SR vs. KA-T

[2.240s]

I had a sr20 redtop s15 turbo, greddy fmic. Until some guy turned in to me and totaled my car for me. Thinking of going KA-T for my next project.I really injoyed the 2 stroke like power the sr had.I have never felt the power of the KA-T before, what should i expect from the 2.4 liter with a turbo.are they totally different in feel? ?? My sr had about 260 Hp. how much different would a ka-t 260 hp be???
Modified by 2.240s at 5:19 PM 6/4/2006

[blckkat]

more low end torque....that's the jist of it.p.s. not the best title for a thread..you should have just called it "please lock this"

[Zenki21]

p.s. not the best title for a thread..you should have just called it "please lock this"

When i saw the title i was all ready to break out the such a dissappointment. lol

[david200095367]

a lil off topic but how much psi did u have to produce 260 hp?

[srblacks131]

Ive had both, an SR and a KA. my SR cost me about 8000 bucks when i was done with it cause I did a full rebuild and turbo upgrade. I sold the car and did a budget KA project. I spent 1800 bucks on my KA and got way more power out of it then I ever did the SR. If you need help with anything or want help with options, let me know. Im not bashing the SR in any way, I liked mine. But you can get the same ammount and more power out of the KA and for a lot cheaper price tag.

[fiznat]

Keepin a close eye on this one...

[91RMKS13]

Yeah when I saw the name of this one I was wiating for a lock and figured it had happened when i saw that the last post was from a mod .

I say go with the KA, its something different.

Why do an SR if you have done it before?

[2.240s]

Yeah my SR cost me almost $7000 when said and done. Was happy with the power just not the price tag, and then some guy late for work made a left turn right in to me. I am just curious about the bigger liter engine with a turbo(2.4 KA). Does it almost feel like a 6 cyl with a turbo?I will continue to search for the info on building the ka-t.I would like a solid 300hp. I might take you up on that offer for more info on how to build it correctly. Thanks

[91RMKS13]

Well it should make better tourqe, and they seem to be pretty well matched most of the time as far as numbers.

I dont think you would be dissapointed, so go for it.

[Florida240sx]

Most people here in town thought my 240sx was a 6 cyclinder anywayz. Turbo the KA. If you want a solid setup with no worries. You can order the IAP kit. Then just get some onjectors $300 and get an Enthalpy tune and your good as gold.That puts you at 4k but with the best tune out there and all new parts.

[srblacks131]

if your only looking for 300 hp, that is cake with a KA. Ive spent a total of 1800 bucks on mine and i have 377whp. trust me, its not that hard. just a little research and not buying all the expensive parts, because there are parts out there that preform the same but have 1/4 the price of brand name stuff. If you got some time check out KA-T.org. let the learning begin there, you wont be dissapointed

[Craving4Boost]

if it is a person's FIRST time ever turboing a car, i reccomend spending no less than 3000$ on a SOLID turbo kit whether it is IAP or Custom or even BOTH. However if you have experience with other cars or ESPECIALLY prior KA-T experince, than you're fine to spend whatever you want.

[Kittychubbs]

Wow! u got tons of power! good job! may i ask what were the main parts used?how much are u boosting? pistons,internal kit??and is it reliable? thanx for the tips.

[Florida240sx]

My friend is boosting for $1300 at 7psi. Great deal. Could of spent 2000 and been in same situation with better parts. Buying used parts is a gamble. If you have connections with an exhaust shop or got someone who can weld, you save a coupel hundred right there. Make your own mani, DP, and IC piping. Get a lightly used turbo or one just rebuilt at half the cost of a new. I wanted everything brand new for my car, and didn't want to be hunting down parts so I bought IAP kit.

[Kittychubbs]

Ohhhh buddy u said it!!!I Need a Downpipe!!!!!!!

U made urs!??? thats really cool. i cant get a downpipe ,i have to get the flanges to fit my To4e turbo. how did u do urs can u help me with ideas??? thanx

[emperor_lunchbox]

if your only looking for 300 hp, that is cake with a KA. Ive spent a total of 1800 bucks on mine and i have 377whp.

I am interested in your set up.What does it consist of?

[emperor_lunchbox]

posted twice for some reason.
Modified by emperor_lunchbox at 9:39 PM 6/9/2006

[srblacks131]

haha, well its got a **** ton of ebay stuff but the snail is a holset, 15 lbs of boost with 740cc's and a JWT

[Bosrudorfer]

haha, well its got a **** ton of ebay

he wants reliable lol :p

[240TweakerNewbee]

if your only looking for 300 hp, that is cake with a KA. Ive spent a total of 1800 bucks on mine and i have 377whp. trust me, its not that hard. just a little research and not buying all the expensive parts, because there are parts out there that preform the same but have 1/4 the price of brand name stuff. If you got some time check out KA-T.org. let the learning begin there, you wont be dissapointed

what does your HP/TQ curve look like? Where is the useable power. I know some KA-T's that go to the same dyno I take my SR'd 240 and they are always amazed at how flat and long I can keep the powerband. I just could see, and they were leraning why you don't put a turbo on a motor not designed for turbo. Turbo motors are made to rev high, and have power till redline; KA's are not. Just about the time your KA hits redline, the turbo is spooling up, they work against each other constantly. My SR lays down the power from 3800rpm - 7000rpm (even higher if I put rocker arm stoppers)... That is tons of useable power for real world situations. Even if you had more power to the wheels I'd walk all over your KA-T in an AutoX. KA-T's are AKA Dyno Queens... they will talk big HP numbers all day but never show up to the track.

