SR vs LS1 !!!!

Post by **migsk8** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:48 am

ok so heres the deal, my friend is building a 240 with an SR shooting for 350-400 HP and im building one with an ls1. i need some good ideas on ways to shut him out with an ls1, i want like 450+HP

let me know, im figuring out my budget

NO NOS please............

Post by **migsk8** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:33 pm

Post by **WDRacing** » Sat May 17, 2008 4:48 am

Headers, cam, intake, appropriate tune done.

Post by **migsk8** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:58 am

Post by **vinnymac** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:22 am

what swap kit are you using for your ls1?

Post by **WDRacing** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:01 am

migsk8 wrote:ttt

QUIT BUMPING THIS...

Post by **migsk8** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:39 pm

wait why?

is it against the rules??.....<<< serious question

Post by **Coolwhip** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:12 pm

because it's annoying

Post by **KAWhat** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:04 pm

Very annoying

WDRacing wrote:Headers, cam, intake, appropriate tune done.

This man speaks the truth.

Post by **WDRacing** » Sun May 18, 2008 7:07 am

migsk8 wrote:wait why?

is it against the rules??.....<<< serious question

There is a metric ton of crap that isn't AGAINST the rules, that doesn't mean you should do it. There is no law that says you can't gouge out your own eyes, but I'd stop you if I was able. Your thread has never left the top 3...so there is simply NO need to bump it. Especially since the question was answered in my FIRST post. If you want more info, do a little searching man. You're talking about one of the best motors made to date vs a friggin SR. Are you serious? You really need help making your LS faster?

They make 500whp NA with a cam/intake/tune...seriously. The SR will never make 500 anything without major work. You don't need to worry about ever losing a race, because you'll be making more torque by 3200 rpm then he'll make period...and that's if you leave it stock.

WD

Post by **migsk8** » Sun May 18, 2008 8:27 am

well i dont really want to spend money on head work, so what cam would you recommend for a stock ls1 head?

p.s i need reliability

Post by **EazyBreazy** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:32 pm

you dont even have to spend money on head work that was never even listed, but even if you wanted more you dont necessarily have to do head work as you can buy brand new heads from a myriad of companies with outstanding reputations for quality parts.

Post by **Ls1pwr** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:07 pm

if ur not gonna touch the heads at all then id suggest going on ls1tech.com and reading the plethora of info on cam only cars. now from the list of fastest cam only cars the t-rex is at the top, but is not what ur looking for if its a daily driver. id suggest taking a look at the vindicator from vengeance racing, or the ms4 from texas speed. they are both very good cams that u can daily drive, and should bring u to at the very least 420 rwhp and 400 rwtq. u can get more if u get the fast intake with 90mm throttle body.

Post by **HolyShiznit** » Tue May 27, 2008 1:13 pm

migsk8 wrote:ok so heres the deal, my friend is building a 240 with an SR shooting for 350-400 HP and im building one with an ls1. i need some good ideas on ways to shut him out with an ls1, i want like 450+HP

let me know, im figuring out my budget

NO NOS please............

You should be able to beat him with the motor stock..... and why are you limiting yourself with no "nitrous" (NOS is a brand). Throw a 150 shot on it bone stock and you won't have to worry about any SR you run against, especially from a roll situation.

500 dollar nitrous kit > heads/cam/tune/etc.

No clue how I know that......

Post by **Bmxandcars** » Tue May 27, 2008 1:44 pm

won't that bump it?

Post by **cnichols** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:44 pm

I love how everyone thinks they need gobs and gobs of horsepower. Get it in stock, drive the pi$$ out of it, then worry about upgrading.

I'm making 330 tops and rolling out on C6 Vettes with just an exhaust...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JkYlGIGL98

First get the car running, then become accustomed to the car so you don't put it into a tree, make it hook, then worry about making more power. Hell, you don't even have the engine yet most likely. Don't get too far ahead of yourself...concentrate on things one step at a time.

