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implict
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i have a 89 240sx, and i was reading that 89-90 chassis will need power steering lines and reservoir from 91-94 chassis.... is that really true??? and why would u need to change them??? they wouldnt fit or???? and if i do..... where could i get that???:help


implict
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Would it matter if i was gettn a front clip or???? wouldnt it come with the front clip?

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Redtoppeds13
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reason why you need power steering lines cause on the 91-93 the power steering pump is on the driver side....

on your car its on the passenger side.

No you cant use the front clips power steering lines cause i belive there on the oppoiste side to:oface

S13240
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If you get a front clip, everything will swap right over to the 89-90 240sx. That's what a front clip is for...you get to swap everything over to a stock jspec motor.

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That's bull, the lines won't reach.

:bsflag

Check out SCC's article on their project silvia, it explains it all-

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html

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K thanx for that web site... it helped alot :D

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silviamirage wrote:That's bull, the lines won't reach.

:bsflag

Check out SCC's article on their project silvia, it explains it all-

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html


BS to my post? Look who's talking...I even wonder why you joined the 240sx family? Don't tell me you believe everything what SCC has to say about the SR Swap. Using the PS lines and accessories from the Silvia/180sx front clip will work on 89-90 240sx. The PS lines from the front clip will be the same as 91-93 240sx PS lines.

Like I mentioned above...a front clip is there for you to swap everything over to your 240sx. Everything in the clip can be swapped over to your car.

My personal opinion...I don't think they bought a front clip. Seems like they bought only a complete motorset that's why they had to get the 91-93 240sx ps lines. If they bought a front clip...they would have used everything from the front clip into their project s13.

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I just got the lines from a 93. Should I go back to the junkyard and get the reservoir too? or can the old one (from a '90) be used. the junkyard is right down the street so if it's easier to use the newer one I'll go get it, but if I can save a few buck and just use different flare fittings ( I think that what they are called) I'd rather do that. anyone know if that's possible??

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Yes, bs to your post, because what you said was bs, get it?

Yeah, the clip should be from later than 91, but they would be designed to go to the Japanese location. Before 91, the location of the fuel pump on 240's (non, japanese, though this doesn't need to be spec. b/c the japanese didn't have 240's), was different than the location of the fuel pump on the Japanese model silvias (or 180's). The fuel line on the 240 won't reach, b/c it was designed to go to the stock 240 location. The fuel line on the silvia or 180 engine won't fit b/c it was designed to go to the silvia location.

For further specification, ask Dauntless or I H8 UR DSM.

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Oh yeah, and I trust SCC b/c I haven't heard anything otherwise except from you, and I sure as hell trust them more than you.

As for why am I here, although I have a jetta, I prefer the handling, power, and potential of Japanese cars, esp. Nissans. Furthermore, I intend to buy a 240 in the next few months, but won't right now because the college that I will be attending in two months doesn't have enough parking, so I'll have to sell my car or leave it at my parents' house. Rather than keep the boat that I have right now, I'll sell the piece of **** and buy a 240 when (and if) I get a parking space. Because of my impending purchuse, and my interest in a hell of alot of things, I want to find out as much as I can about the 240 and import tuning itself, and this is one hell of a place to start.

Furthermore, shut the **** up, it isn't your business why I'm here, even if I didn't plan on buying a 240 I'd be here just because I feel like learning as much about every ****ing thing that I want to, and get the hell out of my way your ignorant sun of a *****!

:eatme

AllTurbo-ask dauntless, I'm not sure about that, and I know that he will. If he doesn't respond to your post, get his email off of his company's web site: http://www.afterdark-tuning.com

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What kind of jetta??? the v6 or the 1.8t? Jettas arnt bad... just more lux...

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silviamirage wrote:Oh yeah, and I trust SCC b/c I haven't heard anything otherwise except from you, and I sure as hell trust them more than you.

As for why am I here, although I have a jetta, I prefer the handling, power, and potential of Japanese cars, esp. Nissans. Furthermore, I intend to buy a 240 in the next few months, but won't right now because the college that I will be attending in two months doesn't have enough parking, so I'll have to sell my car or leave it at my parents' house. Rather than keep the boat that I have right now, I'll sell the piece of **** and buy a 240 when (and if) I get a parking space. Because of my impending purchuse, and my interest in a hell of alot of things, I want to find out as much as I can about the 240 and import tuning itself, and this is one hell of a place to start.

Furthermore, shut the **** up, it isn't your business why I'm here, even if I didn't plan on buying a 240 I'd be here just because I feel like learning as much about every ****ing thing that I want to, and get the hell out of my way your ignorant sun of a *****!

:eatme

AllTurbo-ask dauntless, I'm not sure about that, and I know that he will. If he doesn't respond to your post, get his email off of his company's web site: http://www.afterdark-tuning.com


You're an idiot...we're not even talking about fuel pumps and fuel pump lines here...DUH of course the fuel lines will be different because of different engines you dumb a$s. Get it through your thick headed skull...everything from the front clip will swap over. The 240sx/Silvia/180sx/200sx/etc are all the same car. How can the ps pump and others be mounted differently? I actually own one for your information and I know the facts, you just THINK you know because I bet you're just one of them rice boys that read silvia this and 180sx that in those import magazines and now you think you're gonna get one too because they're getting quite popular. What's the difference with me and SCC giving our own points of views? It's one against one on different points of views...and you actually believe SCC more? I bet you even believe that you can get a front clip for $1500 also huh? DUH!!! Of course...you THINK you can get it for the same price because SCC said so...

