sportmax 962s 17x7 17x9 tire size. searched and only got conflicking info.

[hobbit382]

ok since a million and a half people have these (and I know the suck, their ugly,everyone has them, to narrow in the front, why didn't you get 18s, why didn't you get 8 or 9s in the front blah blah blah... infact that all I got from searching) ok I already have them 17x7 in front 17x9 rear. I would like to know what tire sizes fit please. and I read things about needing spacers and not needing them, well whats the truth? agx struts w/ rsr spring. 93 240sx vert. oh and I hate the way narrow tires look, if I want tires like that I would go buy a low rider. normal fit or wider please. thanks a lot. maybe we should have a sticky if everyone keeps asking and everyone has them

[Cameron]

225/40 up front 235/40 rear, and about a 10mm or up spacer up front, considering that the rear is 2 inches wider and is prolly about a +20 something offset we need offsets buddy.

[hobbit382]

sorry thought they were all the same on the sportmax... 38 front and 35 rear

[Cameron]

aahhhhhh... rear needs to be spaced out to atleast a +20 and front to prolly about a +25

and idk sportmax offsets, im just here to help.

[hobbit382]

why? other people are telling me there is no need? can you explain why they are needed please? thanks

[Cameron]

well, seeing that they are 17x9 and there offset is +35.. you are most likely going to have clearance issues.. and i was basing this observation off of the 5zigen Fn01rc 17x9 that is a +20 that if you have z brakes it will just barely clear them.. And you say you dont want a sunken look anywhere, well if you dont want a sunken look, then you would need to space out your front which is 2 inch narrower than your rear at a +20 offset (after spacing) and having your fronts at +38.. so after your rears are spaced and your fronts arent that is really going to make it look sunken.. no it wouldnt look too sunken if you left the rear alone, but depending on what susp. your running and with fwd offsets on a 9 inch wide wheel... your most likely gunna have some sort of clearance prob.. but there you go.. others can argue but im just telling you what i know from general knowledge of offsets and wheel widths.

im assuming you are 4 lug also?

[gumby74]

The world isn't going to end if you do not use spacers.When people speak of using spacers for wack offsets, it is simply for the purpose of bringing the wheels out so that they are flush with the fenders. In essence widening the track of the car.If you have no problems with rolling with the wheels tucked in, sticking out, or aesthetically "just right" that is personal taste. The majority of people will agree certain thingslook odd. Sunken wheels is one of those things. Perfectly fine and functional, it could look better.

[Cameron]

see thats just it i dont really know sportmax wheels, but i know offsets.. and a 17x9 +35 sounds a little whack.. i mean if thats what you want go with it, but im not giving you near as low of an offset as some of these other guys would.. if eds13 comes in here i know for a fact that he would say +12 offset and yokota would prolly just flame ya, so spacing isnt going to kill and gumby is right if you dont mind the rolling of fenders and how great it will look as opposed to sunken than do it..

[hobbit382]

thanks gumby. I wasn't as worried about being "sunken in" as much as fitment and tires. I just see people rolling around with too narrow of a tire on rims and I hate the way it looks. like... 235 on a 9in rim... would 255/40 or 265/35 be ok for the rear? 225/45 for front?

[Cameron]

ok dude with your offsets and that wide of a tire on the rear, dont come crying to me when they wont fit....... ive been thru this... i know these things but i will tell you the sizes, but seeing how ive been acting like a d!ck you prolly wont listen and im sorry.. but 215/40 up front and 235/40 in the rear will be fine... i run a 215 all the way around on 8 inch wide all day and no stretch soo... what makes you think 7 inch would be worse.. nothing.. its smaller.. but 235 on the rear dude..... please trust me.

[hobbit382]

you aren't being a d!ck at all, thanks for the info. I just wish I could get some straight info. everyong has such conflicting advice. 235 seems soooo narrow. the 8in rims on my vr4 had 245 and people where running 275.

[Cameron]

yea, i had the same problems, but youll sooner or later come accross that treasure thread that will answer all your questions.. and thanks for understanding..

P.S

a 235 wide tire is 9.3 inches wide.. the lip of the wheel that hangs over the edge of the tire is prolly half an inch.. on the facing side, and the inside.. so theres really not much stretch at all. when i was planning on getting the fno1s i was gunna get the 9 inch with a 235 tire.. even thats what my local discount tire guy reccomended me even tho i was already bound and determined, but i ended up coming short on money for coilovers so i just compromised with one inch narrower.

