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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

15x8 +0 offset...

I'm not good at calculating offsets but it seems like these would stick out to far... right?


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yeah i'm pretty sure you will need flares or overfenders for that to fit. don't you have an s13 coupe......if so those are the sex with flares. i love em like that

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Kenrik your wheels are gonna stick out like 2 and half inches farther than the stock wheels does. Mine stuck out the same on an S14. With about -2 degree camber and a roll maybe a slight pull you should be straight. If your ever in Orlando and need some help with it I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.

Also you might have to stretch your tires a bit
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^ that's what I thought...

I'm not getting new wheels unless I sell mine to some civic ricer... I'm just considering it because i'm going to be needing new tires and that's always the best time to switch out wheels.

I'm keeping an eye out on RB motoring..

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I am really perplexed as to how this is so confusing to you. Your current wheel setup is 7"+2 offset. You are currently looking at 8"+0 sportmax. this means that the sportmax will stick out 1/2 inch(12.7mm) plus 2mm, for a total of 14.7mm less outside clearance than your current setup. Grab a ruler, check it out.

You do do much hating and flaming on other people, but then you make threads like this that illustrate how little you really know. I'm surprised people have not taken this oportunity to return the fire.

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240sxjeff wrote:Kenrik your wheels are gonna stick out like 2 and half inches out of the fenders.
Not true.

8"+0 sticks out exactly 65mm farther than the stock 6"+40 wheels. 65 millimeters is 2.6 inches. So.... In order for the sportmax to stick out 2.5 inches, this must mean that the stock wheels stick out 0.1 inches? I don't think so.

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naed240sx wrote:I am really perplexed as to how this is so confusing to you. Your current wheel setup is 7"+2 offset. You are currently looking at 8"+0 sportmax. this means that the sportmax will stick out 1/2 inch(12.7mm) plus 2mm, for a total of 14.7mm less outside clearance than your current setup. Grab a ruler, check it out.

You do do much hating and flaming on other people, but then you make threads like this that illustrate how little you really know. I'm surprised people have not taken this oportunity to return the fire.
Haha you do the most flaming of anyone on NICO..

Anyway I had done the math and knew they would stick out farther I was just asking to see if I had missed something, it's a wider wheels so even if it was the same offset as my wheels now then it would still stick out farther...

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Kenrik wrote:Haha you do the most flaming of anyone on NICO..

Anyway I had done the math and knew they would stick out farther I was just asking to see if I had missed something, it's a wider wheels so even if it was the same offset as my wheels now then it would still stick out farther...
Just realize that given a 17x7, a 17x8, and a 17x9, all with the same offset, calculating clearances is extremely easy.

the 8" will stick out an additional 1/2 inch towards the fender, and an additional 1/2 inch towards the suspension than the 7". The 9" will stick out 1" extra on both sides. If the offsets are not the same, simply use the above reasoning, and then add or subtract clearances depending on the offset.

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Making an 8"+0 fit is all going to boil down to what tire and how much camber you are running. If you ran a 195, you could probably fit them fairly easy, with minimal camber and not rub, as long as you did some fender work.

Either way, I highly suggest not buying 15" wheels, unless you plan on running azenis 615 in the 205/50/15 variety, which would be an excellent choice, because of how cheap you can get the tires for 15". Pretty much any other tire you could get for that setup is just going to have too much sidewall flex.

When you get coilovers, you will see what I mean. Big sidewalls with coilovers feels really bad. You really have to match your wheel/tire setup with your suspension setup, or else your car will not be balanced, and won't feel good at all.

Here is 17x9" +20, bare rim mounted on my raised car (like 0 degrees camber at full rebound, as it is here). 8"+0 will stick out an additional 7mm over this setup. Hope this helps.

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Actually the reason I was looking at those wheels was the cost of the tires, they are dirt cheap compaired to the 17inch tires..

It all depends on if I can sell my wheels to some ricer civic owner..

With the added power of my new SR I know these wheels are just not going to cut it... Way to thin, so I am keeping an eye out on RB motoring for a new set of wider wheels with perfect fitment and no spacers. That would be nice!

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Kenrik wrote:... Way to thin, so I am keeping an eye out on RB motoring for a new set of wider wheels with perfect fitment and no spacers. That would be nice!
Don't forget about memoryfab, rrr-game and there's a couple others that I can't think of right now???

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Just wondering where are all the sportmaxes on Ebay? I don't see the DT-5s or whatever they are called on there anymore. (they are to heavy IMO just wondering)

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Another thing:

What is the point in getting 8" wide 15" wheels?

If you want more grip, you need better tires. Most good stuff for 15" wheels is in 205 sizing. A 205 fits on a 7" wide wheel just fine.

