St..St..St..St..Sti...Sti...Sti...Stillen, Stillen adjustable tension rods..

[redmanfx]

are finally on the Q.





My OEM tension rod bushings were a mess and sometimes made a poping or cracking noise under heavy breaking. Problem solved with the Stillen adjustables..





Easy as cake to replace the tension rods. Not even worth a write up!!

[elwesso]

the hardest part is taking the wheel off!

[Jesda]

Stuttering Steve.

[PopPop]

are finally on the Q.





My OEM tension rod bushings were a mess and sometimes made a poping or cracking noise under heavy breaking. Problem solved with the Stillen adjustables..





Easy as cake to replace the tension rods. Not even worth a write up!!

Hows your alignment now if U don't have it checked tires will wear! Ajustable TR will affect your caster etc.

[superuber]

Hey, are those on stillens site?I couldn't find them.



http://community.webshots.com/user/neheadsuperuber

[elwesso]

theyre the Z32 ones....

[Ozzie]

So if i want to change the bushings(not the rods), the Z32 ones will fit?

[superuber]

Wes, Red, could you give me your opinion on these....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWI looked on stillen and saw theirs,pretty pricey!I know the upper arms from stillen have had problems.Do you think stillens rods are better?

[elwesso]

So if i want to change the bushings(not the rods), the Z32 ones will fit?

yea that would be fine....

Rick those tension rods are probably "ok"... ANything that carries the SPL brand is gonna be the best you cna get....

[redmanfx]

Ozzie - I've got a set of Q OEM bushings in the box. Never used, just looked at if your interested. Not sure about OEM Z32 bushings fitting the Q, but allot of things due.

Superuber - Check Stillen's site for Z32 Adjustables. They're expensive. SPL has good adjustables as well for half the price of Stillens. I happened to get a good deal on these. I've been warned about the blue ones on e-bay you linked to.

PopPop - I'm going Monday for another alignment. They felt great today.. It's very easy to adjust them and tighten them down.

[AZhitman]

I think I need to do these on NICOmom's Q while it's being "rehabbed"....

[PopPop]

Wes, Red, could you give me your opinion on these....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWI looked on stillen and saw theirs,pretty pricey!I know the upper arms from stillen have had problems.Do you think stillens rods are better?

Those look like the SPL Tension Rods that Wes and I have they should work OK but if bid goes to high buy from SPL!

[sijoko]

Hows your alignment now if U don't have it checked tires will wear! Ajustable TR will affect your caster etc.

It is not the caster that will tear up your tires, but the fact that your toe is probably off.

If the adjustable tension rods are not set to the same length as the original ones, then your toe will be off. If the difference is large enough, you can ruin your tires in a very short time.

[naed240sx]

Those look pretty scary. Considering that those tension rods utilize pillowball mounts instead of bushings, the rod itself will be seeing far higher forces than the stock rod. It seems only logical that those rods should be beefed up, but it appears that they are not. Look at SPL's tension rods. They are 32 mm in diameter, which is massive compared to stock.

Cliffs: I wouldn't trust that rod on a car as heavy as a q45.

[redmanfx]

Actually all the stress should be transfered to the bolts holding the tension rod in place. If those bolts can hold, which are a little more then half the diameter of the rod itself, then I'm not worried at all. I'll be monitoring how well they perform.

[naed240sx]

Actually all the stress should be transfered to the bolts holding the tension rod in place. If those bolts can hold, which are a little more then half the diameter of the rod itself, then I'm not worried at all. I'll be monitoring how well they perform.

The bolts only see shear forces. They are also grade 8. The tension rods would be the first thing to fail for sure.

[PopPop]

It is not the caster that will tear up your tires, but the fact that your toe is probably off.

If the adjustable tension rods are not set to the same length as the original ones, then your toe will be off. If the difference is large enough, you can ruin your tires in a very short time.

Sijoko I never said that caster will tear up the tires! I was just saying that when U install these Tension Rods alignment will be off caster is how far your tire sits forward or back! These never just bolt right on out the box have to adjust length in order to align mounting holes! On shorter wheelbased cars more caster is needed but, the Q's wheelbase is long enough. I was just telling Steve to make sure to get it aligned or tires won't last very long!

[Ozzie]

Ozzie - I've got a set of Q OEM bushings in the box. Never used, just looked at if your interested. Not sure about OEM Z32 bushings fitting the Q, but allot of things due.

Yeah, I do need some. Mine have been cracked from day one.... Just haven't had the motivation to get a pair sourced/priced.

I just wanted to check, as Z32 parts would be easier to get compared to G50 parts..... and Nissans are notorious for using the same parts across models.

So how much would these bushings run me?

PS. Sorry for the thread-jack!

[redmanfx]

Yeah, I do need some. Mine have been cracked from day one.... Just haven't had the motivation to get a pair sourced/priced.

I just wanted to check, as Z32 parts would be easier to get compared to G50 parts..... and Nissans are notorious for using the same parts across models.

So how much would these bushings run me?

$43 USD shipped. I don't know what customs stuff I'll have to go through but I usually mark everything as a "gift" when it comes to that. I'll trade you the bushings for your Q's body kit!!

[sijoko]

Sijoko I never said that caster will tear up the tires! I was just saying that when U install these Tension Rods alignment will be off caster is how far your tire sits forward or back! These never just bolt right on out the box have to adjust length in order to align mounting holes! On shorter wheelbased cars more caster is needed but, the Q's wheelbase is long enough. I was just telling Steve to make sure to get it aligned or tires won't last very long!

PopPop, I wasn't picking on you. I just wanted to clarify that his toe would be out of whack and that is what needs to be addressed. A change in caster is not going to tear up tires like having incorrect toe settings.

When the tension arm length is changed, the lower control arm, at the spindle side, is moved either forward or backward. It moves in an arc. Since no other adjustments have been made, the toe will not be the same as before. That is the point that I wanted to get across.

I had Stillen tension arms on my car a long time ago. When I installed them, I tried my best to get the length as close to the factory tension rods as possible. Then I went for a nice long test drive. I didn't realize that, despite my best efforts, I had thrown out my toe alignment and ended up with feathered front tires. An alignment should have been done before the test drive.