SR20 Tuning!!!

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:52 am

hey, i have a s14 with a blacktop sr20det and it's running extremely rich. I can't even redline if i wanted too. It will bog out around 5 grand. Im in LA county and if u know of anyone that does tuning around there help me out PLEASE!!!

THANKS FOR ANY HELP GUYS!

Post by **Yangs S14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:54 am

i like how you post it everywhere..lol like i said in the other thread i would help if knew more about turbos...but my friends sti bogged after 3-4k? cause of the BOV being installed wrong...

Post by **nissanman04** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:56 am

what kind of engine management are you running? mods? we need a little more detail if you want some good suggestions. the SR forum might give you some better responses as well.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:06 am

well im just asking for somewhere that i can get it done at. i dont wanna do tuning myself. im a driver not a technician! haha

SR20DET BLACKTOP modz:* Greddy Front Mount* Blitz BOV* APEXI Intake* Blitz 550cc Fuel Injectors* CP Pistons* Eagle Rods and Bearings ext.* Greddy T51 turbo @ 12psi

thats the basics i guess.

Post by **Yangs S14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:13 am

hmmm...i dont know any shops in the la county...theres more shops in the oc that i know than la county..

Post by **dickie** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:15 am

I SEE THE PROBLEM! INSTEAD OF MODS IT HAS "MODZ" IN THE ENGINE!

seriously, please follow the proper protocols when posting. this should be in the rwd sr20det section and nowhere else.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:16 am

sry sir please dont hurt me. should i repost in there now?

Post by **da40** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:18 am

TonKpilS14 wrote:well im just asking for somewhere that i can get it done at. i dont wanna do tuning myself. im a driver not a technician! haha

SR20DET BLACKTOP modz:* Greddy Front Mount* Blitz BOV* APEXI Intake* Blitz 550cc Fuel Injectors* CP Pistons* Eagle Rods and Bearings ext.* Greddy T51 turbo @ 12psi

thats the basics i guess.

man ur running 550cc injes without any fuel managment!!!??Get yourself a safc or power fc and get to work!With the safc u can fix ur running rich problem easily do some research on it its not very hard but as far as tuning you might have to find someone witha dyno and a wideband for that good luck

Post by **dickie** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:22 am

i can move it there for you. i would get a few opinions to work with and then figure out which is the most probable and work at it from that angle.

hopefully the guys in sr20 should be able to help you more with the specifics.

good luck!

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:24 am

i have an AFC controler and a fuel regulator.

Post by **fregisr** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:34 am

so did you make any adjustments at all for your fuel in the safc. If not, then there is your reason why you running rich

Post by **shadowracing** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:19 pm

in LA county you could take it to marcos vargas hes in gardena thats the nearest shop in La your gona have to travel down to orange county.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:50 pm

are u talking about machine tuner?

Post by **Blown240sx** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:16 pm

the SAFC needs to be set to -42 or -48 all the way across the board on High and Low RPM maps. Those 550s are dump a lot more fuel than the factory 370cc injectors thats why your running so rich.

Who did you buy this from or who did your install? Cause you need to learn what your doing before you jump into something like this.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:21 pm

i bought it from private seller. and i built the motor like a month after i got it. i tuned my throttle curve 2day. Aerodyne Industries said that my stock ecu is still seeing my injectors as stock . They also said that my car is running rich on the bottem and lean on the top because of it. And that if i get their apexi boost controller they can tune it properly.

let me know what u guys think about that. I dont want to go and spend $500 on some BS.

Post by **Blown240sx** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:46 am

you dont need a boost controller you need a piggy back or stand alone fuel managment system to allow the ecu to properlly use those injectorys.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:27 am

what the hell is a piggy back system?

Post by **C - ROD** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:49 am

u could do a rom tune form like Jim Wolf or HybridDynamics for the cheap way out, but that isnt as good as a full standalon system. I recomend the AEM EMS with the wideband UEGO controller, then u can convert your motor to speed density which uses a MAP sensor & an IAT to measure your fresh air intake instead of a crappy mass air flowthose are my plans after i get frinished with my full rebuildthe EMS cost a lot but its well worth it

Post by **Blown240sx** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:33 pm

Piggy back meaning uses the factory ecu and is wired into the harness before the ECU. It receives the info first changes it then sends it to the ecu. Examples are GReddy Emanage and SAFC 1 or 2.

Full stand alones replace the ECU completely. Power FC is direct plug and play. EMS has to be wired up. Draw back to the Power FC is limited user interface and exspensive add ons like MAP and Boost control.

Rom Tune is where the factory ECU is chipped. Usually recommend a piggy back with this system to fine tune the car.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:43 pm

C - ROD wrote:u could do a rom tune form like Jim Wolf or HybridDynamics for the cheap way out, but that isnt as good as a full standalon system. I recomend the AEM EMS with the wideband UEGO controller, then u can convert your motor to speed density which uses a MAP sensor & an IAT to measure your fresh air intake instead of a crappy mass air flowthose are my plans after i get frinished with my full rebuildthe EMS cost a lot but its well worth it

ya id like to go with all thoughs goodies and do it the best and safest way but im not rich like u

if i go with a ROM tune will that fix my problem? eventually i plan on boosting maybe 20+ psi then put the car on a dyno. But i can't afford all of this right now because of school. But once i graduate then i will have double the hours to pay for all of this.

Post by **C - ROD** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:05 pm

im not Rich either, i just have a good job & i save my moneyif u plan on running 20+ pounds of boost then it would be smart to save ur money for a full standalone, & the AEM EMS does not have to be wired in, they changed it, now u just plug ur stock harness into the EMS unit & they now come with a few base FUEL & TIMING maps pre programed into it so u can drive around a little bit until u get to a tuning shop

Post by **luv2spedup** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:54 pm

how much does an ems cost any ways

Post by **C - ROD** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:57 am

its about $1700 before the IAT & MAP sensors, & about $1900 with those sensors to convert to speed density

Post by **spider_slayer** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:50 am

TonKpilS14 wrote: They also said that my car is running rich on the bottem and lean on the top because of it. And that if i get their apexi boost controller they can tune it properly.

el oh el.

the power fc is about as much as a rom tune with a piggyback. jsut depends on which way you want to go. if you plan on upgrading to a different turbo later i'd go with the fc.

Post by **TonKpilS14** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:24 pm

im not changing the turbo anytime soon. so u guys think i need a boost controller?

im hearing all different opinions.

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