splitting the Q45 forum into three sub forums

[Qproject]

wouldn't it be a good idea to split this section into 3 "f50 -y33 -g50" sub forums ?

they are 3 totally different cars and would make it so much more convenient for users.

[elwesso]

interesting suggestion, but I dont think we have enough traffic to ellicit that. Besdies, I want all the Q owners to know each other and have a sense of community and by splitting it up people will only want to go to their section.

BTW, they really arent THAT different.

[maxnix]

FGY33, Y34 and F50 are virtually identical platform and suspension.

There is an understandable progression from the totally unique G50 through the FYG33, F50 and Y34, from VH to VK series V8 and the 4 speed auto to the 5 speed auto.

Many members make this progression in their personal cars also.
Modified by maxnix at 1:18 PM 10/11/2006

[qship96]

How about 1 forum for the "real" q45 {90-96},and one for the rest{rebadged Nissan Cima`s}

[Falkdesigns]

Brian, I think you are out of control man. First off, it's FGY, not FYG, and second of all, every model of Q has more letters to it as well, it's not just an F50, so why in God's name do you have to post all the associated letters with ONLY the Y33 variation of Q? No one is going to get confused with G50, Y33 & F50. Christ dude.

And btw qship96, the Y33 is the best Q.

[maxnix]

Tell it to Nissan, Kevin. That's what the factory calls them, not me.

Everyone must read an official publication at some point, I hope!

[Falkdesigns]

No dude, that's what YOU call them. Nissan calls them CIMA's. We "in the know" refer to chassis codes, and ONLY on the Y33 do you insist on using the letters prior to Y.

[elwesso]

Wow, talk about completely USELESS conversation....

However, brian is still right. When your talking about how they refer to them in the parts book, F50 is for 02+ Q, FGY33 is for 97-01, and G50 is for the 90-96..

In the FSM, it refers to the F50 as the 02Q, the G50 as the 90-96 Q, and the FY33 as the 97-01.... Y33 is much too vague, because that could include many variants.... with the V6 and so forth....

the Y33 refers to the nissan CIMA, the FY33 refers to the V8 Cima, the FGY33 refers to the north american Nissan/Infiniti Q45.... EDIT: so technically FY33 is a sufficient description of the chassis.

G50 refers to the Infiniti Q45 no matter how you slice it (same basic car, same motor, trans and so on), there is different nomenclature for the Nissan President (like HG50 or something).... In the case of the G50, that alone is enough information, because the other variants simply have different trim levels and so forth (the president is basically the same car except longer in the soverign version)

Same thing goes with the J30. Its based off the Y32 chassis, but its a JPY32... A Y32 is a cima, a JPY32 is an Infiniti J30..... I think the JPY32 is also referred to as the J-Ferie, but im not sure... There may even differnet nomenclature for those with the 4.1 vs the 3.0. So yes, it does make a difference.....

the G50 still remains the only car labeled by nissan as the "infiniti Q45". The other G50 series models had different nomenclature....

IM not sure why any Y33 owner would want to call it a "Y33" because theyre saying their car is a Nissan Cima, not an infiniti Q45.... Which is fine by me.

Im not taking anyone side here, i am just presenting the facts as they are.

[Falkdesigns]

Here's my logic: there was only ONE variation of Y33 sold in the U.S. so why can't we just KEEP IT SIMPLE? Saying it's a Y33 doesn't mean it's a Cima. It's not a big deal, but I guarantee that EVERYONE in the USA that knows about the 2nd generation of Q, isn't gonna freak out if you just put Y33 and go "OMG!! What version of Y33 is that?" It's pretty self explanatory since there was only ONE version of Y33 ever sold in the U.S. but then, maybe I'm logical and others need to have their hands held.

[elwesso]

Thats true enough.... I agree that anyone you (or any Q-savvy) talk to is gonna associate Y33 with the 2nd gen Q.... But theres always that "technically" where you could clarify things...

I completely agree its not a big deal at all, so HOW was it again we got to this point (please dont answer that)....

At any rate, to get this thread back on track, im gonna say, as the Q forum moderator, "it ain't happenin now, maybe later"

[Falkdesigns]

I think it's good that we're all together under one "umbrella" so to speak. I like to see what other gen Q owners have to say on different topics, and I like to read threads that don't only pertain to my generation of Q, although I am mostly interested in what other 2nd gen Q owners are doing.

[Jesda]

I miss the old Infiniti General. I realize it had to change, but I miss it. We were basically the retard-free version of NICO.

[Ozzie]

G50 refers to the Infiniti Q45 no matter how you slice it (same basic car, same motor, trans and so on), there is different nomenclature for the Nissan President (like HG50 or something).... In the case of the G50, that alone is enough information, because the other variants simply have different trim levels and so forth (the president is basically the same car except longer in the soverign version)

Whoa...... I just checked my build plate, and it says that my car is a HG50....

Does that mean I own a president?

[elwesso]

I was wrong, i was thinking JHG50 is the president

HG50 is the Int'l Q45, NG50 is the NA Q45.

[elwesso]

I think it's good that we're all together under one "umbrella" so to speak. I like to see what other gen Q owners have to say on different topics, and I like to read threads that don't only pertain to my generation of Q, although I am mostly interested in what other 2nd gen Q owners are doing.

[kimrober]

HG50 is the "active suspension" version and I think the JHG50 could be LWB version of the G50 chasis.

[Skibane]

I think it's good that we're all together under one "umbrella" so to speak. I like to see what other gen Q owners have to say on different topics, and I like to read threads that don't only pertain to my generation of Q, although I am mostly interested in what other 2nd gen Q owners are doing.

I agree completely.

Splitting the forum up into 3 different sub-groups would dilute the technical talent too much, particulalry when all 3 generations have so much in common. Q's are rare birds, and there just aren't that many people around who are knowledgeable about them. Why reduce that number even more?

As long as everyone includes some info (either in their posts or sig lines) to indicate which generation they're discussing, there's no good reason for not sharing the same forum.

[Raxephon]

I miss the old Infiniti General. I realize it had to change, but I miss it. We were basically the retard-free version of NICO.

[BadQ45t]

I second anlasak's quote of Jesda, I miss the old Infiniti general too.

I vote not split it up, keep it as one....and I vote for the Y33 as best Q...

[maxnix]

No dude, that's what YOU call them. Nissan calls them CIMA's.

You need to read the FSM and Nissan FAST parts manuals. I think the FGY33 used in the parts manuals is used to specify the US FY33 model.

All 1997 (1996 JDM, I think) to 2001 Cima referred to as FY33 by Nissan.

[maxnix]

HG50 is the "active suspension" version and I think the JHG50 could be LWB version of the G50 chasis.

My 1995 Q45 both say HG50 on the firewall plaque, but neither is an active.

[maxnix]

I miss the old Infiniti General. I realize it had to change, but I miss it. We were basically the retard-free version of NICO.

Gotta dumb down as we get more less educated and less curious owners.

Faith and preconeptions must triumph over real knowledge, or people get upset. Fortunately, the former become extinct sooner.

At least we now have candidates for the Darwin awards!