Stand Alone Turbo Oiling System

[WDRacing]

I'd like to take a probe of the interest in such a project. I have spare time, some decent welding skills and access to alot of various things to play with. I was thinking about making a Seperate Oiling System for the turbo. This would allow us to run a different oil for the turbo, change that oil when ever we wanted and eliminate the drilling of the pans. Plus I can regulate the amount of oil alot better.

Would anyone buy one of these if I put one together?

WD

[Poor_S13_Driver]

This sounds very intresting, and im intrested to learn more

[S13FX]

Dude after what I went with the oil pan and everything I think this would be well worth the time and money. I would buy on in a heart beat. So what do you have in mind?

[Florida240sx]

I've thought of a setup. Oil cooler under the car with a 2qt capacity aluminum. Aluminum box with SS lines. Goes turbo--Drian line---oil cooler---2qt box w/pump--ss line--turbo

[Florida240sx]

Would have to have it wired in a way to were if flow stopped it would kill spark.

[watty]

We had one of these setup on an s13 KA-T. Worked great and even had a built in pressure bypass that would hold the oil pressure @55psi. It came out of the car because it was louder than the engine. The pump we used was a differential pump from Summit Racing. If anybody wants to pick up the whole setup, I can talk to my friend who owns it. We used an s13 power steering resevoir as the oil resevoir and filling point.

Watty

[180sx]

How you gonna pump it? Get rid of powersteering system and use the pump? I myself just took timing cover off and drilled it for return bung. I found it easier than oil pan(well i changed like 4 timing kits , so easier for me anyway).

[S13FX]

Holy **** man thats ****in brilliant. You got any pics man?

[watty]

Holy **** man thats ****in brilliant. You got any pics man?

I think this is directed towards me. I do have pics but they are on another computer. I'll try to remember to post them later.

Watty

[S13FX]

Well I want to see the pictures of the oil return line on the timing cover. but the pictures of the self oiling system would be great too.

[LEMHEAD16]

Why add the cost of a "Stand alone oiling system"

Tapping the pan is not that hard and it is inexpensive. Drop the sway bar, jack the motor up unbolt pan, drill a hole and have a bung welded on. 2 hours labor at the the max and ~$30 bucks for the materials and welding (if you can't do it yourself) Add $20 for the drain line and fittings and your out the door for ~$50 bucks.

Stand alone would require Pumps, lines, cooler, resevoirs and the like. I don't see that coming in under $50.

Also I really don't see an advantage of it and like Florida said if it stops pumping while the motor is running say goodbye to your turbo. At least with the traditional system if something goes wrong you have a warning light that says "Stop the Car Idiot something is very wrong!" I suppose that something like that could be added to the SA system but, again the cost is just going up.

I estimate a setup like this would cost somewhere between 200-300 dollars. I would rather spend that money on a Meth injection kit and make some more horsepower.

I'm all for thinking outside the box Brian but, I have to be the devils advocate on this one.

[watty]

The nice thing about having a seperate system is that you can run different weight oil through your turbo that will handle the heat more efficiently. Also, the system we were using held the oil pressure at a constant psi unlike pulling it off of the motor. And finally the coolest part was being able to prime the turbo before you ever started the car and we left the pump running after the engine was cut off which acted as a better solution turbo timer. Yes, it is expensive, right around $250. The pump was $180 of that though and is the only piece that made us remove the system because of the vibration. If someone can source a compatible rotary pump as opposed to the piston style we were using, I will gladly put the system on my s14.

Watty

[SPIRONIUM]

What kind of oil would be more ideal for a turbo? I like this idea and i would like to see pics and more info. Would a seperate oil pressure gauge be a necessary thing or is this thing trusted to do its job without any warning lights?

On the other side of it, for me it seems like its one more thing to worry about. I think i'd rather have the single oem nissan oil pump to rely on for everything. Maybe this thing would be better suited for a multiple turbo car? Not for the more minimalistic ppl i suppose.

[watty]

We were running Mobile 1 full synthetic 20W-50. It was a toss up between that and the 15W-40 Diesel engine oil. We did run a seperate oil gauge and it worked flawlessly everytime, but I would still recomend some sort of light that shows the pump is running. We just used a lighted toggle switch. Of course, like i said the pump was louder than the engine so you would definately know if it wasn't running.

I agree that if you are going for a minimalist route, this is not the setup for you. We were just trying something different. Also, I liked the idea of the oil never getting contaminated by ring blow-by and tending to last a bit longer.

Watty

[WDRacing]

I'm all for thinking outside the box Brian but, I have to be the devils advocate on this one.

Thats cuz you're GAY

[LEMHEAD16]

Thats cuz you're GAY

So much anger!

[TrunkMonkey]

bah. just more **** that can break.

-demetrius

[pr240sx]

Would be great for those running a rear mounted turbo.As for oil pump, use a power steering pump. Anything electrical will cause too much amp draw.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

too bad fuel pumps cant handle that, you could take out your old fuel pump when you replace it with a big one, strap on a regulator and a resevoir, maybe a restrictor, and call it a day.