sr20det swap?

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what is the average cost and what is needed exaclty to do a sr20 swap on a 1995 240sx???


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What the hell is a sr20det?

is it that thing that lights up?

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yea? sure ? whatever you say?

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but seriously, this question has been covered over and over and over and over and over.

Just google search it and you WILL find the awnsers to any questions you have

No need to be spoon fed right?


EDIT: You could also start looking for for some info as well
rwd-sr-faq-version-2-0-t306956.html

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Need some data from you before we can accurately answer that question.

1. Is your '95 S14 OBD 2?

2. Do you plan on daily driving it?

3. Is yours an auto or a manual?

4. Do you want an s13,s14, or s15 SR20DET?

5. Will you be doing all the work, or having the swap done for you?

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im new here trying to learn about the 240's but i appreciate your help

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Why you no answer my questions!?

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Fenris wrote:Need some data from you before we can accurately answer that question.

1. Is your '95 S14 OBD 2?

2. Do you plan on daily driving it?

3. Is yours an auto or a manual?

4. Do you want an s13,s14, or s15 SR20DET?

5. Will you be doing all the work, or having the swap done for you?

not sure about OBD 2?? yes daily driver, manual, and prob s14 or s15, and il have someone do it, thanks for the reply i really appreciate it

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vjuice602 wrote:what is the average cost and what is needed exaclty to do a sr20 swap on a 1995 240sx???

To start please don't take this as me being a smart a**.

In my 7 years of dealing with these cars I've never owned an sr
Why because I'm broke yes but it has given plenty of time to learn how the cars handle I've driven 3 difrent sr cars and I promise you unless you know exactly how these cars react to mild power first you will quickly find yourself in a curb

I do not know your history with driving or 240s
But by your question I doubt you know alot, so please make google your best friend, and search here the answers are there

Just drive it and enjoy it don't worry about swapping it until you are confident and don't have to ask such a basic question


Onto the ob1 and obd2 s14 up untill a certain months were obd1

The answer took less than a minute to find on google

"Check your o2 sensor if you have 1 sensor that has only 1 wire on it then its OBDI if there are 3-4 wires and you have 2 sensors (one before and after the pre-cat) then your OBDII"

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If your car is OBD2(manufacture date past 2/95) +, Daily +, manual -. s14/15 +, someone to do it +.. maybe... if really lucky 5-8K install price, with about 1000+ annual upkeep depending on location.

With an obd2 car and an SR swap the only way you are passing an inspection is paying the inspector off. OBD2 = plugin test, no SR is equipped with OBD2 stuff to test. In Florida? I hear they don't test for that stuff so no motor swap issues, Cali? good luck dude.

Rough as hell numbers:

S14 SR20: $2500-3500 Assuming $3000 (including shipping)
Wiring: $450
Fuel pump: $100
Labor: $800-1500 Assuming: $1000
Odds and ends tune up parts, parts missing from motor set: $750
FMIC: $300(ebay) - $2000(Super name brand) - Or side mount $200- $500. Assuming $750


Total of about $6050

Very big ball park of numbers... Also assuming your motorset is mostly complete and in good condition. Add another few hundred if you want guages so you know what your new pricy motor is doing so you can protect it.


My SR swap has cost me about $4000 into an s13 with and S13 SR turn key, cutting corners where ever i can. But i also am not going to be running stock levels and had my stock turbo manifold ceramic coated for teh spool time on my piddly T25.

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If you're not going to do the swap yourself and have no interest in doing it on your own, I would just buy an S14 that is already swapped. It's probably going to save you some cash compared to buying a car, engine swap and all the supporting parts, and paying a shop the labor to do the swap. That's my two cents...

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I would expect at least $4k for an s14 sr with an intercooler and wiring service. I just bought my second s14 sr and decided to buy one with an auto transmission. They have started popping up more and more lately and I highly suggest going that route. You'll be spending a nice penny more for flywheel, clutch, and 5spd transmission but imo it's worth it.

As someone already suggested, if you are new to the car just drive it around for a while. The stock motor is plenty to have a little fun with for a while. You don't want to throw more power into a car that you don't know how good or bad it handles

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So you of course have exhausted the KA24 and are only swapping the SR20 in because you have carefully weighed the advantages, arguable advantages, and have determined rendering your car virtually unregisterable, depending on your locale, and likely running out of money halfway through and reducing your previously running but "untyte" car into a "JDM" lawn ornament is easily counterbalanced by the aforementioned, NOT because you are mindlessly chasing the path blazed by years of mechanically inept parent-funded suburban fanboys who think a high score on their favorite PS3 driving game has prepared them to expand beyond driving straight and using a turn signal before deviating from that path?

