SR20deTT can be put in Versa?!

[loyd87]

Someone said to me that I can put an SR20deTT in my V

I want your opinion on this!

It is possible to do?!

And if someone know where I can do it.

Thanks a lot!

[AZhitman]

That "someone" is not a car guy.

1) No such engine.

2) Anything can be made to fit in anything with enough work.

SR20DET was in RWD Silvia (S13/S14) and certain FWD configurations, but neither chassis is even CLOSE to resembling a Versa.

Easier to boost the OEM Versa engine.

[lain]

That "someone" is not a car guy.

SR20DET was in RWD Silvia (S13/S14) and certain FWD configurations, but neither chassis is even CLOSE to resembling a Versa.

Easier to boost the OEM Versa engine.

Not completly true. If you want you can get the SR20det from the Nissan Pulsars. They are FWD and will fit with little work (could be alot for you don't know how much you know about engine swaps). You will need to replace the fuel pump and most likly go custom on a downpipe. Piping and everything else is fine. You will also need a custom air intake. Probably some custom work done on the engine harness. Most likly relocation of the battery.

It can be done. If I had the money and time...more on the money though...I would give it a shot. I'm sure there might be a chance you will need custom of the things that hold up the engine and transmission (can't believe I forgot the name of this).

[loyd87]

it is a 5 or 6 speed manual...?

and I found a SR20 from Pulsar GTiR but it written that is transmission AWD standard... it is normal?!

[lain]

There is a FWD and a AWD version. And its a 5 speed.

[WDRacing]

Um...how do you know the piping is all good? The mounts, sub frame etc will probably need to fabbed or modded. If you haven't actually put the SR20 into a Versa, then easy or little work are words that shouldn't be used.

I'm with Greg, boost the V motor.

[lain]

Its just a car...how hard can it be...its not like we are dealing with alegbra or something...

zeroforum?id=169

^^ That the forum on this website that talks about the FWD SR20's.

[WDRacing]

Have you not ever swapped a different motor into something? It aint easy...what if the oil pan hits the cross member, what if the steering rack hits the transmission...I could go on for hrs.

WD

[gtrisfun]

of course, anything is possible. now is that a realistic or reasonable swap, probably not.

after getting the motor and trans mounted (with fabbed motor mounts), probably new or fabbed axles, a custom harness and an ecu from a pulsar / 240, new brakes / rotors to fit on new axles, somehow getting an intercooler to fit behind the bumper, new radiator and slimline fans, possibly delete A/C, beef up mounting points and frame, fabbed piping, not getting rid of that annoying SES light, killing what remaining warranty you have, and a few other minor setbacks, i'm sure it would be child's play.

this is a very long debated topic among B15 owners. there is a guy who did a vq35de swap into a sentra se-r spec v, and has offered up a package deal to do the work, but its running around $6-8k. but the motor is built, and the pics look as if it were factory (with the Z engine cover). lots of people want it, but can't part with that kind of money, or have the expertise or resources to take on such a challenge.

try looking into going turbo or maybe wait to find out if there will be an se-r variant of the versa and see what engine nissan would drop in.

[Ever Victorious]

One other minor detail is that it is not legal by federal DOT regulations to install an engine into a car that was built for a chassis that is older than the chassis you are installing it into.

And since there are no CURRENT production US-spec (important detail!) vehicles with an SR20DET, you may not legally install it in a Versa. For street use.

So not only are you axing the warranty, your axing your legal ability to drive on US roads.

[loyd87]

anyway i'm canadian and in my province I have no rules like this I think. I got to watch it for sur... anyway I think that i keep my older idea for my V! thanks all! your answer help me!

[shreqboi909]

the sr20det is a great idea on the versa.

u would have to get the bluebird sr, but 4surr it would fit with some mods.

if u do just the stock swap it should run great for a while.

then again, u can swap a qr25de way easier and then just turbo it. it would fit like a glove, and im not talkin about the one in the oj trial.

[loyd87]

maybe a qr25ho too

[biggie]

Anyone actually tried to measure the engine options versus the engine bay? I'm guessing that almost all engine swaps are going to be tough because of space.

I've said it 1000 times. If you are looking for a perfermance car, find something else besides a Versa. Older cars will cause much less headaches to work on and improve. V is designed for a couple things, performance is not one of them.

[loyd87]

Anyone actually tried to measure the engine options versus the engine bay? I'm guessing that almost all engine swaps are going to be tough because of space.

I've said it 1000 times. If you are looking for a perfermance car, find something else besides a Versa. Older cars will cause much less headaches to work on and improve. V is designed for a couple things, performance is not one of them.

maybe but. V as several chance to be performant. It has the potential to be more performant...