Edit: Also youll look on some sites, and it will show what all tire widths are good for on wheel widths.. like heres a short little list

215- 6.5 inch to 8 inch

225-7.0 inch to 8.5 inch

235-8.5 inch to bout 9.5

245-9.0 inch to 9.5

and so on.. the only thing wrong with getting that wide of a tire is that your offsets are pretty high for that size of a tire and wheel.. so if you got a 255 which is exactly 10 inch wide. depending on if you are running coilovers or stock setup it might hit..

But if you already dont know how to convert mm to in. and you have just been blind guessing, its the number of mm divided by 25.4

im just trying to help you compromise on a narrower tire since your offsets are a little diff than the other offsets on a 9 inch wheel, that im used to dealing with, that i know will fit..

-Cam

[ss82480]

If you are going staggered, you should have no clearance problems unless you have 300z brakes. I started with 225s on the front and 255s on the rear, and man the understeer was horrible. Now I have 225's and 245's and its a bit better but stretching those 235s on the rear will prolly serve best.

As for the wheels looking tucked in, the 17x7s in the front will look a bit tucked and the rear 17x9s sit flush with my rear fenders. Hope this helps some. A word of advice, go 5 lug before you get stuck into 4-lug world, its a horrible horrible place!

[gumby74]

Okay, I have had a moment of clarity.IF you have it to spend, I would suggest about 10mm of spacing front and optional in the rear. I have 17x9 + 27 out back on 245/40 tires. That hangs a hair to the outside of the fender, but does not rub anywhere, your +38 should be fine. Was I you, I would space the front out a little for the sake of aesthetics alone. You want to end up somewhere in the low +20's at least. Again, just a suggestion.As for tires, a 215/45 front and a 245/40 rear would be about perfect. The diameters would be about 24.5 inches. I can not suggest a 215/40 for the front as that is waaaay to small a tire. Hopefully you have coilovers because lowering springs will not cut it up front. That gap is HUGE to begin with. Again, just suggestions.

[Cameron]

aahhhhh what i have been saying whole thread ..

[stevespeed]

thought I would warn you guys, there is no such tire size a 225/40/17 I have looked everywhere and they just arnt made by like kuhmo, falken, bridgestone, firestone or heck anyone in america's larger tire dealers like Discount, Belle, and Tire Rack.

[Cameron]

wow.. wtf? im sure you can get some over in japan.. if you like looked on a jdm website.. but the only tires i found that were 224 40 17 were hoosier racing slicks... wow...

[gumby74]

The Nitto line has at least one 225/40 as does Falken.The problem is are either of these really a tire you want, and do they offer the correct size for the rear so as to have a matched set? In my case the answer was no. But then you really dont want a 225/40 up front to begin with.Only my opinion.

[hobbit382]

ok thanks for the input on everything guys but I decided against most of the advice and tried my own way. went with 215/45/17 front 245/40/17 rear and the fitment is great. ummm spacers my ***. the rears are completly flush and almost even stick out a little, spacers of any size would have made it look hideous. the fronts could probably use a little spacer but I'll make that decision after I do an alignment. anyone want pics?

[Cameron]

yes please! , and i figured you wouldnt need spacers on the rear, just the front. CONGRATS MAN!

Edit: and i dont know wtf i was thinking when i said that big of spacers in my earlier posts dude cause to tell you the truth my +35 front and rear are lined up and down perfect with all fenders.. wow what time was it when i posted that..? haha my bad man... didnt mean to get you confused...

[gumby74]

didn't I tell you Craig?I know I told you 'cause I heard me say it.didn't I tell you?

now for the pictures. Show me your set up please.

[hobbit382]

sorry didn't get a chance to wash it...

[yokota180sx]

so if yuo dont want the real info

go to yuor local tire personask what they reccomenduse it

its not lik eyour going to need real rubber anyways

[yokota180sx]

and toget anywhere near flushyuo need a 40mm spacer in teh frontand a 20 in the rear

[Cameron]

dun dun dun..... i was waiting for this to happen.. Yoko did you get suspended or something? haha

[yokota180sx]

yeah i was int eh corner for a week

[Cameron]

haha, i just noticed fun sponge.. hahaha well glad your back.

[hobbit382]

umm 20 in the rear? umm ok.... well since the rim itself sticks out past the fender already I don't see how a 20mm spacer is going to make it flush??? thanks for the advice and real rubber? whats that suppsed to mean?

[yokota180sx]

ok dudefit your own wheels

when did it stick out past the fender?when you put the wheel on without preloading the suspension

im done.

[hobbit382]

umm the whole time... you can see in the pics