Right?

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themadscientist wrote:So you of course have exhausted the KA24 and are only swapping the SR20 in because you have carefully weighed the advantages, arguable advantages, and have determined rendering your car virtually unregisterable, depending on your locale, and likely running out of money halfway through and reducing your previously running but "untyte" car into a "JDM" lawn ornament is easily counterbalanced by the aforementioned, NOT because you are mindlessly chasing the path blazed by years of mechanically inept parent-funded suburban fanboys who think a high score on their favorite PS3 driving game has prepared them to expand beyond driving straight and using a turn signal before deviating from that path?

Right?
Almost every one of your post is pure gold, please never change.

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themadscientist wrote:So you of course have exhausted the KA24 and are only swapping the SR20 in because you have carefully weighed the advantages, arguable advantages, and have determined rendering your car virtually unregisterable, depending on your locale, and likely running out of money halfway through and reducing your previously running but "untyte" car into a "JDM" lawn ornament is easily counterbalanced by the aforementioned, NOT because you are mindlessly chasing the path blazed by years of mechanically inept parent-funded suburban fanboys who think a high score on their favorite PS3 driving game has prepared them to expand beyond driving straight and using a turn signal before deviating from that path?

Right?

Based on these qualifications can i have my SR20? Ive been in the '240 scene' since 2003, have 2 so far, and have a massive heap of parts staring at me. I had a KA-E and my auto-x times were dreadful, and when driving mountains i would be passed on the uphill by a stiff breeze. I also drive 30k miles per year as part of work, and make sure to use my turn signals before deviating from the path and occasional accidentally on the auto-x track(god i feel like an idiot when i do that).

Has i earned it?

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Dude, if you were throwing turn signals at an autocross you could do a Yugo motor swap and still be epic in my book!

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I slapped a baby once, may I keep mine?

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Hoffman5982 wrote:I slapped a baby once, may I keep mine?

Be careful. That baby is looking for payback.

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Fenris wrote:Why you no answer my questions!?

I died lol

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I can has turbo????

But seriously I loved the "getting passed on the uphill by a slight breeze" comment just awesome... IMO op what you should be doing is weighing the cost and benefit between Sr20 KA-T and just building an NA KA to what you need. There are drawbacks to all of em someone mentioned problems registering an SR was impossible, not true I lived in so cal with a sr powered 240 for 3 years and my car was registered and all I had to do is pay a little more to get it "smogged" but that isn't to say that I wasn't s*** myself whenever I got pulled over. If you live in an area where Sr would be problematic go KA-T you'll get a s*** ton of power but it will not be a walk in the park doin the work and you may blow a few motors but thankfully KAs are a dime a dozen these days because fan boys opt for Sr and most engines outlast the cars because of the drift craze and the inability of most fan boys to actually drift.

I bought my ride with a built sr in it so it made sense to go that route... Do your research talk to ppl at car meets and talk to ppl on here, it's a lot of money to just drop on a motor swap that may or may not be right for you

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So your car was legitimately registered with full disclosure of the SR swap? I read your quotation marks as sarcasm so no? Getting a car to pass inspection through some sneaky s*** is not what I am talking about. My car was inspected last year and passed WITHOUT AN ENGINE! It's an original automatic car with an undocumented five speed swap, it's way too low, all the emissions crap and the power steering are yanked and it passes every time, so what? That doesn't mean it's legal or that I too am not s*** bricks if I get pulled over.

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Where do u live that u gotta have ur cars ride height inspected and have to document five speed swaps? I live in Cali and we only have smog checks once every 2 years and if you live outside a major population areas you only gotta smog it when u buy it so yeah I bought it with an sr in it as far as the state is concerned it is legally registered cus I pay the bi yearly fees

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Japan.

Ride height, five speed swaps, any bodywork that increases the major dimensions of the car's width, length or height, removal of back seats rendering a four passenger a two passenger vehicle, etc etc. My wastegate dumping into the street is a complete no-go.

