SR20DET Emissions + Legality

[matt0941]

Ok I plan on purchasing a '97 240SX and swapping in either an S13 Red or Black top. The stock car is not illegal. The stock motor is not illegal. The SR20DET is not illegal. But once they are combined are they technically illegal to drive on the street, seeing as the SR20DET was never registered as an engine here? And I live in Illinois, where there is no visual check, so this is taking into account that I do pass emissions.

EDIT: Also, how many times can you fail emissions in IL before impounding?

P.S. I did many searches and asked questions in threads but this question was still unresolved.

-Matt

[matt0941]

Ok so how many times can you fail emissions, and who the hell CAN arrest someone with an SR20DET in their 240 driving on the street after they passed emissions?

[keepingthe240]

What are the emission standards in las vegas,nevada with a swap???

[SR20DET240]

matt0941,do you actually search or just say you do so we don't get mad? :pface

Its kind of hard to miss this one:

Anyone in here have an SR in Illinois and pass emissions?

That one has some good info.

[Phax]

For emissions, a swapped SR should run as clean, if not more cleanly than a KA. Here in CA, there are a guys running around in pre-95, swapped 240s that pass the sniffer test all the time. In theory there is a visual, but there are a lot of shops who don't know / don't care. They see the Nissan valve cover and pass it, or simply don't care that it's swapped as long as it gets passed the sniffer.

If you have an OBD-II car though, you're done. As soon as they try to hook up to the ECU, game over.

[keepingthe240]

If you have an OBD-II car though, you're done. As soon as they try to hook up to the ECU, game over. [/QUOTE]

What yr did they start with the obo-ii??? And is las vegas swap friendly???? <---I'm moving there in 9 months, and i need to know.

[matt0941]

matt0941,do you actually search or just say you do so we don't get mad?

Its kind of hard to miss this one:

Anyone in here have an SR in Illinois and pass emissions?

That one has some good info.

Actually no, I did do a search on both google and the forums here. People are not really answering the questions I intended, and just relisting the same information I already knew minus Lost_to_a_k-car. And please don't say that I didn't search, considering how stupid that claim is... seeing as how I was a PART of the link that you pasted there. Why don't you read my post over more carefully and you will see the questions are completely different. :rolleyes

[SR20DET240]

ok matt0941, you're cool. Guys at the board (including me) can get short tempered when people don't search. I wasn't trying to be offensive with the question, just joking around.

Anyway that post I linked has some stuff that might help. It also has a link to the Illinois EPA site so you can read the guidelines on emissions testing.

Phax, OBD-II started officially in '96. I know some late '95 model year GM cars had it already.

Again Matt, I apologize for my assumption. I wish you luck in your quest of finding out the info! Post here if you come across other useful stuff for us IL guys.

Thanks! :pface

[matt0941]

No Problem SR, but can anyone tell me or have they ever heard of something like a person getting busted for having an SR motor in their car after passing emissions. Because I really have to convince my parents (I am 18) that it is not illegal to have the motor in the car, and if I lie to them and say it is, there better be no way in hell that I get busted for the SR due to its illegality.

[Vrtgrumpy]

You need to do some research for your state laws on Emissions, some states, CAN impound the car if its is considered To have been tampered with in the area of (smog) Emissions(Federal law). The cost of gettting it back is different in each state. Since the SR20DE/T is not a Federaly approved engine, your always taking a change and you have to decide if its worh it for you..

[matt0941]

Yea I have kinda decided to go turbo KA due to the power curve and the legality of it, thanks.

[BuudWeizErr]

For emissions, a swapped SR should run as clean, if not more cleanly than a KA. Here in CA, there are a guys running around in pre-95, swapped 240s that pass the sniffer test all the time.

Phax, do you have any tips for me on how to get it to pass the sniffer in socal? I think our ppm here is 100 or something like that, and my friend in Nevada w/ his SR just BARELY got under their 220 ppm standard.

The reason I ask is that I just found out that because of where I bought my car, I will probably have to do a running dyno smog check, which sucks big fat rhinocerous ****. So I either have to swap the KA back in after the SR is ready to go, smog it, then swap it back in as quick as I can... which I'm not too keen on doing. I may have another option, but it's not concrete yet.

[ghost]

So legally, it's smarter to Turbo the KA rather than Import an SR, correct?

(newbie questions, i know. :thinker )

[BuudWeizErr]

So legally, it's smarter to Turbo the KA rather than Import an SR, correct?

(newbie questions, i know. :thinker )

IMHO... a KA-T is only smarter from a "legal" perspective. And that's not even really "legal" as it is.

[matt0941]

IMHO... a KA-T is only smarter from a "legal" perspective. And that's not even really "legal" as it is.

[matt0941]

How so? Isn't it just a modification to an engine that is already registered in the states. Wouldn't that be looked over more kindly than an unheard of Turbo JDM engine?