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somgaet
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I have search all over the forum for an answer or a step in the right direction and just can't seem to find anything related to the problem I am having.
I have a 95 240sx SE w/ an automatic.... I know... lame.
The problem I am having is that it doesn't start every time. Some times I can turn the key and it will start right away, others, I have to try 15 to 20 times. I have changed the ignition switch, the starter and checked the starting relay and all the components are good. The car came with factory security, so I don't know if that may play a role in it not starting. I did notice a cable that goes into the ignition and have no clue what that is.

Anyone have any clue what may the cause of this. I have been dealing with this for almost 2 years and am finally fed up with it enough to get rid of the car. Any help would be greatly appreciate


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samxini
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somgaet wrote:I have search all over the forum for an answer or a step in the right direction and just can't seem to find anything related to the problem I am having.
I have a 95 240sx SE w/ an automatic.... I know... lame.
The problem I am having is that it doesn't start every time. Some times I can turn the key and it will start right away, others, I have to try 15 to 20 times. I have changed the ignition switch, the starter and checked the starting relay and all the components are good. The car came with factory security, so I don't know if that may play a role in it not starting. I did notice a cable that goes into the ignition and have no clue what that is.

Anyone have any clue what may the cause of this. I have been dealing with this for almost 2 years and am finally fed up with it enough to get rid of the car. Any help would be greatly appreciate
Sounds like EXACTLY what my car has been doing. I haven't sourced the problem either but check your grounds and wires. My wires are looking pretty beat up and I'm starting to think that could be the problem.

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SilviablhS14
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I would check the fuel pump. I had a neon at one point that was doing this and turned out just to be the fuel pump.
Just my 2 cents worth.

somgaet
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SilviablhS14 wrote:I would check the fuel pump. I had a neon at one point that was doing this and turned out just to be the fuel pump.
Just my 2 cents worth.
I can hear the fuel pump come on so I don't think that is the issue. I will be checking it though... Thanks for the suggestions guys. Anyone with more info, please give me some ideas.

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PapaSmurf2k3
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Is the car cranking over and just not starting? Or is it not cranking over at all?

somgaet
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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Is the car cranking over and just not starting? Or is it not cranking over at all?
It's not trying to crank at all. When it does decide to work, it cranks normally as it should. Its the oddest thing I have ever had to deal with and it drives me crazy.

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Try shifting the car into neutral next time, letting the car roll a tiny bit, then put it back in park. If it starts, then I still have no clue what it is, but I've seen this work many a time.
Also, jiggle the shift lever when you try to start it.

somgaet
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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Try shifting the car into neutral next time, letting the car roll a tiny bit, then put it back in park. If it starts, then I still have no clue what it is, but I've seen this work many a time.
Also, jiggle the shift lever when you try to start it.
I tried these things and it didn't change a thing. It seems that it has a mind of it's own...
Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated... or a fix even!

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I have the same problem, but in a manual s13. I'm interested in hearing an answer to this too. I wish i had something to suggest but i dont.

somgaet
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laxands13 wrote:I have the same problem, but in a manual s13. I'm interested in hearing an answer to this too. I wish i had something to suggest but i dont.
Does your car have an OEM alarm in it?

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It has a Viper system

somgaet
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Does anyone know if the factory keyless/alarm system has an immobilizer or starter kill?

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I do not. I bet you could go down to your local shady neighborhood and toss a gangster a 5er and he could tell you. Hell, he could probably rig your car up to a push button and get it to start every time.

somgaet
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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I do not. I bet you could go down to your local shady neighborhood and toss a gangster a 5er and he could tell you. Hell, he could probably rig your car up to a push button and get it to start every time.
I was thinking about adding that starting button idea, but I just really want to solve this problem....

somgaet
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I figured out my problem!!! After posting, I decided to go out with my meter and shoot some more wires. Everything checked out good and I was scratching my head. I finally decided to take out the brand new ignition switch and check it without the key/lockset part. The continuity checked out good. I plug it back in and try to start the car straight from the ignition switch...Wouldn't you know! It starts every single time. Doesn't skip a beat! I stuck the ignition switch back into the key/lockset, tried to start and it wouldn't. Pull it back out, and start straight from the switch and I'm good to go! The catch is, until you get a new key/lockset part, you still have to put the key in and turn it so that the steering wheel and shifter (auto) unlocks. Other than that, start your car, put the key in the key hole, and turn... then you're good to go!


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