SR20/KA24DE swap info

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befor people get bent outa shape about asking this question again...I cant find a list anywhere of what/model of vehicles to donate these respective engines, ive seared the sight and "donor vehicle" comes up dry. im picking up a 1991 240sx off my buddy(he cant figure it out and i need a project..) and plan to convert it to a manual and and swap the engine out witha rerbuilt/better one ,block and cylinder heads would be super..plus whatever doodads i can find(was toying with the feasability of puttin a jaguar rear end in there....(dana 44 with a detroit..), so does anyonw know of a list floating around here so i can start my junkyard crusade?


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Are you planning on an sr20det swap? There are a boatload of options for the s-chassis, however, i wouldn't recommend trying to put any jaguar parts on your 240. Unless of course you have the time, resources and knowledge for doing such things.


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i was thinking jaguar cause its basically a dana 44..plenty strong for anyting i can throw at, part/carriers are cheaper...and its IRS...just kicken some ideas around....no reason to keep this thing stock:), if I had gottern my hands on a 68-69 stand mach1/fastback....well, id be in a different forum! I just moved from alaska and with it got rid of my 1970 bronco so now i need soemthin worth modyfying, figured this car would do it

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thanks for the link ddg....but it doesnt really help, im looking for a list of cars that came with a SR20....or even a KA, i know some inssan trucks came with them....none of those threads had any specifics on what year/model i can get a sr20 blockand heads out of....i dont feel like spendning 11k on a long block from some advertiser.., just a simple list of donor vehicles so i can head out to the junkards with a engine hoise and a buddy(and 6pack..) yank a motor for a few hundred bucks...then rip it apart and build it how i see fit.

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Airmanspecial wrote:thanks for the link ddg....but it doesnt really help, im looking for a list of cars that came with a SR20....or even a KA, i know some inssan trucks came with them....none of those threads had any specifics on what year/model i can get a sr20 blockand heads out of....i dont feel like spendning 11k on a long block from some advertiser.., just a simple list of donor vehicles so i can head out to the junkards with a engine hoise and a buddy(and 6pack..) yank a motor for a few hundred bucks...then rip it apart and build it how i see fit.
Ok, here are the cliff notes on the link I gave you.

SR20's that will fit your 240SX (RWD) were not offered in America. You can only get them from Japanes Silvia's or Europe 200SX's.

KA engines that will work with your car without mad fabrication are only 240SX ones. If you want to put a $hitty truck KA in your car then more power to you.

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The infinty G20, 3rd gen sentra se-r's and nissan nx2000's all came with the SR20DE, but those are all front wheel drive cars. Also note that there is no "T" at the end, meaning it's not turbocharged. But i'm sure if you scratch your head enough and have a nice CNC machine you could make one fit in a 240sx.

You might also try a 300zx engine, the VG30DE or it's twin turbo variant. Or if you like big american-style power you could give a stab at a nissan titan engine, the VK56DE.

All of these options would require a large amount of custom fabrication.

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do those transverse sr20s have the same belhousing bolt pattern to be mount for a RWD car? so the only thing id be traking down would be the right cylinder head?, I just got done swapin out an engine in a 95 nissan altima, it has a ka24de, but the head has the distributer mount so that if i swaped it into my 240 it would be onthe back of the engine facing aft, can i use that block and find a head that wouls work?? from what ive seen a KA built up isnt such a bad thing considering. the old motor that came out had a spun bearing...so i was podering weaather or not i should try and salvage the block for a rebuild..or i could just say screw it and build a boss 302 (id stroke it to 347..)and cram it in there...ok not a true 302 boss wayyy to exspensive...those were cast with 4 bolt main caps..and the like...but with the right inards and some 351 clevland heads and presto....poor mans boss.. Did nissan have different castings for there KA/SR motors that eliminats just using a standard block and playing around with different head combos?...or do they do what checy and ford does and make there engines as part freindly as possble....(youcan put a 351 cam/crank in a 302...or a 289 and vice versa....theyre all the same block just with different bore and deck height

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i dont want to be stuck with this KA24E....just so..boring.

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It sounds like you need to just hang out around here a little more and start planing. The fwd and rwd engines are not interchangeable. The bell housings are different, and the block and head surfaces are different as well.

The stock rear end can handle 400+ whp just fine so there's no real need to modify what nissan spend so much time engineering.

The ka24e engine takes well to turbocharging, if you want to rebuild it and go that route.

So I'd say just hang out and read as much as you can. Head towards the ka forum for engine specific stuff. Everyone starts somewhere and as long as you do a lot of research everyone will be more than willing to help you out.

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imworkin it, ive got alot of planning to do cept theres not a while lot of printed(ie.books) on 240s and therye kinds, least not in arkasas......ive got like 5 or 6 ford books that tell me every nuance of thier motors...but trying to find strait foward info is tedious..im just gonna rebuild my KA24e with a solid bottom end, and go from there, mines also an Automatic, so ill be lookin for donor cars for a manual swap as well...(a 350z 6 spd just popped up on craigslist....i doubt it will bolt up from the looks of it, the factory made them with all the right holes all i gotta do is hookem up...Im lookin for a medium build, something i can drive more often than not, turboed with a manual, and some decent suspension mods. Im not gonna strip the car out and chip away the under coat to save weight.. its got a couple dents here and there so at least ill get to learn some body warking skills..

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doh forgot somethin else....are these engines internally balanced? so when i pick up my flywheel it doesnt need to be balanced(neutral..) same with harmonic balancer?Thanks!

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No and No, neither the pulley or the flywheel require a balancing (on your part).

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well thats a relief....302s are externally balanced....which createsa nightmare, if youre to change flywheels around...are the 5 spds for that year(1990) interchangable with the autos?


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