1

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superDorifto
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Car: 1997 Eclipse Spyder - AWD/5spd swap in progress
1995 Q45 - 5spd swap in progress
1984 200sx hatch(KA-t swap) - 355WHP
1991/1993/1995/1997 240s - Dead
1982 200sx hatch - fixed/scrapped
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neverlift wrote:you dont need forged pistons you need fuel and timing control and bigger injectors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9fr7BnsB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkW_Bjrt ... re=related
those are 2 examples of thousands on stock internals making 300+hp.
fuel/timing
comp test the motor its only 20 minutes of your time.
forged internals are always a good idea.

when I left KA-T 4 or so years ago everyone was all about built motors....now everyone just wants to slap an FMU on like a band aid and claim that its a perfectly safe set up. stock pistons (ring lands) and rods are a shot in the dark.

BS. build it or dont complain when it blows.

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neverlift
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an fmu is a perfectly safe setup for <8psi, with some timing retard. I drove that way for a year with 0 issues. But lost 2 motors on afc. Thats like saying I want to go forged but cant afford a compression tester..

and again probably thousands of people have made 300 on stock blocks...the key is controlling detonation. You can blow the ring lands off of forgies...

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superDorifto
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forged.

thousands of people have made 300....for a while, the fuel system was not designed to have that much prssure pushed through it...something will fail eventually.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh when I say that forged internals should always be an option, but like I said the demeanor in this forum has changed greatly in the last 5 or so years...maybe its a part of the decline as older people move on, but back when I had my old motor there were dozens of members that would chime in for issues like this and suggest

forged internals....

its not even that expensive anymore, a set of rods and pistons is like $700 with shipping.

FMUs are half assing it, SAFC is half assing it, build it right....there are enough GOOD build thread on this sight, zilvia, and ka-t.org to show new people what to do.

kimpton9889
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ok i got it started and is SMOKES like a freight train litterally.and blowing oil out the exhaust. So FRIED oil rings im thinking. No knock or rattle

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neverlift
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an fmu would have held his ring lands together, an afc and injector setup would too. Without being forged


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