SR20deT i want it!

Post by **WntrCoatBlu240** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

hi there, i'm another newbie here on this forum.. i've actually been a 240sx driver for some time now but i'm looking for some more power... of course the best thing for S13 is to have the SR20deT put in, but here is my problem... unfortunately, i live in CA and the smog law is probably the strictest in the country... here is my question, i want the engine, i have the money and i have someone that is going to supply the motor and install it for me, how can i get it smoged in CA? does it even pass smog?! any input is helpful.. thanks in advance...

Post by **ugeancee** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Take it to the referee. If it can pass the sniffer test there then they'll give you something to put on your engine block that says it's legal. Just make sure the motor is newer then your car or the same year, and it comes from the same type of vehicle (in this case a passanger vehicle. Do the normal things like warm up your car and drive around before going in and maybe turning the boost down.

check this site too :

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

Post by **godspeed** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Crooked in Cali is the only way to be.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Get Krunked up

Post by **ItzGenX** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Turbo the KA, cheaper and less frustration.

Post by **Phax** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

BuudWeizErr wrote:Crooked in Cali is the only way to be.

:Werd

Seems like that applies to more than just getting a car smogged.

Post by **WntrCoatBlu240** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

hi, so if i'm not mistaken... getting the Sr20deT is actually more of a headach than anything? is it even worth it? because my car is a daily driver and i need it for work and school, can't have my car impounded becuase of an illegal engine... so turbo the KA is the best way? there is so little potential for that engine i heard... any suggestions?! thanks again!

Post by **ItzGenX** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

There are quite a few people with 400hp+ KA's.

Post by **MainEvent212** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

with work it can be just as good...but be prepared to spend alot more

Post by **Anand** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

umm.....KA-T is illegal as well... it will not apss emmisions.... you HAVE to be crooked in CA to to anything to your car... did you know putting an aftermarket intake, exhaust, headers... allof that is Illegal here in CA?? yup.. those "legit" smog places will not smog your car if you have all that.... and so you basically can't really do anything to your car unless you go to a place where they are "dumb" or to a crooked place where they will look away while they smog your car...

Post by **Anand** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

oo...i forgot... a cop can't tell you to pop your hood or anything and in anycase unless he is all brushed up on his engines.. won't know s*** aout japanese engines./ the SR says Nissan on it and if installed right looks stock! so S/He won't knwo anything. so there you have it... stick with a SR... just have hook ups.. that's all

Post by **Spidey** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

I was wondering,Don't know if any of you are familiar with the smog laws, But A smog personel told me it was illegal to swap in an engine into your car if that engine was not available for your car in that year. But that if the Manufacturer offered the engine for your car in the same year it was legal. It does not specify weather it should be the U.S make or JDM make.

So since the Sr20det was offered in the 240 in japan would it be a legal swap?

Post by **Onizuka** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

what i have heard is, the engine has to be DOT legal (so it has to be a production engine in this country), it has to be from the same make (nissan cars can only have nissan engines put in them), and the engine has to be the same year as you car was produce or newer (you can put a 91 engine in a 90 car but not visa versa)

Post by **ugeancee** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

The problem with being crooked in CA is that the emissions testing laws will change sometime soon. I have been hearing about a stage 2 emissions test that involves dyono testing to test the car under load and a random 15% of all cars will have to report to the referee station to be tested.

Post by **jmillheiser** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

there is another trick. do you have family that lives outside of cali. if so then use their address and register your car in that state.

even if i were to move to cali i can still use my dads address here in wyoming and register the car in wyoming where they dont do any emissions testing and insurance rates are cheaper

Post by **S13240** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

ugeancee wrote:The problem with being crooked in CA is that the emissions testing laws will change sometime soon. I have been hearing about a stage 2 emissions test that involves dyono testing to test the car under load and a random 15% of all cars will have to report to the referee station to be tested.

That has been in effect for about a yr or two now. I unforunately was one of the 15% picked last year to get a smog test done at a Test Only Center with my sr powered 240.

Post by **Nathan** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

What was the outcome of that? I always wondered what they would do to you if you got nailed with it.

Post by **WntrCoatBlu240** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

actually i heard that if you keep all the original equipment from the sr you can get away with the smog, like low boost, cat, stock intake etc. anybody heard anything about that?

Post by **Spidey** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

Like many people have said you there is a chance you will pass the sniffer but in the test only they do a visual inspection as well. I've been through it but I did it when I had my KA in my car. Before I did the swap.

Post by **roundrocktom** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

jmillheiser wrote:there is another trick. do you have family that lives outside of cali. if so then use their address and register your car in that state.

even if i were to move to cali i can still use my dads address here in wyoming and register the car in wyoming where they dont do any emissions testing and insurance rates are cheaper

Watch out!

A VERY COMMON trick is to have a "summer home" in Oregon, register your vehicles there. If CHP sees you in a daily driver with out of state plates... you're busted!

Admitted they will pay more attention to a cute blond in a Porsche Turbo... then a 10 year old "beater nissan". Only folks allowed the "out of state" plates are military...

To get around having a SR20DET engine... simple trick when I had a radical Rotary Mazda. Had to smog once a year. I would pull the engine out one night, drop the stock (low mileage) smogged engine in, smog it, swap motors back the next afternoon. No kidding. We actually had a group of folks in Sacramento, and could pull the engine in 45 minutes (after you've done it a dozen times you get fast!).

As to "engine swap"... yes, it has to be a CALIFORNIA engine. You could drop in a 300ZXtt from a later year and still be legal. Lots of older Datsun's running KA24DE engines and passing smog, no problem. Catch on the older Datsun's... the ecu will run RICH at idle to heat up the cat, well the cat is "chassis equipment" and is not required for a '72 Datsun 510. Solution is to have JWT reprogram the idle for low emissions...

Just keep your stock engine, and learn how to change it out quickly!

Tom

Post by **SigmaNIN** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:21 pm

man i never wanted to say this but thank god ford dodge and gm own the government here in michigan and we have no smog checks whatsoever......

SR20deT i want it!

SR20deT i want it!

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