SPL vs Battle Version

[logoung]

So I need to get RUCA, Rear Toe Arms, Rear Forward Links, and Front Tension Rods. THe difference in price between getting everything Battle Version or everything SPL is only a $40 difference, so price isn't that much of a concern between the two, but the question is, which product line is more reliable, higher quality, a better buy? There were a few opinions of both companies, and everyone has said good things about them, but any definite answer? The cheapest route i found would be to get Battle Version for the rear components and SPL for the front components, but again, which company is "better"?

[Dori Dori]

They are both good but I would get SPL (and did get SPL) b/c of their excellent customer service.

[Dano]

SPL doesn't sell their own RUCAs for the S14, but they do sell CUSCO RUCA's at an AWESOME price, i got some through them and the quality is simply outstounding. I also HIGHLY reccomend their aluminum subframe collars, some of the best money ive spent thus far. SPL rocks!

-Dan

[chmercer]

SPL for sure. and the cusco ruca is one of the strongest rear upper arms available, if you pick up a cusco ruca and a battle version ruca, you will be like, woah!!

[logoung]

You guys think that it's a little overkill to get all this stuff just because i want to have a properly done alignment on Eibach Prokit and KYB AGX????

[onosqv]

You guys think that it's a little overkill to get all this stuff just because i want to have a properly done alignment on Eibach Prokit and KYB AGX????

For the last time, YES . You've been nit picky over this for the last month. Sure, it's a 100-300, but you should realize you don't need it "now" or in the immediate future. Dropping your car 1" won't do much on your alignment, max will make it -2 degrees (which is what I got on AGX + Sportlines before RUCA).

You'll be FINE.

And if you've been driving on ur pro + agx and haven't gotten an alignment yet, u've just pooed on your tires. The camber bolts will suffice for your drop. The other advantage of the arms are that they are now spherical/pillow bushings (depending on what you get), which will help w/ slop if you have any (10-16 yr old bushings tend to leak).

It all boils down to how cheap you want to go on your car and what you will be doing in it, you can get some ebay ones for about 130 shipped to your door. Shoot, I'll send you my ebay ones for $80 shipped to your door, haha.

RUCA = 100% you'll be ok - you don't "lose" anything

camber bolts = 99.953823% you'll be ok - you will lose an extra $30 to realign the rear compared to getting it in the first place.

[logoung]

yea but if you compare the diameter of the camber bolts that Eibach sells, to the stock bolt, it's way thinner man. You want to trust that much weight on a thinner bolt....ok....

[chmercer]

save up for coilovers instead of having adjustable links on a shock and spring setup.

edit - do you even know what half of that stuff is that you are wanting to buy? you dont need tension rods traction rods or rear toe arms to get a factory spec alignment if you are just using drop springs...

[logoung]

The factory arms are only adjustable to a certain degree, in fact, i was informed that you can't necessarily adjust alignment with stock arms becuase they are static....

[KFL]

I dunno what drop the eibach prokits are but...I ran agx/maxspeed 1.4/1.3 in drop. last year on my 95 240 went for alignment needed bolts got some from the shop. Front was back nominal spec, rear was also with nominal spec and was adjusted. I have the print outs somewhere in my garage..1-the camber bolts are fine and do hold up..remember 2 bolts in the front shock top/bottom so all weight isn't on just the 1 ecentric bolt .

2-coilovers v.s. shock and spring setup. it's all a matter of personal preference pros and cons of each have been discussed most likely..cost,drivability,adjustability,

[onosqv]

The factory arms are only adjustable to a certain degree, in fact, i was informed that you can't necessarily adjust alignment with stock arms becuase they are static....

They are static - hence camber bolts (and condition of your bushings ) - also as I said earlier.

Camber bolts are standard practice, most of the ppl on this board who lower their car, whether it be via springs or coilovers, usually have had experience w/ camber bolts. Many of these guys also track their car. Eibach stuff costs more than ebay stuff for a reason, and it's not just name brand.

To the really important question to answer if this is overkill for you or not (which it probably is w/ the little info we have), have you already installed the eibach + prokit?

If you have, go get an alignment asap, unless you wanna spend a couple hundred dollars replacing your tires prematurely. Or at least get a free alignment check first, to see how much you are out of spec.

If you haven't, why not get ruca's or camber bolts or nothing? You are not lowering your car 4", or 2" for that matter.

And if you are really tight on a budget, why not go gr-2's w/ pro-kits? will save you a good 100 or so dollars and still handle better than busted old shocks.

RUCA's and even camber bolts when lowering on pro-kits is like using a condom during foreplay... "mostly" unnecessary given a few factors.

[Nismo_Freak]

I worked at SPL for 7 months.

In that 7 months the only time someone ever broke our multi-link parts was when they hit something, or when they improperly installed it.

Take that as you want.

[Red coupe]

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[chmercer]

The factory arms are only adjustable to a certain degree, in fact, i was informed that you can't necessarily adjust alignment with stock arms becuase they are static....

there is plenty of adjustment on the stock arms to handle a 1" drop or whatever.. but yea if you are bent on getting arms, spl!

[logoung]

Thanks guys....

[yeap]

I have all battle version, and they are awesome. They too have great customer service, and products. I would say go with the cheaper brand, they are nearly the same.

[Nismo_Freak]

they are nearly the same.

Actually ... they aren't.

Different materials, different finish, different rod ends.

[cyrus240sx]

well I was going to ask the same question about spl vs. battle version.... and i believed i needed the same pieces. Now the reason I need all the adjustability is that i have really wide tires on my car and without a very custom alignment (that i will set up at my job with our new hunter alignment rack ) my rear tires will hit my fenders, and my front tension rod bushings are shot.... now i know that the rucas from spl are cusco brand with the cheapest price ive found on the internet.... but what about all the other arms? are they made in house and are spl brand or another brand entirely( like cusco )?

[Nismo_Freak]

well I was going to ask the same question about spl vs. battle version.... and i believed i needed the same pieces. Now the reason I need all the adjustability is that i have really wide tires on my car and without a very custom alignment (that i will set up at my job with our new hunter alignment rack ) my rear tires will hit my fenders, and my front tension rod bushings are shot.... now i know that the rucas from spl are cusco brand with the cheapest price ive found on the internet.... but what about all the other arms? are they made in house and are spl brand or another brand entirely( like cusco )?

Another brand, but a very well known one in Japan

[cyrus240sx]

any way you could give a name.... or is it a trade secret?

[Nismo_Freak]

any way you could give a name.... or is it a trade secret?

I'll let someone else comment on it.

Besides a name is nothing more than a label. It's what you are buying that is the point.