SSAutochrome Manifold Problems

[WDRacing]

Here's a link to pics of the manifold on my car, 95 240sx SE.http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....=3025

The turbo won't even come close to the T3 mount holes. It simply won't clear the master cylinder. I've tried it 15 different times thinking perhaps I was doing it wrong. I've been doing this along time and working on helicopters for 11 years. My neighbor, who's in the same profession also said there's simply no way. This is a standard Garret T3 .63 AR turbine. Sorry for the crappy pics, its only a $100 digi cam I use for deployments.

Kyle, As I said above, I didn't buy this manifold from you. I bought it from turbo calculator. But it came in a SSA Box and looks exactly like the one your selling in the EBAY GB.

In two of the pics you can see the runners poking into the collector.

WD

[klattr1]

WD, so you are using a 4 bolt turbine housing?Those have worse clearance compared to a 5bolt turbonetics style housing.Also, do you have ABS?

[ka24detkyle]

Chandler, my email is [email protected]

Let me know if i can help you.

As a matter of fact i'm in Charlotte a lot so maybe i can bring one to you to check out?

Kyle

i trust ya kyle, heck if ya give me your email, I just might come up and see the manifold when I get the money, I live down in charlotte, and by the way, nice car

[Projex240]

it seems as though he is using a 4 bolt flange. I havent seen a 4 bolt garret flange in a while as the 5 botls are standard now. I dont know why--but the 5 bolt i have looks much smaller due to the flange being slightly under the turbo more than his 4 bolt appears to be. Also--my non-abs MC seems to be ALOT smaller than his--i guess well see. I get mine tomorrow, but it will be a couple of days til i get mine test fitted--klattr, i guess we can do it on thursday evening.Tha turbing housing looks like a T4 to me--my housing looks considerable smaller--and mine is a stage 3 .63 turbonetics

I really need to get this one test fitted.

[ka24detkyle]

Projex240sx: Thanks for the IM...hope we worked it all out.

Kyle

IM glad you respondedI just want to clarify---I dont think you are involved with a manfiold that isnt fitting--I know that it is a turbo calc mani that is the problem. The only thing i was conerned about is that i saw the pics of the manifold ont he plan b attack page and they looked like the sam emanifold. If ssa has a better one--then by all means--i would LOVE to buy that one. I tried to get in contact with you like 5 times. but i couldnt get a response. I dont think you are associated with the bad fitting manifolds--i bought mine from a diff dealer cuz i couldnt reach you--but i saw that you had fitted a manifold which appeard to be the same as the one i ordered. If i was given wrong info--im sorry. I didnt mean to amke it out to seem that i held you responsible or even involved at all. I still wan to get the manifold form you ASAP. I emailed SSA 4 times, and they never returned my email. I talked to xs-power, which i was told was the same as SSA--but again, must have been wrong info, adn they did not email me back ro callme back. I wanted to ge the mani from you BAD--but i never got a response. Help me out if you can--i have a small amount of time to see if mine fits, then i have to go through the battle of returning this to turbo calc without getting screwed out of a restocking fee even though it is a faulty product.

SO long story short--if it seemed that i was putting your name into the manifold i bought, it wasnt like that--i only meant o say that you manifold looked to be different in the pics you showed the fitment vs the ones that showed the manifold outsde the car. Please email me ASAP so we can do some bussiness.

Thanks kyle, and again--sorry to have seemed pissed at you--it wasnt like that at all. I want to do bussiness with you due to the great responses ive gotten from you in the past.

Thanks,

Josh

[email protected]

[ka24detkyle]

I just looked at your pictures and that housing looks odd. Is it a T3 .82 or a T4 by chance. It looks nothing like the 5 bolt turbonetics .63 turbine we tested it with.

Kyle

Here's a link to pics of the manifold on my car, 95 240sx SE.http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....=3025

The turbo won't even come close to the T3 mount holes. It simply won't clear the master cylinder. I've tried it 15 different times thinking perhaps I was doing it wrong. I've been doing this along time and working on helicopters for 11 years. My neighbor, who's in the same profession also said there's simply no way. This is a standard Garret T3 .63 AR turbine. Sorry for the crappy pics, its only a $100 digi cam I use for deployments.

Kyle, As I said above, I didn't buy this manifold from you. I bought it from turbo calculator. But it came in a SSA Box and looks exactly like the one your selling in the EBAY GB.

In two of the pics you can see the runners poking into the collector.

WD

[Projex240]

yeah man--were good--still wating on WD--id like to get that part number on his turbine and look it up

-josh

[:: orion ::]

WD...your '95 SE have ABS?

If so, that adds a bunch of fitment problems...

Just FYI...

- Brian

[Projex240]

thats what im thinking--that abs MC looks MUCH bigger than mine.I went outside with a flashlight just to check. Im hoping it will fit ok--like i said though-tomorrow will tell hopefully.

[WDRacing]

ABS gives fitment problems, I knew that going in, I just didn't figure this bad. I wish I had a 4 bolt and 5 bolt to compare.

For the record, I'm not tyring to call out anyone for doing bad bussiness. However, any members who buy a turbo from CheapTurbo.com will run into the same fitment issues. Also ABS should be mentioned as well. So any and all sites who sell this manifold should correct the site to read exactly what turbo will fit. Especially noting the TO4 needs to be On Center.

