ssautochrome turbo kit.(PICS)

[2d-ink]

My plan was to always go with a RB20det. Why did I wanted this. because I purchased a 91 240sx for $600 with a blown engine. Untill now when I came across a KA24De long block with 100,000 miles on it for $120 at the local Pick and Pull.. After Purchasing the motor I knew I wouldnt be satisfy with the power.. After endless searching on the internet for a good Bang for Bucks I came across the SSAUTOCHROME turbo on ebay.. seeing that no one bid on it I got my kit for fairly cheap $630 shipped to my door on Christmas eve. I've heard rumors and bad Rep about SSAUTOCHROME stuff, but for the price that I got it for I didnt care. After all its a Gamble when you modify a car.

The Kit came well packaged and it even had one of those sticker that said Fragile Handle with care, I knew that the people at SSAUTOCHROME didnt want there product to be damage, so they did the best they can with the Packaging and I'm very happy with it. Nothing was damange, everything was in perfect condition.

The Manifold looks great. the weld looks good, and they even Pre Brace the turbo flange. I've heard that the manifold is weak and might crack. so I'm not taking any risk, as soon as the break is over its back into the shop, welding some more bracing onto the manfiold..

BOV: the Type RFL Bov that I got looks good. everything is there just like in the pictures.

Wastegate: I believe the wastegate is a replica of the Tial wastegate. all the Hardware and flange came with it. and they also sended instruction of the Wastegate too..

Vband down pipe: It was a little hard to get the Pipe into the Vband clamp I had to use force to get it in, but then again it should be a good thing because it just shows me that it'll be nice and seal and I wont get any exhaust leak.

Turbo: I thought I was going to get a T3 turbo but I needed up with a T4 turbo I believe because of the flange. The Flange is a T4 turbo flange instead of a T3 but it still fit the Manifold so I'm very happy that I got a bigger turbo than what I paid for. Someone said that SSAUTO turbo isnt balance well I took it to my father inlaw that has been rebuilding Diesel turbo for 5 years now to ask him if it was balance and have him check it out after. He said everything looks good and that the turbo is definatly balance.

I got everything that was showing in the pictures on Ebay I got all the Oil line, hardware, gasket, and instruction.. For those people who Diss on SSAUTO its probably because you heard bad rumors about it. Buy a Kit yourself and you'll know what I mean. For the price that you are paying for a SSAUTO kit I'm willing to take that gamble who cares if its not Name Brand and its Generic.. Everything out there are Generic these days even Medicine. there's Generic Medicine that do the same thing as brand name medicine. I remember when people said that Brand Name Intake works better than Generic Intake untill some one did a research on it and the different was base on the Filter..

Here are some pictures. of My Pose and the Kit 56K please be patience.

My Pose. I did Red/Clear Tail lights, and slap on some Megan Lowering Spring, and I painted the Steelies gold for some JDM HOTTNESS The blown engine. New one sitting at school in shop class. The turbo Kit. The T4 turbo. Look at the Flange its not T3. Manifold you can see that they did a Pre Bracing on the Flange.

[Redline240]

I'm impressed...i think i'm gonna go ahead and order one of these kits cause its taken me forever to get around to peicing all the parts together...I'd love to see it installed, see how the turbo sits on the manifold in the engine bay, etc...

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[ILikeMy240sx]

Ive heard some bad things happen to that SS autochrome manis.... Like that picture of civic's mani.. That looked like a nightmare yikes.

Hope you have GL with your install

[DRIFTEADOR]

Quote »Nothing was damange, everything was in perfect condition[/quote]i would hope that is expected from any vendorQuote »The Manifold looks great. the weld looks good[/quote]robotic welds Quote »and they even Pre Brace the turbo flange.[/quote]that brace does nothing. what you need to brace is the turbo so that the manifold is not supporting its weight. a propertly braced turbo is one that wouldnt drop when the manifold is removed. Quote »I've heard that the manifold is weak and might crack[/quote]cracking was a problem with their older manifolds like this one:http://www.stockreco.com/DSC00039.JPG...because the of the wall thickness (18ga i believe) The new ones look beefier, I dont think there is any evidence of the new ones cracking.

Quote »Vband down pipe[/quote]nice. I didnt even know v-band was standard. a v-band setup usually costs more than the flange type.

