Starter Signal (chapter 2)

[Dairus]

Hello again since my problem started last week I thought it was the starter but seems that isn't the starter. Its the signal he is recieving a very poor signal to the starter that won't make him rotate. I wanna know why this is happening for now on I just "temporary" put a wire on the starter I find the wire of the switch that make the car turn on and I cut it then plugged with the one that I put on the starter. but doing this its like having a old car pressing the gas pedal for like 6 or 9 times so he can have enough gas to turn and this its getting me sick. I just wanna know why he is not turning on normal as he was before that I don't got to open the hood or either press the gas pedal or spread gas with a bottle on the air filter. I have 2 starters and they are good the problems is the signal its very poor. I wanna know which piece I need to change to increase that signal.

Thanks

[NISTECH]

What kind of car and what exactly do you mean by "poor signal". lack of enough voltage or lack of voltage all together.

[Dairus]

Its a Nissan 240SX and yes Sir it lacks of voltage its very poor. and I really don't know why this is happening.

Thanks

[NISTECH]

If its a manual trans check to see if the pedal is pushing the switch at the end of its travel. The switch is located on the clutch pedal braket. You may be missing the botton that the switch pushes against on the pedal.

[Dairus]

Ok Sir but what happens if its an Automatic transmission as in my case. the year of the car 92"

Thanks

[NISTECH]

Try wiggling the shifter or put it in N when you try to start it see if it starts then.

Also your car might have a factory alarm that is partially disconnected so in that case unlock your passenger door with the key then try to start it. The reason I say the passenger door is. If the system had been partially disconnected there must have been a reason, the usual reason is the drivers lock cyl alarm switch is broke.

[Dairus]

Sir I put the car on N many times but still doing the same about the alarm that came with the car when I bought this car I got to remove it because it was giving me such of problems on the streets if they have a hole or those little cement walls across the street if the car pass over it, it was shutting down very often and I got to wait for a while and he was a battery eater I got to replace it 2 times they was something wrong with the wires. But it was a long time ago.

Thanks

[NISTECH]

I wasnet talking about an aftermarket alarm. I was talking about the cars factory alarm. It does not have motion sensors so it wont go off when a car passes by. It is mearly an entry alarm. Try what I said with the key and see if thats it.

[Dairus]

Sir am been trying all the morning and part of the afternoon on it without results I did exactly all you toll me also I was testing other things but nothing. I had in mind if there are any posibility to increase the voltage with some type of relay but before trying this I need to find the problem cuz if it is a piece can be replace because if they are broken wires in some were it can't be replace that easy

[NISTECH]

ok lets take it from the top here.

While someone is holding the ignition key in the start position:

How many volts do you have at the small wire on the starter solonoid?

How many volts do you have on the large wire going to the starter solonoid?

NOTE: the solonoid is the smaller cylindrical gold peice attached to the starter.

[Dairus]

Sir its dead now, no voltage and as regular he should be sending like some 12v but he is not sending nothing to it and that means that I can't put the relay to amplify the voltage cuz he is not sending no voltage. the pass week he was turning on but with problem you got to twist the key like 12 times to turn on but now you can twist it for more than 20 and he won't turn

Thanks

[NISTECH]

Did you actually use a volt meter to measure the voltage. And if so which wire did you test?

[Dairus]

Yes Sir I use the voltage meter with the plug and without the plug and I test the one that its sending the voltage that its dead (00.0) no voltage. Because theres only one wire that sends the voltage.

Thanks

[NISTECH]

Actually theres 2 wires but I think your talking about the ignition wire. SO with that you have either got a bad ignition switch,inhibit relay ,or inhibitor. You need to trace the circuit back till you find where the voltage stops when you turn the key.

[Dairus]

Sir sorry for not responding more quicker it just that I was having a little trouble with the computer my excuses. Well Ill check the switch and the relay I hope its the switch shouldn't be that expensive I guess... cuz I check all relay relate on starter and switch. well Sir thanks alot

Many thanks