sr20det or ka24de

[240DRFT]

would you rather get a sr20 or turbo the ka? whats the fastest you've heard of a turbo ka going.

[prigo]

S E A R C H

[InstantRice]

<== ends life.

[silvia tunner]

You should have never posted this

[tonynalli]

cmon guys just answer the question.. the sr20 stock comes with lke 205 or something like that. but if you get the greddy kit it will up your ka24de to about 255 if im not mistaken. the only thing is that you wont be able to put the boost up that high. the sr20 is smaller but it was meant for boost. where as the ka24 wasnt. but you could easly get a KA to smoke the crap out of a SR. i would love to turbo my ka but its not dohc. i will more then likely get a different car before i do that. my engine could handle a trubo and nitrous becasuse it has forged pistons and rods and other upgraded parts. but dont really want to.

[BoyWonder]

I think people didn't mind answering this question the first time. Maybe even the second. Or third or fourth or fifth etc etc..

Just get the SR. Seriously. You drop it in, it goes, you're happy. Unless you feel like researching (which, from this post, sounds like you don't), reading, and comparing KA Turbo setups, or perhaps even building your own, then installing and tuning. Or just get the SR and read a DIY install guide and be done with it.

[240Knightrider]

Hey, im going with the KA24DE and I will be running the turbo in it. Like tonynalli said it cant handle that much boost. The only way to fix that is is the put forged pisotns and rods and more forged stuff so you can turn up the booooost. I would go with the KA, I haver heard of it being a lot easier to maka a KA with 600hp than an SR with 500hp

[BoyWonder]

KA rods are forged in stock form from what I understand. The pistons are usually the weak point. Obviously you need things like injectors and the such, but the pistons need to upgraded past a certain point.

A 600hp KA? I'd like to see this. I'm not saying it can't be done, there just haven't been that many monster KAs that I've seen. I'd say you see far more modded out SRs than KAs.

[HolyShiznit]

Hey, im going with the KA24DE and I will be running the turbo in it. Like tonynalli said it cant handle that much boost. The only way to fix that is is the put forged pisotns and rods and more forged stuff so you can turn up the booooost. I would go with the KA, I haver heard of it being a lot easier to maka a KA with 600hp than an SR with 500hp

One of the most misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid posts EVAR.

Mods please just delete this crap.

[Silent Drifter]

buy a honda

[MikeMurphy]

We should be greatful to have a choice of 2 amazing engines. Please do a search and find out which suites you best.

[240Knightrider]

One of the most misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid posts EVAR.

Mods please just delete this crap.

One of the most misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid posts EVAR.

Mods please just delete this crap.

[240Knightrider]

One of the most misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid posts EVAR.

Mods please just delete this crap.

I would like to know how you come to that conclusion. You must be one of the people who run the sr20 and say the KA is a piece of crap. Do your research and you will realize what I have said is not misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid. Then the oh factor comes in, you will think to yourself, I must be misguided, ignorant, and blatantly stupid for saying that.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

THERE IS A 500+ WHP KA HERE IN AZ.

SEARCH THE AZ240SX.ORG FORUMS.

THE KA24DE IS A PRIME FOR TURBOCHARGING. YOU COULD BUILD UP THE KA24DE AND TURBO IT FOR JUST ALITTLE MORE THAN THE SR20DET SWAP W/ INSTALL, YOU WILL END UP WITH A STRONGER ENGINE AND MUCH MORE POWER TOO. THE KA24DE COULD USE LOWER C/R FORGED PISTONS, CRYO/SHOT-PEENING OF THE RODS, RACE BEARINGS, AND A THICKER METAL HEADGASKET AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOST THE HELL OUT OF THIS MOTOR.

ONE THING I CAN SAY IS THAT I LOVE MY RB20DET TO DEATH BUT I KINDA WISH I JUST PICKED UP A 91 KA24DE AND TURBO'D THAT.... I WOULDA GOTTEN THE RESULTS I WAS LOOKING FOR IN LESS TIME FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF CASH.

[Twintip_yeti]

AHHH TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK!!! buuut both engines have their strong points just do some researchin

yeti

[tonynalli]

let me ask you this. for any type of racing do they put smaller engines in them?? NO the beef the hell outta the engine that they have or the put a BIGGER one in. if i had the choice to putting a turbo on a ka or get an sr i would soo take the ka. it has bigger displacement. and we all know what that means

BOYWONDER: i do belive that you are right. but if you are going to be taking the engine apart you pretty much have one chance. so you might as well put different rods in. it will be worth it.

the main 240sx guy in town has a ka that he turbo'd and he smokes the crap outta just about any car that challenges him. plus you dont have to worry about having to rewire the harness or get anything else.

[SeVa-S13]

I'm all for Turbo KA's but everyone seems to overlook the fact that the majority (or atleast alot) of them are going to need to be rebuilt to handle any decent amount of power...