Quote »Turbo: I thought I was going to get a T3 turbo but I needed up with a T4 turbo I believe because of the flange. The Flange is a T4 turbo flange instead of a T3 but it still fit the Manifold so I'm very happy that I got a bigger turbo than what I paid for. Someone said that SSAUTO turbo isnt balance well I took it to my father inlaw that has been rebuilding Diesel turbo for 5 years now to ask him if it was balance and have him check it out after. He said everything looks good and that the turbo is definatly balance. [/quote]bigger isn't necessarily better, or more expensive for that matter. seriously, I would send it back and have them send you the correct turbo as advertised...or have them refund some bling. and about the balancing, keep in mind turbos these days spin at speeds of 100,000rpm and higher. it would be pretty hard to tell whether its balanced by looking at it (read, impossible)

Quote »For those people who Diss on SSAUTO its probably because you heard bad rumors about it.[/quote]heard rumors, seen pics, experienced....thats how a company gets a bad rep. is it justified? I think so.

Quote »who cares if its not Name Brand and its Generic.. Everything out there are Generic these days even Medicine. there's Generic Medicine that do the same thing as brand name medicine.[/quote]medicine is goverment regulated, overseas manufacturing quality isnt. there is a reason why the stuff is so cheap. like i mentioned in a previous post. it'll work for a while but dont expect it to last as long as the expensive isht.

btw, im a hypocrit, i'll probably end up buying one of their kits too, but once i get it I'll turn around and sell the turbo to buy another from a more reputable source. probably do the same for the wg since those two are critical.

i'm not sure if ssautochrome sends 1/8bstp>ntp fittings but if they dont, I suggest you buy one before cross threading the oil sender threads. i've see pics of broken off chunks/cracks when the proper fitting isnt used

[Craving4Boost]

Jus wondering...where did u get those clear tail lights..i wanna do the same hehe

[Kr0n1k]

craving, those are from http://www.clearcorners.comwtb240, if the turbo is properly suppported, will that prevent the manifold from cracking?

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Craving4Boost: I did those Tail lights at home.. what I did was use a Heat gun . Heated up the orange lense and use a Flat headed Screw Driver and pry it out.. then I got some Clear florescence light cover at Home Depot for $5. Cut it out with a Dremal and then used a Machine Grinder to grind it down to the right size and shape then I silicon it in for a nice and tight seal.

wtb240: well I dont have alot of money and i'm a Student I'm just trying to modify my car with the Best Bang for Bucks.. Everyone had there opinion and I appreciate your opinion

[Craving4Boost]

hmm 300$ or 5$...man its to hard to decide. i guess ill go with 5$ haha. sounds kinda tricky but ill take a shot at it

[Kr0n1k]

yea i think im gonna use 2d-ink's method too... $5 is definetly better than $300

[ka24det-power]

I am using the SS Mani and I have had no issues. However, just from my experiance with Honda's I new to weld a support bracket on to the down pipe so that you take the stress off of the manifold. About 1/2 the way down the downpipe weld a tab that goes on to one of the transmission bolts.

Problem solved.

[Redline240]

I am using the SS Mani and I have had no issues. However, just from my experiance with Honda's I new to weld a support bracket on to the down pipe so that you take the stress off of the manifold. About 1/2 the way down the downpipe weld a tab that goes on to one of the transmission bolts.

Problem solved.

Hows the manifold fit?

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[ka24det-power]

Pro's: Solid construction, heavy gauge steel, welds penetrate well, fits T3 and T4, supports ext wastegate, comes with ALL the gaskets you need, and does have support bracket.

Con's: two of the bottom bolts are kind of a bi*ch to get too, the turbo mounting flange angles out more that I care for - makes for plenty of room for a big turbo but puts it a little close the the brake res.

Over all for $174 - $200 there isn't a manifold that even comes close to as good of a deal. The only other mani I would consider is the Top Hat Performance cast iron mani that they sell for $200. It is a log style so it won't flow as well but it is cheap!

[crzycav86]

Over all for $174 - $200 there isn't a manifold that even comes close to as good of a deal. The only other mani I would consider is the Top Hat Performance cast iron mani that they sell for $200. It is a log style so it won't flow as well but it is cheap!

Or you can go cheaper and get jgs's log manifold when they're on sale for $120 Plus, when you get to weld it yourself, you don't have as many fitment issues.

[Redline240]

I noticed that the ebay auction doesn't mention the downpipe....or am i just seeing it wrong?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33742

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[slide240slide]

I don't see any mention of a downpipe in that Ad. I think im personally gonna hold out on that kit and buy the Boostdesigns Stage 3 kit so i have it all plus i think it's a better deal in the long run because you have to go ahead and freshen up the motor and bore it to fit the new pistons and rodsand have a solid foundation. (hell i'll go ahead and knife-edge the crank while it's out!) But i understand if a guy is low on dough and wants to "get by" with what he can throw together! (I know ive been there done that!)it's just that by the time you figure up alot of other parts that have to be purchased (Fuel pump, injectors, FMS, Intercooler, etc.) your gonna have close to 2 grand in that setup and on a stock internal motor to boot. Know what i mean Vern?