Post by **WDRacing** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:27 am

cnichols wrote:I love how everyone thinks they need gobs and gobs of horsepower. Get it in stock, drive the pi$$ out of it, then worry about upgrading.

I'm making 330 tops and rolling out on C6 Vettes with just an exhaust...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JkYlGIGL98

First get the car running, then become accustomed to the car so you don't put it into a tree, make it hook, then worry about making more power. Hell, you don't even have the engine yet most likely. Don't get too far ahead of yourself...concentrate on things one step at a time.

Well said Chris. 300+whp in any Schassis is alot. Especially when the torque curve starts at what, 2800?

Post by **Basic1** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:41 am

Exactly cnichols and WDRacing. I have to agree wholeheartedly. To the original poster: No, your thread bumping may not a be against rules, but there's a gentleman's agreement that makes it a norm for it to not be done. I'm surprised I read through this thread, because I initially felt like it was going to be a waste of time. Terribly generic question that a came off a non-committal since it lends the impression you have not acquired an LS1 drivetrain at this point.

If you really want the information you're searching for, you'd go to ls1tech.com like Ls1pwr suggested and read about what kinds of developments have occurred with using the LSx motor series. There's only a handful of people on this board that can give you real-world expectations of this kind of combination, so listen to them (cnichols being one). He's absolutely right in saying to just get the motor in, then worry about 450 whp. You may find that you don't require that much power.

Post by **WDRacing** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:22 pm

450 NA power with a torque curve as broad as the LSx has is almost undriveable. I'd go as far as to call it very unsafe in the hands of an unskilled driver.

WD

Post by **brizanden** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:54 am

cnichols wrote:I love how everyone thinks they need gobs and gobs of horsepower. Get it in stock, drive the pi$$ out of it, then worry about upgrading.

I'm making 330 tops and rolling out on C6 Vettes with just an exhaust...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JkYlGIGL98

First get the car running, then become accustomed to the car so you don't put it into a tree, make it hook, then worry about making more power. Hell, you don't even have the engine yet most likely. Don't get too far ahead of yourself...concentrate on things one step at a time.

WARNING APPROACHING THREAD JACKi just wanna tell u i love ur car. and im copying it completely lol (exterior wise). is that starfire blue or your own mix for the paint?

Post by **cnichols** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:51 am

WDRacing wrote:450 NA power with a torque curve as broad as the LSx has is almost undriveable. I'd go as far as to call it very unsafe in the hands of an unskilled driver.

WD

You wouldn't be going too far. With the power I'm putting down and the 11+ years experience I have w/ an S14 chassis, it still can be a handful every now and then. I am even a little timid about putting in the cam I have sitting in my basement.

brizanden wrote:
WARNING APPROACHING THREAD JACKi just wanna tell u i love ur car. and im copying it completely lol (exterior wise). is that starfire blue or your own mix for the paint?

Might as well jack it as the thread was going nowhere. We're now actually having a useful discussion. Thanks, and it's Mediterranean Blue (factory 96 240SX color)

Post by **brizanden** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 am

sweet thanks. do you have like a build thread or something? so i can look at more pictures of ur car haha

Post by **WDRacing** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:59 am

What size tires do you have outback Chris?

Post by **watty** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:45 am

WDRacing wrote:What size tires do you have outback Chris?

He has 275/40/17's I believe. Looked at them last year in Nashville and remember he was running the same as me. Just gotta watch those fenders. I had to roll mine a little.

Watty

Post by **WDRacing** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:16 am

Thx Mang...

Got your's done?

Post by **cnichols** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:18 am

brizanden wrote:sweet thanks. do you have like a build thread or something? so i can look at more pictures of ur car haha

Not really, but there are a couple at http://www.streetelite.net

And, yeah...rockin' the Nitto NT555R 275/40/17 out back.

Post by **brizanden** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:47 pm

a couple lol

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