starter dead maybe help

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monodark
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Woot I searched this time and didn't find a answer to my issue. Problem started last week I went to change my power steering pressure line so I put my car up on ramps. I went under it and noticed I had no wire running into the sensory that's there but the car always started so no worrys in my eyes. Btw that wire to go there is non exsistant in my car. Anyways I changed the line went to start the car to move it off the ramps and it just clicked so I hooked my wrx up to the car thinking it was a dead battery but nuttin still a click so I said okay starters dead so I took it out brought it to autozone and it tested as a pass. So I go back home and put it back in and try to start it still just a click. But if I touch the positive n the negative on the starter with a screw driver the engine starts to crank. Could the silanoid be done for. Is there a way to fix this problem till I can afford my new starter?


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monodark wrote:Could the silanoid be done for. Is there a way to fix this problem till I can afford my new starter?
Yes
monodark wrote:But if I touch the positive n the negative on the starter with a screw driver the engine starts to crank.
And you answered your own question...

Other ways to do it:- have a manual car? push start or park down hill wherever you go.- have a buddy? have someone tap on the starter solenoid w/ a long rod - i.e. jack handle or whatever - while you crank the car - I did this for a while when my starter was going out.- If you don't have a buddy, you can still do the method above, but you will need to tap the starter by yourself for a good 30 seconds to 2 minutes depending on how dead it is; this will knock the stuck part loose, then you can start like normal.

Another thing to check is your battery terminals - even if you hook up another battery, but the terminals are bad or not making good contact, then you will have starting issues.

I just fixed my latest starting issues yesterday - car was reading 12v off, starter clicked but no crank, I'm like "oh noes".

Checked the battery again & noticed the positive terminal had slowly gotten loose over time and was barely making contact. Tightened it down & car starts normally again - worth the 30 seconds it takes to check to save yourself from more work.

monodark
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Okay well the car only starts if popped started when I have it going atleast 25 miles an hour we tried to push it once to do it and it wouldn't so my friend with a truck pushed it n all other attempts failed till we hit 25 mph. I did try to beat on it and turn it over but no success there. So I touched the negative to the positive n the motor cranked over again. So then my friend next door had me crank the motor while he jiggled the positive feed to my alternator becuz my bolt on my alternators positive is bent somehow and it started again wtf. The battery is new I just replaced both termial wires today. Could the alternators positive being bent be a problem? Or maybe cuz my starters silanoid bolt is a bit rusted could that be why it fails to start. Getting irriated. I finally had the car running good I park it in my neiborhood in the ghettos of ct and now it don't run

preludesamsivtec
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what u need to do is a voltage drop on the power wire that goes to the starter. Take a dvom(digital volt ohm meter) set it to read dc voltage. Indicators on the meter will have numbers, most read 200m 2 20 100. Set yours to 20 this is the max it will read. Apply the negative end(black) to the negative post on the battery. Then the positive end on the positive post. Try to start the car and read the number with the key in the start position. Should be close to 12. Then move the positive lead to the starter and repeat cranking. Read this number if it is not close to 12 then you have a bad starter wire or connection at the starter or battery. if this is good check the starter mating surface to the block. this is the ground for the starter. it should be clean. It sounds like the switch is good since you can hear the click, that is the solenoid.

monodark
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Is the ground the black wire that comes off the bolt on the canister looking thing on the starter or are u saying to take the starter out and clean where it meets the transmission that its bolted to. Guess I should add that its a ka24e. Will be a turbo if it starts so I can do a compression check.

Should I take the negative off on the solenoid and clean it cuz I was squirting power steering fluid for awhile. But the car did start alll the other times

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monodark
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Okay here's a update I checked all my wires today and I noticed I have a broken orange and black wire that is coming out of the set of wires that can do to my alternator starter. My friend touched the orange to the starters positive and the black to the negative and when I turned the key I had a click click click does there's wires go here?

preludesamsivtec
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ya clean the transmission and starter but i dont understand the click click touching wires to places that ur not sure where they go is a bad idea thats how you cook electrical devices please find a electrical manual, search manual on the forums i saw a couple places to download the full nissan manual in pdf format. the wire that comes off the solenoid goes to the actual starter motor ( really short wire ) the solenoid tells the starter when to engage, its a small component controlling a large component. there is no ground wire on the starter in uses the block as the ground so maybe check the connections from the negative cable to body and the connections from the block to the body i will check on the wires to the alternator.


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