SSautocrap Top Mount - Test Fit

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Well, I said I would post some pictures up of the test fit, so here it is. First test fit with no manifold.

Well, the manifold fit fine against the head. There were no tough studs to reach or anything that interfered with tightening them down. That was about the only good thing I could find.

I went to put the turbo on at this point, and low and behold it does not fit. It fits fine on the flange when its off the car, but the t3 flange is too low and angled way to much to even get the turbo close to getting it on. The compressor hits the power steering resovoir, and the turbine hits the BMC/Shock Tower wall.

At this point, I wasn't really mad because I don't think I expected much out of the manifold. So, I thought I'd give it another shot and put the turbo on the manifold first, then try and wedge it in there. This proved to be tougher than the first way. It didn't come close to even getting on the studs, simply because the turbo flange was angled so much and so low that the turbo just wouldnt let it fit. I even clocked the compressor housing and it didn't do much.

I suppose if I had a rhd car with no power steering, it might have fit fine...but I don't. And of course ssautotrash won't give refunds, only exchanges. I'm glad I didn't really wind up paying anything for this, but I'm still going to exchange it to see if I can get a better fitting one. If the next one turns as bad as this, I"m just going to make my own.

Bottom Line for topmount guys: Suck it up and just make a log manifold or convert your car to rhd.


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i guess you could make a adapter plate to re angle it back to the motor, but why go through all that hassle for a manifold that will break anyway.

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All stainless steel manifolds will crack at some point..doesnt matter if its Tomei or SSautocrack. But with the ssauto's, if properly braced, should have a decent lifespan. I was going to have it sent out to be re-enforced and cleaned up anyways.

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Why not move your power steering resavior a little. I am sure SSauto can not make there manifolds to work with every compressor and every turbo.

Moving the ps resavior would be easier rather than making an adaptor plate.

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Ichi-Go wrote:Why not move your power steering resavior a little. I am sure SSauto can not make there manifolds to work with every compressor and every turbo.

Moving the ps resavior would be easier rather than making an adaptor plate.
I believe he said it is hitting the brake MC too.

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Yes, I did think about moving the power steering. I didn't want to get rid of it. It's one of those little luxuries I'd like to keep. But it would still hit the master cylinder, and I'm pretty sure I can't move that one.

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key word is "moving" not "removing".

and run a smaller brake booster... paul did with his man sized turbo... off some datsun. gotta be creative with fitting a big turbo sometimes!

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any chance you might remember what Datsun it was off of? I might need to do that.

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the smallest Datsun booster is on the 120Y....and another small one...only a bit bigger than the 120Y is off the 180B.

Im not sure what you americans call 180B's and 120Y's tho Im sure you do call them something different.

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teddy wrote:All stainless steel manifolds will crack at some point..doesnt matter if its Tomei or SSautocrack. But with the ssauto's, if properly braced, should have a decent lifespan. I was going to have it sent out to be re-enforced and cleaned up anyways.
what?? man i know drag racers that have the same SS manifold on there for the last 6+ years, its all about the materials and the skill of the welder/fabricator,, SSAC top mounts fault is

A) the collector is POOR, and not sleeved with expansion joints or at least a nice merge, it awfull..

b) material, piss poor quality stainless

c) careless craftsmanship/fab work..

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CA19DET wrote:what?? man i know drag racers that have the same SS manifold on there for the last 6+ years, its all about the materials and the skill of the welder/fabricator,, SSAC top mounts fault is

A) the collector is POOR, and not sleeved with expansion joints or at least a nice merge, it awfull..

b) material, piss poor quality stainless

c) careless craftsmanship/fab work..
Good thing my friend spent $900 on a quality JIC manifold for his SR. ...........................

Oh wait, it cracked after 6 months.

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teddy wrote:Well, I said I would post some pictures up of the test fit, so here it is. First test fit with no manifold.

Well, the manifold fit fine against the head. There were no tough studs to reach or anything that interfered with tightening them down. That was about the only good thing I could find.

I went to put the turbo on at this point, and low and behold it does not fit. It fits fine on the flange when its off the car, but the t3 flange is too low and angled way to much to even get the turbo close to getting it on. The compressor hits the power steering resovoir, and the turbine hits the BMC/Shock Tower wall.

blah blah...
Just out of curiosity, was your car originally an automatic that was converted to manual?

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nope..always been a 5spd.

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c-rad wrote:
Good thing my friend spent $900 on a quality JIC manifold for his SR. ...........................

Oh wait, it cracked after 6 months.
the problem with all those high price JDM manifolds is that they are pretty much the same as SSautochrome. they are all made of thin walled stainless steel.

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just wondering how big of a turbo are you trying to use?

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t3/t04e

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c-rad wrote:
Good thing my friend spent $900 on a quality JIC manifold for his SR. Oh wait, it cracked after 6 months.
too bad for your buddy, but my friends are either using full-race or burns steel made manifolds,

allot of the JDM brands aare made by the same chinese or tiawaneese comapnies that maek SSAC..

TOMEI, HKS, JUN, APEXI and GREDDY are really the only ones i would buy manifolds from, the R&D and reputation are not worth minging on quality stainless steel..

FULL-RACE etc use burns stainless or similar quality 321ss with much thicker wall pipes, proper merge collectors etc, i stay away from anything chromed or polished for bling and marketing.


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