hey everyone
im looking at purchasing stainless steel brake line for my 240, but i wanted to know peoples opinion on if they are worth it or not?theres nothing wrong with my brake lines right now, but would the stainless steel really make a difference at all?
also, i know many people have changed there ignition spark plug wires to something thats "higher quality". my question is does it really help at all?
any advice would helpthanks!
Stainless steel brake lines and Ignition spark plug wires... worth it?
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ILikeMy240sx
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SS lines, Good brake pads, Good brake fluid, good condition rotors. All on 4 corners.
Combination of those will give you a good performing brakes. You will feel a bit of a difference with just SS lines but get all those and you will like your brakes. My friend's S13 has all those plus cross drilled rotors on all 4 corners and it stopped pretty damn well compared to my z32 brakes. But you dont really need cross drilled unless you auto-X alot.
Combination of those will give you a good performing brakes. You will feel a bit of a difference with just SS lines but get all those and you will like your brakes. My friend's S13 has all those plus cross drilled rotors on all 4 corners and it stopped pretty damn well compared to my z32 brakes. But you dont really need cross drilled unless you auto-X alot.
SS lines aren't really necessary if the factory ones go then you can replace it if not you can run with the factory lines for a while use that extra money for better responding pads instead.
oem rotors, and dot 3 fluid all you need. stay away from made in china rotors. i had seen many of them warp and eat up brake pads. yeah crossdrilled/dimpled/slotted/slitted whatever they call those holes/cuts cool the rotor a lot better but you sacrifice pad life.
lol it's for california stop and go traffic not autox.
oem rotors, and dot 3 fluid all you need. stay away from made in china rotors. i had seen many of them warp and eat up brake pads. yeah crossdrilled/dimpled/slotted/slitted whatever they call those holes/cuts cool the rotor a lot better but you sacrifice pad life.
lol it's for california stop and go traffic not autox.
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T.O 240sx
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hey guysthanks for all the feedback!... it really helps.
96240sx41... im not planning on puttin on a ignition box, but sounds like the spark plug wires could help out a lot.do you know if Spakco is a reputable brand for ignition spark plug wires?
ILikeMy240sx... that sounds good to me, my rotors are cross drilled and are almost brand new, as for brake fluid im using dot 3, and brake pads are monroe... i know i know, monroe?!! but they arent that bad, when they wear off i will buy better ones.
Juujai.... ill stay with the factory lines for a while longer. i can get a set for $100cdn which is like $80usd, which is pretty good... so thats why im interested.dont worry man, my rotors were not made in China! they're Canadian made... even better! lol
96240sx41... im not planning on puttin on a ignition box, but sounds like the spark plug wires could help out a lot.do you know if Spakco is a reputable brand for ignition spark plug wires?
ILikeMy240sx... that sounds good to me, my rotors are cross drilled and are almost brand new, as for brake fluid im using dot 3, and brake pads are monroe... i know i know, monroe?!! but they arent that bad, when they wear off i will buy better ones.
Juujai.... ill stay with the factory lines for a while longer. i can get a set for $100cdn which is like $80usd, which is pretty good... so thats why im interested.dont worry man, my rotors were not made in China! they're Canadian made... even better! lol
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Nissan-S14
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Re: (T.O 240sx)
IMO, upgrading the wires isnt necessary unless your are doing your regular tune up. And as far as the brakes the steel lines arent necessary for stock brakes as well, all you need is some good pads and rotors, And upgrade your fluid to DOT 4 or even 5. DOT 3 is the basic fluid for your brakes.T.O 240sx wrote:hey guysthanks for all the feedback!... it really helps.
96240sx41... im not planning on puttin on a ignition box, but sounds like the spark plug wires could help out a lot.do you know if Spakco is a reputable brand for ignition spark plug wires?
ILikeMy240sx... that sounds good to me, my rotors are cross drilled and are almost brand new, as for brake fluid im using dot 3, and brake pads are monroe... i know i know, monroe?!! but they arent that bad, when they wear off i will buy better ones.
Juujai.... ill stay with the factory lines for a while longer. i can get a set for $100cdn which is like $80usd, which is pretty good... so thats why im interested.dont worry man, my rotors were not made in China! they're Canadian made... even better! lol
Check out my brake page.http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/630095/2
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T.O 240sx
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Nissan-S14...thanks for the advice... i wont change them until i do my next tune upas for the brake fuild, i never knew you could use DOT 4 or 5... is it actually better for your brakes?i dont think if this comparison would be appropriate, but is it like 87,89,91 octane?if i do decide to get the ss, ill change the brake fuild one time.thanks for the tip!