So, if your car was ever rolled into a legitimate state inspection, it would pass with an SR20 in place of a KA24? I'm not saying you don't squeak by. You seem to and I can appreciate the tricks you use because I have tricks of my own being another below the radar sneaky mofo. That, however, is not a legal car and that is what I am talking about and you know that.

Somewhere in America there is some dude driving a Skyline that was snuck through customs in pieces and registered in Florida with a hijacked 240SX VIN and he swears it's just as legitimate, but he's still laying awake at night and looking over his shoulder whenever he goes out in it, just like you. I ain't judging him either, but I will call BS when he tries to misrepresent the true nature of his "grey" vehicle just like the crap you're slinging.

If your car is fully compliant, let's see some paperwork. If you have figured out how to roll an SR in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia, the most eco-fascist state in the union, you are indeed a Jedi master and the members would love to know how to do that so they can stop sweating bullets every time a CHP cruiser flips a U-turn after they pass. :chuckle:

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I Live in NH, and my 240 is an 89 so as long as it throws no CEL's and isn't dripping anything they don't much care what my motor is.... Rust, now they dont like that, or my temperamental hazard button... turn signals all work fine, but the 4-ways button...

Will be moving to Colorado in a year, and as long as i can get an SR to pass a sniffer i should be fine. Will end up putting on a full stock exhaust with the most restrictive cat i can find... but hey.. lol

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Ahh... gotta love Kentucky. The ONLY time you ever have to get any sort of inspection whatsoever is if you try to register a custom built car. I don't know anyone who's actually done it, but generally if a car has lights, signals, and a horn it can be registered.

The only other time the state looks into anything is if you try to register a car from out of state, and then all they do is run the VIN. :biggrin:

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themadscientist wrote:Japan.

Ride height, five speed swaps, any bodywork that increases the major dimensions of the car's width, length or height, removal of back seats rendering a four passenger a two passenger vehicle, etc etc. My wastegate dumping into the street is a complete no-go.

So, if your car was ever rolled into a legitimate state inspection, it would pass with an SR20 in place of a KA24? I'm not saying you don't squeak by. You seem to and I can appreciate the tricks you use because I have tricks of my own being another below the radar sneaky mofo. That, however, is not a legal car and that is what I am talking about and you know that.

Somewhere in America there is some dude driving a Skyline that was snuck through customs in pieces and registered in Florida with a hijacked 240SX VIN and he swears it's just as legitimate, but he's still laying awake at night and looking over his shoulder whenever he goes out in it, just like you. I ain't judging him either, but I will call BS when he tries to misrepresent the true nature of his "grey" vehicle just like the crap you're slinging.

If your car is fully compliant, let's see some paperwork. If you have figured out how to roll an SR in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia, the most eco-fascist state in the union, you are indeed a Jedi master and the members would love to know how to do that so they can stop sweating bullets every time a CHP cruiser flips a U-turn after they pass. :chuckle:
Lol... Yeah it was originally registered in Oregon so I rocked those plates and it did get inspected at the DMV in f*** Egypt by a DMV person who wasn't the wiser because it has a regular beat up stained valve cover not shiny red, the fmic and piping is black, and there are lots of heat shrouds in the engine bay effectively it doesn't look aftermarket at all unless you know what ur looking at which thankfully cops in true nor cal don't (I'm talkin about true nor cal and not the bay) in addition when the CHP is more concerned with pot smugglers they really don't ask u to pop the hood unless they suspect ur hiding some sweet cheeba in there. But as for anywhere else I use to live in so cal with a Sr'd s13 and yeah it was nerve wrecking but as long as u weren't driving like a jackass or racing in front of the cops they had no reason to pull u over and pop the hood, which you can and should decline, done it several times :dblthumb:

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I used to get my car in high school inspected at a old mom and pop Sunoco. I would drop the car off and before I left to grab lunch I would say "there's a case of beer in the trunk, or maybe there isn't. :gapteeth:

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themadscientist wrote:I used to get my car in high school inspected at a old mom and pop Sunoco. I would drop the car off and before I left to grab lunch I would say "there's a case of beer in the trunk, or maybe there isn't. :gapteeth:
Haha that's awesome... Yeah unfortunately in so cal when gettin a car "smogged" it's more like "the 150 is sitting under the paperwork on the seat"

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i have a black top sr20det complete turn key swap im asking 2k for it

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i live in New Mexico and register my car in New Hampshire to get around any and everything....


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