I'm just going to return my manifold and build my own. I should have went that route to begin with.

WD

[Projex240]

i have the 5 bolt myself, and ill be test fitting it either today or tommorrow. Ill let everyone know. I agree--and i will be emailing the guy from turbocalc t elt him knwo that for his safety(form a business aspect of course) that he should be more descriptive. T04 on center turbine, if needed, should definately be noted on the item desc. as well as the abs and the 5 bolt configuration.

Of course--after that, theres a pretty limited customer base youll have.Wd--call turbocalc and talk to John. I told him i didnt plan on paying the resotkc fee--88 bucks is too much to hand over for a productt hat was misrepresented and you cant use. I paid overthe phone, and wasnt aware of the restock fee--so i cant be held accountable. If you bought online, their restock fee isnt posted anywhere on the site except the webform.

good luck!

-Josh

Wd--btw--ever thought of using a t04 on-center turbo? the sc61 can be gotten with a t4 footprint and can be had for on center.its not too bad at about 850 for the turbo--but its s precision unit, and makes gobs of power.

-Josh

[Chingon]

anyone w/similar problems w/this one?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33632

it just seems like an excellent choice w/perhaps a gtr28

[Projex240]

the bottom mount one is great--a few alreday have them--but i dont think the t28 or such is a good choice for a turbo on the KA--theres too much air flow. It chokes it out--now maybe something like a fp turbo. The 3055 or the 3065--those two from forced performance are AWESOME turbos on the dsm's.650 whp is acheivable

[Chingon]

^there's someone running a t-25 in a ka already making ~215 to the wheels. A t-28 would not choke the engine, but you'd be limited on your power output. The pros are a nice, fast spoolin powerband for circuit or drift racing.

[WDRacing]

i have the 5 bolt myself, and ill be test fitting it either today or tommorrow. Ill let everyone know. I agree--and i will be emailing the guy from turbocalc t elt him knwo that for his safety(form a business aspect of course) that he should be more descriptive. T04 on center turbine, if needed, should definately be noted on the item desc. as well as the abs and the 5 bolt configuration.

Of course--after that, theres a pretty limited customer base youll have.Wd--call turbocalc and talk to John. I told him i didnt plan on paying the resotkc fee--88 bucks is too much to hand over for a productt hat was misrepresented and you cant use. I paid overthe phone, and wasnt aware of the restock fee--so i cant be held accountable. If you bought online, their restock fee isnt posted anywhere on the site except the webform.

good luck!

-Josh

Wd--btw--ever thought of using a t04 on-center turbo? the sc61 can be gotten with a t4 footprint and can be had for on center.its not too bad at about 850 for the turbo--but its s precision unit, and makes gobs of power.

-Josh

I've been talking to Jon for 2 months about various projects, so he's well aware of my turbo problems.

I've got 3 turbo's in my shop already, I'm not buying another one just to see if it'll fit. Not to mention the On Center turbo's don't flow as much. Which is the only reason I'm going with a TO4E .81 AR hot side.

WD

[TrunkMonkey]

Not to mention the On Center turbo's don't flow as much. Which is the only reason I'm going with a TO4E .81 AR hot side.

you only lose 1-2% of flow with an on center turbine.

-demetrius

[TrunkMonkey]

If people are gonna associate me with bad fitting manifolds then email me directly and i'll see what i can do.

my apologies. it wasn't my intention to imply that you sold a bad product. whenever the SSA manifold is brought up you're the first and only person/vendor that comes to mind since you've been the one who has answered my questions in the past, and you're the one i'd be purchasing from.

-demetrius

[WDRacing]

Atleast Kyle is quick to reply to emails and willing to right any situation he may or may not even be involved in.

Can I have 1-2% of your paycheck Demcj? It's not very much...heh.

[TrunkMonkey]

Atleast Kyle is quick to reply to emails and willing to right any situation he may or may not even be involved in.

amen to that.

Can I have 1-2% of your paycheck Demcj? It's not very much...heh.

neither is my paycheck.

-demetrius

[mys13240]

hey WDRacing

i was reading this thread, Turbo fitment problem

orion Had the fitment porblem with a s14 with abs. he swapped the brake booster out from a non-abs s14 and his turbo and manifold fit.

maybe that would fix your problem with you ssa manifold.

[Projex240]

I saw that a while back too.

WD--those three turbos cant go on one car at the same time-if you want to go with one turbo, then get one that wil work with that manifold. You dont lose too much flow with that turbo--and i SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone here will see the full flow potential of a t04e with an .81 hot side anyway. I mean--Supras make almost 600 to the wheels on boostalone using these. (,81 though=laggy machine) Not that its overkill, just hat you could afford to sacrifice the 1% since youll have an equal length manifold that will make up for the power loss over a log style that most make for themselves.Three turbos--sell em.Im sure the money you make form them would be MORE than enought o buy yourself an oncenter turbine with teh same specs.

on a another note.

I got my manifld yesterday. I bilted the turbo, and wastegate to it, andwhile i didnt bolt it tot hem head, i set it on top of my header to get a slight idea of the fitment of the manifold with the MC. Ill be honest--it looks like till fit without a problem at all.I wont be able to tell though until tomight when I pull the header off and bolt the manifol to the head.

Im thinking this will turn out alright.

-Josh