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Nissan-S14
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Re: (T.O 240sx)
http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/motuloil.htmlT.O 240sx wrote:Nissan-S14...thanks for the advice... i wont change them until i do my next tune upas for the brake fuild, i never knew you could use DOT 4 or 5... is it actually better for your brakes?i dont think if this comparison would be appropriate, but is it like 87,89,91 octane?if i do decide to get the ss, ill change the brake fuild one time.thanks for the tip!
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ricebike
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Re: (T.O 240sx)
i wouldn't go DOT 5; that's a totally different fluid composition (silicone?)you'll have problems mixing the old fluid w/ that one...T.O 240sx wrote:as for the brake fuild, i never knew you could use DOT 4 or 5... is it actually better for your brakes?i dont think if this comparison would be appropriate, but is it like 87,89,91 octane?
DOT 4 is slightly better, however. I 4got if it's more hygroscopic, but i change my brake fluid every 2 years/30K miles anyways. Valvoline synthetic brand is readily available in my area.
Modified by ricebike at 12:41 PM 3/3/2005
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Re: (ricebike)
I would never mix the 2, you have to drain your old brake fluid. Thats what I did.ricebike wrote:
i wouldn't go DOT 5; that's a totally different fluid composition (silicone?)you'll have problems mixing the old fluid w/ that one...
DOT 4 is slightly better, however. I 4got if it's more hygroscopic, but i change my brake fluid every 2 years/30K miles anyways. Valvoline synthetic brand is readily available in my area.
Modified by ricebike at 12:41 PM 3/3/2005
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ricebike
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Re: (96240SX41)
yup, silicone fluid.... thinks its for classic cars, i 4got
DOT4 ~ DOT3, similar properties
u can just grab a partner & do the 2-person bleeding, flushing out the old 3 fluid while u fill the master cyl w/ the better DOT4 fluid, being sure that u don't introduce any air in the system... i did this method w/ 4 different cars already
DOT 3 and 4 fluids are classified as Hygroscopic..this means that they absorb water. This is a good thing. DOT 5 fluid is silicon based and does not absorb water. NEVER use DOT 5 fluid in an ABS system. The reason for this is that because is does not absorb water, the moisture that is introduced to the system ends up collecting in corner of the hydraulic system and corroding the hell out of whatever it touches. Hygroscopic fluids will absorb the moisture so that it is in very low concentration everywhere in the hydraulic system and will not cause any considerable corrosion if the system is properly maintained. Brake fluid does need to be changed at a minimum of every two years. As water is absorbed into the system....the boiling point of the fluid is decreased. When brake fluid boils, you get brake fade because it develops a gas in the hydraulic system. Gas is compressable while liquids are not. If gas exists in the system, your pedal pressure will go into compressing that rather than forcing the pads against the rotors and stopping the car. Additionaly, as water is absorbed into the system, the chances of component corrosion is greatly increased. I recommend that brake fluid be flushed once a year, or if the vehicle is race (not drag racing, but road racing) in an environment where the brakes are pushed past there limits, the system should be flushed after every race. For racing or high performance use, a performance brake fluid like MOTUL or ATE super blue is recommended. from another car forum i goto occasionally
Modified by ricebike at 9:17 PM 3/5/2005
DOT4 ~ DOT3, similar properties
u can just grab a partner & do the 2-person bleeding, flushing out the old 3 fluid while u fill the master cyl w/ the better DOT4 fluid, being sure that u don't introduce any air in the system... i did this method w/ 4 different cars already
DOT 3 and 4 fluids are classified as Hygroscopic..this means that they absorb water. This is a good thing. DOT 5 fluid is silicon based and does not absorb water. NEVER use DOT 5 fluid in an ABS system. The reason for this is that because is does not absorb water, the moisture that is introduced to the system ends up collecting in corner of the hydraulic system and corroding the hell out of whatever it touches. Hygroscopic fluids will absorb the moisture so that it is in very low concentration everywhere in the hydraulic system and will not cause any considerable corrosion if the system is properly maintained. Brake fluid does need to be changed at a minimum of every two years. As water is absorbed into the system....the boiling point of the fluid is decreased. When brake fluid boils, you get brake fade because it develops a gas in the hydraulic system. Gas is compressable while liquids are not. If gas exists in the system, your pedal pressure will go into compressing that rather than forcing the pads against the rotors and stopping the car. Additionaly, as water is absorbed into the system, the chances of component corrosion is greatly increased. I recommend that brake fluid be flushed once a year, or if the vehicle is race (not drag racing, but road racing) in an environment where the brakes are pushed past there limits, the system should be flushed after every race. For racing or high performance use, a performance brake fluid like MOTUL or ATE super blue is recommended. from another car forum i goto occasionally
Modified by ricebike at 9:17 PM 3/5/2005