SR20DET headers???? Needed

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shane bigler
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Anyone know of any headers out there that dont cost ~ $900? I saw some for $350 but I cant find the damn site again. I heard a company called "Burns" makes some for a comparable price. I did a search and didnt find anything on this.


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Ummm first of all why would you use headers on a TURBO motor...lets try this one again.

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would you be referring to an "exhaust manifold"? there is like at least 3 more than you found :)

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shane bigler wrote:SR20DET headers


here is something you don’t see everyday:pface

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I bought a big money JIC manifold, it cracked, so I bought a cheap one off ebay, even comes with a cracking warranty, it's been fine so far.

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Headers for SR, makes me giggle

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i talk to one guy using a ebay SR manifold and it held up fine for him since he got it a couple of months ago.

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Sorry. I meant manifold. Im used to calling it a header. Anyway...something less restrictive than the stock unit.

THis ebay manifold...you paid how much? Can you give me more info on it?

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i got mine for 300 shipped. i think its "the good ebay one" because it has one peice runners unlike the other ebay ones that have like 3 peices welded together for each runner (more cracking prone). But then again, just as a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, mainfolds are only as strong as the weakest weld.

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J, does yours have the support bracket from the exhaust flange from the turbo flange to help support some of the weight?

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cosmo wrote:Headers for SR, makes me giggle


why? they have them!!! sr20de:D

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BuudWeizErr wrote:J, does yours have the support bracket from the exhaust flange from the turbo flange to help support some of the weight?


yeah, it has the extra area on the flanges where you can weld on support bars.




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whats wrong with calling them SR20det headers? NOTHING....

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lessthanjakejohn wrote:whats wrong with calling them SR20det headers? NOTHING....


i second that. N/A cars have exhaust manifolds...aftermarket ones are headers...why not for turbo cars? Makes perfect sense to me.

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hurddawg wrote:i second that. N/A cars have exhaust manifolds...aftermarket ones are headers...why not for turbo cars? Makes perfect sense to me.


I third that. I build custom headers for turbo applications all the time. And that's what we call them "headers". When they are tubular they are headers. When they are cast iron they are manifolds. IMHO.

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Because everyone else in the performance industry who sells turbo manifolds calles them just that, turbo manifolds. Find me one website that sells turbo manifolds as headers. You got your 3 basic principle manifolds: intake manifolds, Turbo exaust manifolds, and N/A exaust manifolds (often called headers in automotive slang).

Kind of like that dude though he had the special edition GT-R mustang with the turbo rotory and pistons and headers...

Quote »exhaust manifold noun : a manifold that receives exhaust gases from the cylinders

header noun 1 a machine that trims the heads from castings, forgings, etc., or one that forms heads, as in wire, to make nails 2 a person who operates such a machine 3 Also called: header tank a reservoir, tank, or hopper that maintains a gravity feed or a static fluid pressure in an apparatus 4 a brick or stone laid across a wall so that its end is flush with the outer surfaceCompare: stretcher [5] 5 the action of striking a ball with the head 6 (informal) a headlong fall or dive 7 (Computing) a the first element of various information storage systems that contains information relevant to the main contents b (as modifier)example: header cardexample: header label 8 (dialect) a mentally unbalanced person

turbochargernoun: a centrifugal compressor which boosts the intake pressure of an internal-combustion engine, driven by an exhaust-gas turbine fitted to the engine's exhaust manifold [/quote]even dictionaries call them exaust manifolds.

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Oh, the ebay manifold that I have is not actually one piece tubing. Although that's what they'd have you believe, cause they're polished the pipes smoothed out the welds, but, in actuality, they're 3-4 pieces each, with the external weld die ground off and polished. If you'll look inside you can see the welds, and they are noticable on the outside if you look very closely. But, they still have yet to crack, and it was cheap :)

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http://www.imagineauto.com/Mer...Turbo

http://www.youngsperformance.com/exhaust.htm

http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup/Turbo_headers.htm

The list goes on.

The term "header" implies equal length primaries, a common collector, tubular design, and good exhaust scavenging design qualities. It doesn't matter if they are for a turbo or not.

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quck question...i plan to upgrade my turbo in a year, to maybe a 3037 or slightly smaller...would this manifold be any good to me? might be a different flange but that can be changed, but would i need a top mounted one for the bigger turbo or whould it fit down under? If i can buy one now that will fit the stock t25 and is good for the larger one in the near future then i'm all for it because i can benifit from it now and its one less thing to get when i upgrade...any input?

