sr20goofus...and others who were planning on running SE-R cup

[nismofly]

what do you think youre going to do now...ST1 or 2?

im thinking most 240s will end up in ST1 but im wondering how competitive theyll be in there, ill be watching the results from this season closely because big parts of my build will be happening next winter, and i want to know if ill need to limit myself to get into ST2 or if i have to go all out to run ST1

i know theres people (at least goofus) who are farther ahead on their builds than i am, im kind of interested to hear what you guys think youll be doing

[nismofly]

and i suppose the other option of course would be to run high end PT, A or even B

i think it all depends on the power youre making and the amount of stuff you want to do

[sr20goofus]

just saw this post...sorry for the delayed response.

in order to stay in PTA or even PTB, minimal modifications are needed, suspension, some tuning, cage, brakes, stock engine, etc. Keep things as minimally modfiied as possible as you might make it into PTA with stock turbo making max of 250whp....

if you run ST2 or ST1 you can run TONS of mods to make yourself way more competative with vetts porches vipers and such, all of wich end up being MUCH heavier than a fully prepped 240. odds are tho with the things you want to modify to make your car as competative you can stay in ST2 with lower power and kinda light weight, or go all out with power and get into ST1 and make it really hard on yourself, but the power you have against alot of the other prepped cars wont compare unless you consider your weight, in which case we are still benefiting.

its a tough call, im slowly accepting the facts that im goin to be in ST1 no matter what, it wil lbe greta competition, and alway being beat give you more to strive for instead of always being the fastest. Car can be more prepared is the bottom line, for the ST classes is the power:weight ratio thats determins your classing, not all the tiny stupid mods like i then PT classing (bushings, compresison, cams, control arms, aero work, tuning, brakes).

i hope this has been helpful, cause in teh end build your car how you want to if you plan to run ST classes,then just adjust power approprietly until you can be in which ever clas syou want. 400whp in ST1 or 280whp in ST2, its easier to adjust power with boost controler than it is to de-mod a car in my opinion.

[nismofly]

i think what i may end up doing is starting off with an s15 turbo set around 280-ish and run ST2 while i work the rest of the car over, then the last thing ill do is come back through and get a bigger turbo to bump me up to ST1, then see what it takes to be competitive there

the advantage i have to an extent is to be able to build my car for ST from the start, whereas im pretty sure some of the stuff youve already done will be penalized more now than it wouldve been if SE-R cup had still been around

ill definately be looking forward to how you and other northeast people running the new classes run with different setups, seeing as itll be a couple years before my car will be ready to go, and ill be able to see what works and build that into my car from the start

even then im not sure ill have enough HPDE time behind me to get my comp license, so well see

looking forward to running with you though

[sr20goofus]

the only thing really affecting me as of now is my raised compression, which i plan to bring up even mroe in the future. my suspension is VERY basic, brakes are upgraded, tuning is stock (maybe selling my EMS), S15 turbo, stock injectors and fuel everything, aftermarket IC, wider wheels.

odds are i will build my car very conservatively, cage and suspension will be my main focuses, once those are done ill boost my power up to around 300 with my S15 turbo and by that point ill be around applying for my comp license. And if i am at the but end of ST1 and cant make my way into ST2, then ill just do what it takes to get do the higher end of ST1 by loosing more weight and adding power....

keeping it simple at first with the exact suspension and cage setup i want, see what my weight is..then plan power out from there....all the cages will be added througout time to give me time to adjust to the car after each mod. I am thinking suspension this summer, but we will see what funds allow in comparison to the more track time that i so eagerly want.

[corey240]

i was thinking of runing my s14 in st2, keeping it around the 280mark or so. like he said that leaves room to work the good stuff over and not worry about being the power god of the class. im gona keep close watch on the cars and set-ups.

[nismofly]

i like the fact that the rest of the car is free mods wise as long as you stay within pwr:wt requirements

more than likely ill start off running ST2, then gradually gather the extra parts id need to be competitive in ST1, then after all that id come back and sweep through the engine

i figure 280 - 285 will be the most power youll be able to run in ST2, whereas youd be allowed like 450 in ST1, quite the gap

[corey240]

thats a big gap lol

[sr20goofus]

well the poitn of have that gap even is to giv epeopel a more compettive chance outside of just a big SU class where 700hp cars could run with 200hp cars that couldnt find another class to run...ntow at leats everyone has a better chance....and 400+whp in a 240 on track....thats alot to handle....in a car much lighter than most other high HP cars which tend to be the V8 guys.