You're just a prick anyway...and I wasn't the one calling other people's posts BS! You're the one with an attitude on here...this forum isn't for people like you to call out shots or nots because you have never done an sr swap, let alone don't even own a 240sx so how can you actually even be calling my opinions BS? You're the BSer on here if you really look at it...the reason why I gave my opinion was because I've asked Heavythrottle, Unstable-Hybrids, Phase2motortrend, and Cartunemotorsports/Neishlin and they all told me the same thing and as you've noticed they're all great companies that deals with SR swaps and distributors of SRs and very knowledgable about it...so you can STFU A$$HOLE!!!

Go sell your POS Jetta first and then buy a 240sx and then come back and argue with me. Buster!!! C0ck Block! Left Nut! 3rd Breast! Son of a Wh0re! C0ck Sucker! :mad:

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implicit-'95 Jetta GL, 2.0 litre 4cylinder. The power's not too bad and it handles relatively well at high speeds for the condition that it's in, but it needs alot of work: The suspension was already too soft, but now it can be dangerous when going through tight turns at high speeds, the wheels need to be replaced (a bit dented, driveable easily, but still worth replacing), the sunroof isn't working, the muffler needs to be replaced, and it has alittle other cosmetic problems. All in all it's not that bad, but it lacks the pep of a japanese car, and feels too much like a minivan in its upright stance.

s13240-Ok, I messed up my terms, something to do with me doing research on about three things at once while posting. While I messed up terms, the lines will still not interchange. Why they won't, I don't really know, because, like you said, I don't even have a 240 yet. However, I do know that SCC wrote that I'd need to change the lines over, and the only person that is refuting that is you. Although I don't doubt that SCC could have been wrong on occasions, they are a magazine that does project cars like this on a regular basis, has writers with at least decent proficiency, far above any other import magazine (indicating intelligence), and, unlike you, they post pictures of the work that they did on the internet, so I know that they actually have done the swap on an '89 240, unlike you. You may have done the swap, but you probably didn't do it on an 89 or 90, since you didn't mention it. Furthermore, I see no reason why SCC would have said that they had to use the longer power steering line if they didn't have to, and I doubt that they would have taken the trouble to if they didn't have to.

My question is: How the hell do you know? Did you actually do it yourself? Furthermore, there are other people who sift through this forum who would definitely know the answer to this question, people who have done the swap themselves on an '89, and until they tell me otherwise, I'll believe SCC over you.

Also-don't insult my intelligence. I'll leave it at that, before I result to more inflaming sorts of report.

S13240
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Yes my s13 is an 89 coupe.

And since you won't believe my facts here's a couple links I've looked up from Freshalloy:

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads ... Post345750

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads ... Post151308

implict
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Another question.... i own a 89 240sx fastback... whats this i hear about limited diff or whatever and the 4 lug or 5 lug stuff...... what does my car have??? liek does it have limited slip diff? or whatever??? Is the 89 fastback a good 240sx? or???? ( i know hte ka24e is a pos but... im still beating alot of these pos civics around here and i have nothign done to mine at all!!!!!!!)

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The fastback is fine, but I'm not sure whether it has lsd.

s13240-

"89-90 chassis will need power steering lines and reservoir from 91-94 chassis."

-from heavy throttle's web site.

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lol, a link to a freshalloy thread? I think that I'll take the info from heavythrottle over those fools, especially since one of the posters said that no 240's had 5 lug hubs (some of the s14's rear hubs were 5 lug)

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silviamirage wrote:The fastback is fine, but I'm not sure whether it has lsd.

s13240-

"89-90 chassis will need power steering lines and reservoir from 91-94 chassis."

-from heavy throttle's web site.


Yes the 89-90 chassis will need power steering line and reservoir from 91-94 chassis ONLY IF you did not buy a front clip.

And I'm assuming the write up heavythrottle had in their SRFAQ was only for a complete motorswap; it wasn't for a front clip. I assure you that if you e-mail Yury from Heavy Throttle he will say the same thing as I have said. Everything from the front clip will swap over to the usdm 240sx fine.

If you look at the 91-94 ps lines and reservoir compared to the SR ps lines and reservoir, they're both the same because they're both on the same side of the car. You can even use the 91-94 ps pump and lines on the SR as well...mainly 2-3 bolts will only bolt onto the SR ps bracket, but the KA pump can still be used on the SR. In conclusion, the SR's original equipment can be swapped over because it will be mounted the same way as the 91-94 lines and reservoir.

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silviamirage wrote:lol, a link to a freshalloy thread? I think that I'll take the info from heavythrottle over those fools, especially since one of the posters said that no 240's had 5 lug hubs (some of the s14's rear hubs were 5 lug)


I don't get your point, you're always criticizing other people's posts and I for one know that most of the people that answers to SR topics have mainly done the SR swap and know what they're doing already. They know just as much as Heavy Throttle does, some may know more some may know less...but you have to get it through to you that even if regular people like us posts up facts/opinions about things...we know just as much if not a bit less or a bit more than performance shops/magazines/distributors/etc. We all give our own facts/opinions from experience...we don't give theories just because we think it'll work. And it doesn't mean that one of the members on FA said that no 240s had 5 lug hubs doesn't mean everybody else on that board is stupid also. That's what these message boards are for...it's to help each other out and share ideas. Everybody makes mistakes, no one is perfect.

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Oh well...no more from me. If you don't believe me and wanna waste more money on getting 91-94 ps lines and reservoir go right ahead even if you bought a front clip which will have everything there for you. Good luck attempting the SR swap in the future since you make SR experienced people sound so stupid compared to magazines and shops.

I'm only 19, but I've had local shops and lots of local people asking me for help on SR swaps and short cuts.


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