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haddixracing wrote:http://www.imagineauto.com/Mer...Turbo

http://www.youngsperformance.com/exhaust.htm

http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup/Turbo_headers.htm

The list goes on.

The term "header" implies equal length primaries, a common collector, tubular design, and good exhaust scavenging design qualities. It doesn't matter if they are for a turbo or not.


Well thats very interesting and new to me, All of the buisnesses and sites i have dealt with call them exaust manifolds:

http://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html

http://www.sr20detperformance.com/turbos.htm

http://www.takakaira.com/performance/main.html

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33742

http://www.digitalracer.com/ca...id=54

http://www.jspec.com/enginemods.html

it doesnt really matter though i guess. To each his own :)

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shane bigler wrote:Anyone know of any headers out there that dont cost ~ $900? I saw some for $350 but I cant find the damn site again. I heard a company called "Burns" makes some for a comparable price. I did a search and didnt find anything on this.
Ahem- back to the real question at hand- Shane, there are many companies, both Japanese and US, making SR exhaust manifolds (call them headers if you really want to, I don't care) out there. I had my Greddy HEADER crack on my KA, and it sucked. It wasn't too hard to fix though. Anyway, JIC, HPI, HKS, GP sports, Enjuku, and a few others all make them in different techniques and quality and pricing, so try one. Remember, you may have to weld it back together no matter how expensive it was, so maybe try a burly cheaper one like people said before.

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speaking of turbo manifolds/headers....the people that have them..notice pretty good gains on the stock turbo or no?

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Redline240 wrote:quck question...i plan to upgrade my turbo in a year, to maybe a 3037 or slightly smaller...would this manifold be any good to me? might be a different flange but that can be changed, but would i need a top mounted one for the bigger turbo or whould it fit down under? If i can buy one now that will fit the stock t25 and is good for the larger one in the near future then i'm all for it because i can benifit from it now and its one less thing to get when i upgrade...any input?

Redline


I believe that the 3037 has a T25 flange, so it can fit on the stock manifold. THis means the turbo would be a side mount one. Dont quote me on this, but i'm pretty sure.

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I think the compressor housing on the 3037 is too big to fit bottom mount. Actually, I think if you grind on one of the engine mounts it will clear, you just don't get to see the big snail when you pop the hood :)

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The 3037 does indeed use a T25 flange. I heard there are a couple people working on a top mount manifold with a T25 flange.The 3037S PRO uses a T3 flange. I was thinking about a 3240, but I don't know..

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GTR-33 wrote:The 3037 does indeed use a T25 flange. I heard there are a couple people working on a top mount manifold with a T25 flange.The 3037S PRO uses a T3 flange. I was thinking about a 3240, but I don't know..


Any idea whose workin on the Top mount T25 manifold? I've heard from a few people that its being made but i'd like to know who and see how soon it'll be done...

Redline

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'93 Niss 240: Your signature is so ****ING ANNOYING! Why do you feel the need to list every single mod you've ever done to your car? I mean that's bad enough by itself, but to then add enormous pics on top of that, it's just ridiculous. Imagine if everyone did that. It would take 500% more pages per thread. It's nothing personal at all, I have nothing against you, but for everyone elses sake... we don't care about your mods enough to want to scroll through all that just 'cause you want to show off.

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hokiruu wrote:'93 Niss 240: Your signature is so ****ING ANNOYING! Why do you feel the need to list every single mod you've ever done to your car? I mean that's bad enough by itself, but to then add enormous pics on top of that, it's just ridiculous. Imagine if everyone did that. It would take 500% more pages per thread. It's nothing personal at all, I have nothing against you, but for everyone elses sake... we don't care about your mods enough to want to scroll through all that just 'cause you want to show off.


I know exactly what you are saying, but on NICO it only shows you sig once per thread... However that is still WAY TOO big... Not to mention there are a couple double posts by him as well...

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Is that better.... i mean half of the people on the forum have a pic of their car and the mods.......but I'll change it just so you can sleep at night, okay?

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Yes, much better. I could still do without the Skyline pic, but thank you. And it's not because I am losing sleep over it. It's to save us from scrolling through pages of people whose posts take up 5x the space they should because everyone wants to list their unimpressive mods. I know alot of people do it, but it still kind of stupid. I just want to initiate some sense of understanding that not everyone wants to know everything everyone has done to their car. It's ridiculous when people actually write stuff, like "I installed my NGK sparkplugs last year and I rate them a 9 out of 10. I will be installing my Pilot strut tower bar next weekend and am currently saving up for my Nismo FPR." Oh, btw: It's MORNING, unless you are actually "MOURNING" over the loss of your turbo this MORNING or something.


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