SSAutochrome SUCKS!!

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I got their tublar exhaust manifold. It looks great... everyint was going alright on the install... Just a couple normal PITA snags... Till i go to put the stock turbo elbow on...

IT DOESN"T CLEAR THE F'IN transmission!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm so pissed... I've spent all day on this thing and now i have to take it all the way back apart!! I already left them good ebay feedback too!! DAMIT!!!

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

dude if you'd have searched or asked I could have told you it dosn't fit.

Try getting the Greddy outlet elbow, or you can cut a chunk out of the bellhousing.

PaulOrlando, FL

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Thanks a bit late man

Have you seen the greddy outlet fit or is it speculation?

If i go back to the stock manifold the greddy elbow hits the steering column doesn't it?

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

greddy works with the stock manifold, and I know it works with a GT25R on the SS autochrome manifold as well.

I've seen both settups with my own eyes so I know it's not bull****. Plus it's an honest 15-20hp gain so what's not to like? There are useually some decient HKS knockoff's on Ebay pretty cheap. I'd assume (and I do mean ***-U-ME) that it would fit just the same as the greddy.

Paul

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

alright man thanks! as always!

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I can tell you from personal experience that the HKS knockoffs on ebay, also offered by SSAutochrome do not clear the steering shaft with a stock T25 turbo. I took it off and evenly BANGED the wastegate dump and if fits O.K. now. I can still feel it rub sometimes but not too bad.

-Jay

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

OK then probibly the HKS style dump tubes are designed to go with the manifold because the manifold puts the dump tube closer to the transmission. They are sending me one so i'll let you guys know how it works out.

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Please do let us know how it works out.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I was thinking about staying with the stock manifold but going with the HKS knockoff elbows. Think it'll clear with S14 w/s13 sr20det?

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

not sure about s14. It may or may not hit your steering shaft.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

hehe.. I like those odds.. Might, might not.. Would the real HKS one be more likely to clear it? It does not cost much more. Project silvia has it for like $220.

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I know it won't clear on an S13. If the SSAutochrome is a replica of the HKS, then I'm sure the HKS won't fit on the S13. I can't be sure on the S14. The safe bet would be to go with the Greddy two chamber turbo elbow. It has been known to fit with no problems. It is also cheaper then the HKS.

Post by **loudbay** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

i got the ssautochrome manifold and the greddy turbo extension, and they fit great..... well, a little tight, but it fits.

Post by **Jsquared** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

if you're going to the expense and effort of changing the exhaust manifold, why the crap are you going to leave your turbo outlet stock?

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

becasue some of us like to do things one part at a time so we can report to our fellow nicophites what kinda gains we felt with one part. (JUST an manifold for instance) Plus my manifold to turbo gasket was bad so i figured if i had the manifold off anyway i may as well replace the thing...

I'm doing them both now. I should get the elbow in a couple days. I'm autoXing this weekend so hopefully next weekend i can let you guys know how the manifold + elbow fits.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Pay no attention. When freshalloy has problems, Nico usually gets trolled...and recently, they've been having problems.

I for one am glad you found this stuff out and am keeping an eye on this thread to see how things work out for you. Keep us updated!

Post by **Jsquared** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

trolled? no, I'm just sick of crap information.

Seriously, what the crap is the point of doing just a manifold without the turbo outlet? Turbo outlet should have been done first if anything (I'm talking normal upgrade path, not for some of the mentioned instances like might-as-well since the gasket went or something... in which case you should just do both :pface)

Post by **Dori Dori** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I don't think it's crap info at all. Either way, I'm not going to fight about our opinions on the relevance of the info of this thread. You think it's crap, fine. Have a nice day.

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Jsquared wrote:trolled? no, I'm just sick of crap information.

Seriously, what the crap is the point of doing just a manifold without the turbo outlet? Turbo outlet should have been done first if anything (I'm talking normal upgrade path, not for some of the mentioned instances like might-as-well since the gasket went or something... in which case you should just do both :pface)

I will not justify your statements with an answer. If you are going to post a sophomoric comment please do so in other peoples threads.

Thanks.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Is there any real performance gain to be realized with just a tube manifold?

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

probably not without an upgraded elbow since the elbow is really your bottle neck. The cast manifold has proven to be efficient for a good amount of horsepower.

Post by **Supafly** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

240SXer wrote:Is there any real performance gain to be realized with just a tube manifold?

power wise, maybe a little. the real gain in a tube manifold is spoolup (at least in a properly designed tube manifold). make more power earlier and you've increased the area under your power curve which is generally better than just a peak power gain.

Post by **Jsquared** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

Quote »Is there any real performance gain to be realized with just a tube manifold?[/quote]Quote » probably not without an upgraded elbow since the elbow is really your bottle neck. [/quote]this is the point I was trying to get across before my a$$ got in the way

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I agree that theoretically there shouldn't be mutch gain with just the manifold but noone does that... Figured i'de try it. Now i'll have to do both. I'll let you guys know...

BTW Jsquared you got all your cool points back for being laid back enough to say that

Post by **Jsquared** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

hehe, sometimes (ok ok, almost always) forget that the way I argue and joke in person does not translate to text too well :bash

:greenboun

Post by **ride4lame** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

sometimes people don't want to pay 200 for an elbow if they plan a turbo upgrade down the line....

Post by **Jsquared** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

If they are going to have a turbo upgrade down the line that needs a different elbow, it will also need a different inlet flange...

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:36 pm

I paid 99 for my HKS knock-off and it is re-usable if I go with a GT25R turbo and several other aftermarket turbos. The only turbos where I can't see the re-usability may be the T3/T4 setup with top mount.

SSAutochrome SUCKS!!

SSAutochrome SUCKS!!

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