[monkeybear]

maybe but. V as several chance to be performant. It has the potential to be more performant...

Not trying to rag on you but that is the worst grammar I have seen on this forum to date.

[Great White Versa]

Not trying to rag on you but that is the worst grammar I have seen on this forum to date.

As bad as that was, I've seen worse... I kind of think I know what he was trying to say

[AZhitman]

That "someone" is not a car guy.

1) No such engine.

2) Anything can be made to fit in anything with enough work.

SR20DET was in RWD Silvia (S13/S14) and certain FWD configurations, but neither chassis is even CLOSE to resembling a Versa.

Easier to boost the OEM Versa engine.

I stand by my original post, and have swapped enough motors to know exactly why I said it.

The two chassis are so different, it's not a practical or reasonable solution.

[redtop91]

One other minor detail is that it is not legal by federal DOT regulations to install an engine into a car that was built for a chassis that is older than the chassis you are installing it into.

And since there are no CURRENT production US-spec (important detail!) vehicles with an SR20DET, you may not legally install it in a Versa. For street use.

I'm going to have to say that this is wrong as well. People have S13 SR's in their S14's and drive all day everyday legally. The only guideline that would prevent it is emissions.

So not only are you axing the warranty, your axing your legal ability to drive on US roads.

Incorrect. Motor swaps are legal to drive on roads. The only issue you'll have is passing emissions in the state you plan to drive it in, if it even has emissions guidelines. The most immediate problems that you'll run into is the Versa transmission will not be up to the task in most cases. You will need to modify pretty much the entire front subframe and steering and judging by the size of the Versa engine bay clearancing the engine, turbo and manifold and radiator will be difficult, possibly impossible. You will likely need to run a remote mount turbo. The SR ECU most likely cannot read from the Versa's speed sensor so your dash is unlikely to work, not to mention any supplementary systems outside of the car just running. That being said, SR FTW and if you pull it off that'd be awesome.
Modified by redtop91 at 4:28 PM 12/13/2007

[themadscientist]

If you have

1. all the skills to do it yourself or access to someone who does

2. the tools and facilities to perform the work

3. the money required to complete the project

than anything is possible. If you don't have all three then your dead in the water. The Versa is not a performance car. Just forcing a powerful engine into, even if you can pull it off is not enough. The shell will likely need serious reinforcement and the suspension and braking system must be addressed as well. Go is not nearly as important as whoa. If you have inadequate power you can work on it and come back next week if you have inadequate braking and suspension you might not be back next week.

[Ever Victorious]

I'm going to have to say that this is wrong as well. People have S13 SR's in their S14's and drive all day everyday legally. The only guideline that would prevent it is emissions.

Not knowing the first thing about 240SXes (nor having any particular desire to learn anything about them, as I am not likely to ever own one in my life because of how ridiculously expensive they are), I will have to defer to you on knowledge of the engines themselves.

In places where emissions don't exist, yeah you can probably get away with it all day long.

My state you would fail and be ticketed if you attempted to drive the vehicle of the emissions lot. Even if the car passed emissions itself, it would fail OBD II testing (misregistered computer) and probably visual as well.. And we haven't even adopted CA emissions yet... that comes in 3 years.

I've known of several other people (Subaru owners, not Nissan) in PA, NY, and CT who were ticketed for having EA71 or EA81 engines in their EA82 chassised vehicles. And these were all before the widespread deployment of computers and fuel injection.

So perhaps the happy middle ground is "check your local regulations". It MAY be legal. It may just as easily be illegal.

Or, to save the headache, find a way to boost or build up the stock engine. Far less wiring and emissions crap to worry about, anyway.

[redtop91]

Or, to save the headache, find a way to boost or build up the stock engine. Far less wiring and emissions crap to worry about, anyway.

Agreed. CP makes custom pistons so someone would have to spec the pistons and get custom pistons make. Custom grind cams are always a phone call away, as is a custom turbo manifold and I dunno how beefy a Versa Rod is, but if a KA can handle low boost, anything can . Agreed though. Turbo'd Versa is more practical than engine swap.

[Ever Victorious]

Agreed. CP makes custom pistons so someone would have to spec the pistons and get custom pistons make. Custom grind cams are always a phone call away, as is a custom turbo manifold and I dunno how beefy a Versa Rod is, but if a KA can handle low boost, anything can . Agreed though. Turbo'd Versa is more practical than engine swap.

I know a place that could probably make cro-moly rods, knife-edged cranks, etc... if they were needed.