[Tulsa_S-13]

what does your HP/TQ curve look like? Where is the useable power. I know some KA-T's that go to the same dyno I take my SR'd 240 and they are always amazed at how flat and long I can keep the powerband. I just could see, and they were leraning why you don't put a turbo on a motor not designed for turbo. Turbo motors are made to rev high, and have power till redline; KA's are not. Just about the time your KA hits redline, the turbo is spooling up, they work against each other constantly. My SR lays down the power from 3800rpm - 7000rpm (even higher if I put rocker arm stoppers)... That is tons of useable power for real world situations. Even if you had more power to the wheels I'd walk all over your KA-T in an AutoX. KA-T's are AKA Dyno Queens... they will talk big HP numbers all day but never show up to the track.

You should be a writer for Modified Mag

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Modified by Tulsa_S-13 at 11:42 AM 6/9/2006

[srblacks131]

thats cool, its nice that you have a little turbo to spool up so quick so you can get around and auto -x course. there are plenty of different reasons why people tubo cars. some like quikc response, some like a little lag that hits hard in the end. everybodys different. im sure you could walk all over me in auto-x , but i dont care. im pretty sure i could walk all over you and the drag strip, but you dont see me bragging about it. you gotts good power band there too. and needless to say, mine is the same. so whats your actual point to posting in here anyways. just to say you think your the **** and my car sucks. ok. good deal. ohh and about the reliability thing. my car is plenty reliable. just cause i have stuff off ebay and is 1/3 the price of other stuff doesnt mean its no reliable. its how you put it together and what you do with it is how reliable a car will be. im pretty happy with spending only 1800, having 377whp, and still getting 28mpg on the freeway. not everybody can do that now can they

[emperor_lunchbox]

could you post some pics of your setup?What parts did you get off eBay?Also, whats your turbo specs?

Your setup peaks my interested because it sounds perfect for my "spare" 240.

[Kaze]

i would also like to see his set up.....2g's for 377whp is too good to be true!

[srblacks131]

I dont have a digi camera nor do I know how to use one, Ill try and get some pics over the weekend but otherwise here is my setup and some videos for all yall.

JWT $400740cc inj $350Z32 Maf $150 (ebay)Intercooler $120 (ebay) 24x12x3IC piping $65 (ebay) cut to make fitManifold $50 (ebay) used SS autocrackTurbo $200 (ebay) its a secretFuel pump $90 (ebay)Clutch $309Downpipe $27 Made it out of 3 inch bendsBOV $ 25 (ebay) type s knock off, sounds awesome well, that total comes to $1786. That is the setup I have. Believe it or not, I dont care. I know I have it and for a cheap price, anyways. Enjoy the vids, Ill do my best to get some PICS for you guys

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[Kittychubbs]

Hey man i give u props for keep'n it real.that setup sounds smart and shows sum peeps do their homework, n dont just go to a popular turbo shop, and pays thousands just to have a car thats turbo so it can go in the fit in: "I got turbo man, wut now" category (lol) its true!!

but im sure there its No..one here like that, since this is not a "rice fit in" forum.

My request is the downpipe is it for To4e? cuz 27$ its hella cheap!!!no way!! I wunna try making one or can u help me make one?!

peace.

[srblacks131]

I went to the local exhaust shop and got a 3 inch u-band and chopped it in half. took one end and welded it on my v band flange, then I took the other end and welded it opposite so it goes downward and curls under my car. the bend itself was $27 dollars. thats all I have for exhaust and honestly, its not that loud. when i get on it, its pretty loud but if i just putting around town driving like a grandma its pretty quiet. so thats my story for the DP, dam cheap

[srblacks131]

if any of yall need any heklp, im more than willing to do what I can, thanks for the props. I dont get that too much, people just think im **** talking when i say my setup was so cheap

[Kittychubbs]

and the flanges?? did u use them? i seen them in ebay for like $20 for the t3/t4 flange, that connects to the back of the turbine, and then 15 for the 3 bolt flange that connects to the exhaust.

do u have a dump pipe or no??

or did u just weld them together (back of T + Dpipe+exhaust) , no bolt connection.thanx

[srblacks131]

i had my friend make me a flange at his work that bolts up to the turbo. he then welded on one side of the v-band clamp. then i took the other side v-band clamp and welded that on to the 3 inch pipe and then just clamped them together. v-band clamps are awesome