You will really only have a couple options:

Azenis 615, hankook rs-2 or toyo ra-1 in 205/50/15

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toyo ra-1 in 225/50/15.

Ra-1s are like 120 dollars each, so I am assuming you don't want to go that route. That means that you are stuck with 205/50/15. At this point, there is no point in going with 8" wide wheels.

If you want more grip, I say find some decent 16x8s, and mount some hankook rs-2s.

I'm getting som rs-2's myself, but for 17s.

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I'm already running 215s... And I want to run 225s so yeah.

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Kenrik wrote:I'm already running 215s... And I want to run 225s so yeah.
Look around. There are no good 225s in 15" sizes besides super expensive ra-1s.

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and hoosiers, which are even more expensive

kenrik, another thing to consider when you get new wheels, you *will* need more brake, stock are fine for stock engine, but with the power youd probably be better off with z32's so you dont have to run seperate street and track brake packages

if you get z32s, youll need wheels to clear them, and i only have personally seen one 15" wheel clear 30mm Z brakes, those were 15x7 +15 TE-37's, and i know you wont be getting those, with the stuff youre mentioning

so, as Dean said, my opinion would be to go with like a 16x7.5 or a 16x8 with a 225/50/16 tire

heck, my kosei's may be up for sale this winter, depending on how long i wait to switch to 5 lug

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nismofly wrote:and hoosiers, which are even more expensive

kenrik, another thing to consider when you get new wheels, you *will* need more brake, stock are fine for stock engine, but with the power youd probably be better off with z32's so you dont have to run seperate street and track brake packages

if you get z32s, youll need wheels to clear them, and i only have personally seen one 15" wheel clear 30mm Z brakes, those were 15x7 +15 TE-37's, and i know you wont be getting those, with the stuff youre mentioning

so, as Dean said, my opinion would be to go with like a 16x7.5 or a 16x8 with a 225/50/16 tire

heck, my kosei's may be up for sale this winter, depending on how long i wait to switch to 5 lug
First off.. I'm doing the Q45 swap. Calipers, pads etc.. are cheap and the swap does not require new lines or MC...

I have driven cars with the Z32 and the Q45 swaps and honestly you can't really tell a difference between the two.

Anyway... What are the specs of your wheels and how much are you looking to get? I always liked how those wheels look on a 240.

Edit: found the specs... so Chris want to sell me your wheels?

like within the next few weeks
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naed240sx wrote:
Not true.

8"+0 sticks out exactly 65mm farther than the stock 6"+40 wheels. 65 millimeters is 2.6 inches. So.... In order for the sportmax to stick out 2.5 inches, this must mean that the stock wheels stick out 0.1 inches? I don't think so.
I meant to say that the sportmax's will stick out about 2.5 inches farther than the stock wheel does

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Kenrik wrote:Anyway... What are the specs of your wheels and how much are you looking to get? I always liked how those wheels look on a 240.

Edit: found the specs... so Chris want to sell me your wheels?

like within the next few weeks
16x7.5 +22

but nah, it wont be that soon, more like this winter some time

if youre still looking ill let you know

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if you get those you need 225/50's for sure. Those wheels are really heavy as well, especially for 15".

ok all you number crunchers, I HAVE SEEN THOSE WHEELS IN PERSON ON A 240 COUPE, THEY FIT VERY WELL... (for a 15)

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zerothread/184040 Here you go kenrik, this guy has em on his ride. pic is near the bottom

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naed240sx wrote:Here is 17x9" +20
Is that one of the FN's from the GB?

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emperor_lunchbox wrote:
Is that one of the FN's from the GB?
I believe so

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they stick out more than I thought.

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emperor_lunchbox wrote:they stick out more than I thought.
Only because that is with no camber whatsoever.

Here is the front:



It is an easy fitment with the right setup.

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naed240sx wrote:
Only because that is with no camber whatsoever.

Here is the front:



It is an easy fitment with the right setup.
Hey man those look good! fitment is better then I expected.

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ok all you number crunchers, I HAVE SEEN THOSE WHEELS IN PERSON ON A 240 COUPE, THEY FIT VERY WELL... (for a 15)[/QUOTE]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE!!!!!!!!lemme find another pic of this local guy....o offset is the best shEEt! esp in 15x8, with that lip!

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zerothread?id=176194YUMMY!these r gonna rock my verts world, AFTER coilovers LOL

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16x8 +0205/55/16 tires



15x8 +0215/60 tires

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how much camber?

Fitment pics are worthless without camber specs. You can fit 11j on s13 rear with stock fenders with enough camber.


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