I just think these guys are hilarious, I've never seen a single guy on here post a fact, and for whatever reason they love to bash on 350s...for whatever reason they're convinced base model 350s cost in the 30ks, maybe I was mistaken when I saw 3 at my local dealership for 27 and under? Anyhow just thought some of you might enjoy this...
http://srtforums.com/forums/sh...pp=15
SRT Forum Strikes again
I'm not going to bash the SRT-4. I cannot deny that the car is a great value. I know it's still a NEON, but, hey, for $19000 it's a good buy. I hate FWD, but, those cars can be made fast pretty easily just like those old I-Roc Daytonas. As far as the Z is concerned, well, I got flamed once for saying what I thought about it. My opinion still stands, I just don't like it. That's all I am going to say about the Z.
can you not subtract??? 26,000-20,995= 5,005. That's about $125 more per month. Why on Earth would you want a base model Z?? 287HP eh?? Have you driven a Z or seen one race anything.....or have you raced one?? Sure doesn't look like 287HP to me. Darn, there I go, did I mention I don't like the Z?? I'm no fan of Dodge, but, I think that they have done well with the Neon considering I can name about 5 of them locally with a stage 1 kit. BTW, in 2 months you can buy an '05 Mustang GT with 300hp for less than that base model Z.
I agree on the RWD part, but, I cant stand the Z.....I'd have to buy an '05 Mustang. Maybe the '06 Pontiac Solstice and the Chevy Cobalt will be good cars. They are going to be RWD (at least, I know the Solstice is, I THINK the Cobalt is and it will be out in a few months) and cost in the low 20's. The Cobalt SS has a 205HP SC 2.0 ECOTEC. There are already tons of parts for that engine too. So, the SRT-4 will have some competition soon I guess.
LoL Cory...26-21 is 5, I'll give you that, but if I don't know how to count, you don't know how to read...people on their forums are bragging about getting them for 2k OVER msrp, meaning 3 grand more. No I wouldn't pay that much for a car that doesn't impress me very much...its a good bang for the buck car off the bat, but most of them are running low-even 14's stock, gasp the same time as the z does it, but with less prestige, image, more unreliability, etc etc. And maybe they sell for msrp in your area, but I live in one of the largest areas in the country, demand is pretty darn high around here, but regardless of where you are, I'm telling you that I see messages on the srt forums saying stuff like "sweet I got my srt for only 21-23 thousand!" all the time. The people on the forum at least that have paid near msrp are somewhat in the minority. Hehe and they have a video of one of their members at the track, he got up to speed, then when he applied brakes at the end of his run.....they burst into flames lol. It was quite possibly the best thing I'd ever seen.
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Well your not just paying for an engine, your also paying for a nice interior and a sportsy car. Im sorry but the Z looks a hell of a lot better than an SRT4. In the early 90's a 300ZX TT was upwards in the 30's and 40's dollar range and you got less horsepower than the 350Z and now you can get one for just around 27k! I think that is a dam good deal and the majority of the people don't tune cars as well.I mean how cheesy is it to have the manual windows in the backseat but electric ones in the front?Nissan is doing something right since there 350's sell like hot cakes but yet SRT4's arent. There goal isn't trying to impress tuners as much as the general population. but I do respect your opinion though..they do have one mean engine output but my choice I would pick a 350 anyday.
I'd have to say that the SRT-4 is a great deal for the power that you get and is currently getting good reviews, but the car is an amalgamation of sudden popularity of street racing, and car tuning from the "The Fast and the Furious" films. The 350Z comes from a lineage of sports cars and like all Z's will probably become a classic. I cant envision myself even seeing myself say "Whoa, check out that SRT-4! that guy knows a good car." in 10 years.
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Like I said, I know the SRT-4 is "just a NEON" it will ALWAYS be a NEON. BUT, I've read about these cars putting down some great HP numbers with few mods. I've seen a Stage 1 beat a Z28 on the highway pretty bad. I'm sorry, but, you gotta think of how people will fell when they get whipped by "just a NEON"....LOL. I'll say again, the Z is not for me. It looks like a turtle.
Understeer yes (with some throttle lift induced oversteer) but torque steer no. Despite the insane amount of power that little car puts to the front wheels, there's very little torque steer. You obviously have not driven or even been inside an SRT-4.k6kicker wrote:if you could make a neon that was fast in a stright line and didnt understeer/torque steer like a pig call me....untill then, z car
Anyway, I could easily find an SRT-4 for MSRP or less. It would probably be more difficult to find a base 350Z than it would be an SRT-4 for MSRP in my area. I've seen tons of Track and Enthusiast models, but no base model Z's.
Anyway, the SRT-4 offers a ton of power, a Quaife LSD (as opposed to the Z's viscous unit) and a pretty nice interior, IMO. Sure, it's not a VW or BMW level of interior fit and finish but it's pretty cool looking and feels solid.
BTW, anyone who thinks the lack of power rear windows is an issue completely misses the point of this car. I'd imagine these same people probably don't "get" the Lancer EVO RS. What do you mean no radio or AC for $27,000 ?
BadMojo wrote:Understeer yes (with some throttle lift induced oversteer) but torque steer no. Despite the insane amount of power that little car puts to the front wheels, there's very little torque steer. You obviously have not driven or even been inside an SRT-4.
Anyway, I could easily find an SRT-4 for MSRP or less. It would probably be more difficult to find a base 350Z than it would be an SRT-4 for MSRP in my area. I've seen tons of Track and Enthusiast models, but no base model Z's.
Anyway, the SRT-4 offers a ton of power, a Quaife LSD (as opposed to the Z's viscous unit) and a pretty nice interior, IMO. Sure, it's not a VW or BMW level of interior fit and finish but it's pretty cool looking and feels solid.
BTW, anyone who thinks the lack of power rear windows is an issue completely misses the point of this car. I'd imagine these same people probably don't "get" the Lancer EVO RS. What do you mean no radio or AC for $27,000 ?
i didn't know power went to the rear windows. Must be something new.
w1ngzer0 wrote:i didn't know power went to the rear windows. Must be something new.
Yeah, they have this new thing where your lazy *** passengers don't have to turn a handle to get the side windows to go up and down. It's amazing.
I hear they're coming out with this cool new technology called FM Radio too. I just hope they don't invent anything that will make the 8-Track player in my Pinto obsolete.
What I dont understand is how a Boosted Neon gets compared to 350z?
I guess Im from the old school.
Yes, the neon does offer a good amount of power for the price. But its a one trick pony. HP for the straight line.
Thats it.
A 350 is a much more refined vehice that offers RWD, superb styling, and NISSAN quality. It goes great on the twistys and in a straight line.
To me 8k or so difference seems reasonable for the MUCH better car.
Case Closed.
I guess Im from the old school.
Yes, the neon does offer a good amount of power for the price. But its a one trick pony. HP for the straight line.
Thats it.
A 350 is a much more refined vehice that offers RWD, superb styling, and NISSAN quality. It goes great on the twistys and in a straight line.
To me 8k or so difference seems reasonable for the MUCH better car.
Case Closed.