[2d-ink]

Redline240: Yeah I've notice that it doesnt say anything about a down pipe but I got one with my kit. so maybe you would get one in your kit if you order one.

slide240slide: I understand what you mean but I got some Free SR20Det Injectors and a bud of mine just gave me his used SAFC for Christmas so the only thing I figure I need to buy is a Fuel pump

[slide240slide]

Heck if you already have most of the parts then go for it man!

[DRIFTEADOR]

did you remove that strap from the head flange to the turbo flange? it actually does more harm than good; it puts more stress on the manifold by not allowing it to expand. dremel it off, brace the dp/turbo, and you should be good.

[Redline240]

did you remove that strap from the head flange to the turbo flange? it actually does more harm than good; it puts more stress on the manifold by not allowing it to expand. dremel it off, brace the dp/turbo, and you should be good.

I don't see how that makes sense...cut off that support just add another? If that support will not "allow it to expand" then how will another brace from the turbo to another fixed point work any different? Lets say the manifold does expand, if the turbo is braced then the manifold will be under stress at the turbo flange...i'm sorry but your way off on this one mister "want to buy a 240"

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[ka24det-power]

I agree, if the stainless steel expands contracts from hot cold the whole thing will expand including the support bracket. This would only (possibly) pose and issue if the support bracket was a diffrent type of metal (someting that expands contracts at a diffrent rate).

[240sxOwner]

Would you guys recommend the E-manage or Safc II to run fuel...And if you run it non intercooled with stock injectors for now, what would be expected performance wise. A walbro fuel pump would also be added.

[DRIFTEADOR]

whats with the hostility

i guess i should've clarified...yes, the head and turbo flanges, as well as the brace connecting them, are not made of ss like the runners. when the runners want to expand outward, away from the block, the brace will not allow it. a proper brace will hold the turbo in place so that it will not drop if the manifold is removed but still allows play in the direction opposite to the turbo with little force.

^edit: i may be wrong regarding these newer manifolds. their old ones were. I know because i owned one. I guess you'll find out in a few hundred miles if it rusts, either way you'll need additional bracing

240sxowner, e-manage because with the support tool you also have control of ign timing

[Redline240]

So what the hell would you mount the support bracket too? If not the engine itself then what? I'm sorry, but i don't see mounting it to anything but the flanges themselves...

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[ka24det-power]

For everyones info the new SS Mani's all stainless steel.

I put an additional support bracket on the downpipe where it runs next to the transmission. (Using the second to bottom bolt)

[DRIFTEADOR]

you will want to mount it to the engine/transmission, it needs to move with the motor when it torques, not from flange to flange. that strap isn't supporting the weight of the turbo, the manifold is.

[Redline240]

But if you connect it to the engine or transmission how will it allow for manifold expansion any more than if it was mounted to a flange bolted to the engine...then you'd have to just bolt it somewhere else and have more stuff cluttering up the engine bay, i still dissagree that there's anyway better than mounting it flange to flange...

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[rap1404]

im planning on buying one of these kits to and...sorry for my ignorance becuase im new at this but what else do i need to install this turbo kit on my ka? thanksreinaldo

[SoCalSilvia]

im planning on buying one of these kits to and...sorry for my ignorance becuase im new at this but what else do i need to install this turbo kit on my ka? thanksreinaldo

I bought this kit as well, and what else you will need depends on how much power you want to put down. In addition to this kit, I will be getting an intercooler with piping, intake with intake piping, walbro fuel pump, Vortech FMU, turbo timer, and gauges. Probably some other things too that I'm forgetting.

[DRIFTEADOR]

But if you connect it to the engine or transmission how will it allow for manifold expansion any more than if it was mounted to a flange bolted to the engine...then you'd have to just bolt it somewhere else and have more stuff cluttering up the engine bay, i still dissagree that there's anyway better than mounting it flange to flange...

Redline

it should work against gravity by preventing up/down movement yet allowing back/forth movement. be creative. sipmle idea would be a vertical piece of metal with a moving pivot

[AustinSilvia]

you know this EXACT, word for word, (i mean almost verbatim!!!) discussion has occurred on these forums only about 100 handfulls of times. (minus the taillight insert)