Everyone's like "You can piece together a simple KA-T setup for much cheaper than those stupid SR's! HAHA!"

Most S13 KA's have ATLEAST 100k miles on them. You weren't the first, or likely, the second owner. You don't know for sure how this thing was treated before you got it. Half the time, these kids will run their KA's hard even before turboing them. That causes alot of wear, and fast. A lower mileage (40-65k) KA is like $500+ so you gotta figure that into your costs, or rebuilding yours, which is probably gunna run you about the same amount, IF you do it yourself. If you take it to a shop, prepare to grab your ankles.

I'm not saying that KA's can't last into high mileage (I have a 170k+ one myself) or whatever certain miltant e-thugs are preparing to make their painfully eloquent rebuttle with, but face the facts: These engines are old-boost at your own risk and prepare to fix things while showing those JDM tyte bandwagoneers who's the boss.

[whiterps13]

wtf did they get rid of the BIG RED BUTTON???????????

[SeVa-S13]

let me ask you this. for any type of racing do they put smaller engines in them?? NO the beef the hell outta the engine that they have or the put a BIGGER one in. if i had the choice to putting a turbo on a ka or get an sr i would soo take the ka. it has bigger displacement. and we all know what that means

BOYWONDER: i do belive that you are right. but if you are going to be taking the engine apart you pretty much have one chance. so you might as well put different rods in. it will be worth it.

the main 240sx guy in town has a ka that he turbo'd and he smokes the crap outta just about any car that challenges him. plus you dont have to worry about having to rewire the harness or get anything else.

Plain and simple, an SR will outshine a KA stock block vs. stock block. It's just been proven. Sure that 4/10 of a liter is nice but so is being able to run 15+ psi without having to fork out "mad cash" for forged internals. The KA's cams are definitely not ideal for turbo-- they choke the high end, bad. There goes more money. Sure, a $10,000 budget Turbo KA will own a relatively stock SR, but how many people here just have that kind of disposable income just lying around.

(Idiot disclaimer: $10,000 is an arbitrary figure. I know it will not take ten grand for KA internals, nor to beat a stock SR, it's purely for a point. Thank you for reading this before spewing ignorant statements via the keyboard. )

[tonynalli]

Quote »Plain and simple, an SR will outshine a KA stock block vs. stock block. It's just been proven. Sure that 4/10 of a liter is nice but so is being able to run 15+ psi without having to fork out "mad cash" for forged internals. The KA's cams are definitely not ideal for turbo-- they choke the high end, bad. There goes more money. Sure, a $10,000 budget Turbo KA will own a relatively stock SR, but how many people here just have that kind of disposable income just lying around.[/quote]

dude you are comparing a turbo motor to an NA. its not a contest. what i was talking about was if you turbo the ka with a plain and simple greedy kit you will SMOKE an sr. even if you are runngin the same boost.

[Nathan]

KA24DET's suck balls, you REALLY dont want one.

[tonynalli]

uhhh.....that was a really dumb post.

[SeVa-S13]

......KA stock block vs. stock block.....Turbo KA will own a relatively stock SR

dude you are comparing a turbo motor to an NA.

No. I was not.

[tonynalli]

Quote »an SR will outshine a KA stock block vs. stock block[/quote]

you can mix the words up to make it say jsut about anything but you notice that im not using any of ....... in quotes.

and any person that reads that quote will be like " you are comparing a sr20det to a ka24de,ones turbo" now if you are talking about a sr20de vs. a ka24de then specifiy.

[240Knightrider]

Like its been said before. Ka24DE are pretty much bullet proof. I havent heard that about the Sr20's, not saying they are bad engines by no means. For the guy that said you can only really find a ka with hard driven miles on it unless you want to pay alot. Well if you rebuild it, it doesnt really matter unless the block is screwed up, and second what do you call a SR20 engine that was Driven to death because the owner knew they were going to get a new one after 30 to 60K anyways. If you blow a sr20 its a lot harder (and cost more) to get that part then it is to go find a KA20 engine and use that one. Personally I would rather spend a little bit more money to get a better running engine (KA24) that I know will last.

[tonynalli]

very true.

[SeVa-S13]

I'm sorry if the dots confused you, I just felt like leaving the unapplicable info out so as to shorten it. :rolleyes

And this is a thread about Turbo engines. I made a post about said subject. And even if I WERE talking about an NA engine, why would I even mention block strength, forged internals, and "PSI?"

Althought I would be happy to make an argument for an NA SR over KA. I just enjoy arguing and will take whatever side seems to be losing at the time.

[tonynalli]

actually this is a thread about which engine to turbo.

[240SXedUp]

Dear God! Just search!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SeVa-S13]

actually this is a thread about which engine to turbo.