SPL Parts Question

Post by **drifter_for_life06** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:44 pm

For those of you with the SPL Parts subframe collars:

1.) The Pro's and/or Con's of the collars?

2.) Worth the buy?

Recommended?

Anyone know if Anands write-up on the collars for his S14 would be the same procedure for an S13?
Modified by drifter_for_life06 at 9:07 PM 9/14/2005

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:05 pm

Pros: I can hear my differential , reduced body roll, less wheel hop, better handling, very easy to install, cool looking.

Cons: Some may say they are overpriced, but whatever, they are high quality and very well engineered.....

my bushings were moaning as I tightend my subframe back down and the collars squezed into them. I dont think there is any play at all in my subframe anymore.

Def worth the buy, def reccomended.

Post by **574-240sx** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:07 pm

I like mine alot. I upgraded a bunch of stuff when I put the collars on. the rear subframe seems to have less play. If I had the money at the time I should have went with the SPL pro aluminum subframe bushings. I drive my car maybe a few times a week so the solid bushing don't bother me too much.

Post by **drifter_for_life06** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:35 pm

so far so good

looks like these could be on my next weeks parts order list

anyone else want to chime in?

Post by **drifter_for_life06** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:33 am

bump

still wondering if Anands S14 write-up applies to S13

Post by **naed240sx** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:16 pm

there is a writeup on spl's site

Post by **drifter_for_life06** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:38 pm

isnt that for a Z?

Post by **naed240sx** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:52 pm

um i dont think so, but it works fine if it is. Really, it doesnt matter how you do it. just figure out a way to get them in.

Post by **Fenvy** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:53 pm

personally, I would buy things like tension rods, tie rods ends... and other multilink suspension parts from that but come on... a subframe bushing? it's like intake tube or strut bar... just get it from ebay

Post by **ddgsxr504** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:28 pm

Thats where I got mine, for only $40 shipped!

Post by **Dattebayo** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:44 pm

It gets rid of all the wheel hop. Thats the only noticable feeling I get from it while drifting. I imagine if you had coilovers it would dampen some of the road noise from the freeway. The handling thing has to be all crap, except of course from the added grip from no hop like you would on stock stuff...

Post by **574-240sx** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:00 pm

Ride is a little rougher because it compresses the bushing. It doesn't get rid of wheel hop it just lessens the effect, it depends what suspension and tires you are running.

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:31 am

2BN_S13 wrote:It gets rid of all the wheel hop. Thats the only noticable feeling I get from it while drifting. I imagine if you had coilovers it would dampen some of the road noise from the freeway. The handling thing has to be all crap, except of course from the added grip from no hop like you would on stock stuff...

By compressing the subframe bushings, and not allowing them to flex, the collars will actually eliminate some body roll, which will help with handling. It also makes your car's suspension more responsive in the rear. Im not saying it makes huge differences, but they help.

Post by **rico05** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:09 am

The ultimate test for mine was the turn onto my street. You come off of a 55mph road, and just as you start to turn the wheel back from near lock, there is a large hump in the road. Taken with any speed previously, and the rear would bob and sway, making quick turns onto my road near impossible for fear of death. With the collars, the back feels like it jumps then settles. Very solid feel.

PS, I am running eBay SLP bushings. $60 shipped, and just as good as any of the others out there (Kazama, SPL, etc).

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:40 am

SLP? sounds like a blatant ripoff of SPL. I paid the extra money for the spl ones. I am sure that they are the same thing, but It feels better supporting those guys (who actually care about cars, and spent time developing products), than some random dude on ebay.

Post by **lee.** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:33 am

Support the people that actually support your car! Anyone that takes the time to R&D their products deserves your buck ten time over then the cheap knock off guys. You never know what kind of cheap materials those ebay guys use.

Post by **drifter_for_life06** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:44 pm

not to mention they are a sponsor

Post by **Fenvy** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:52 pm

I have no doubt that spl tension rod is better than most ebays

but come on.... subframe bushing? everyone copy each other on this one

if you take the spl, ebay, kazama... you will findout that they are exactly the same

I wouldn't be suprised if they are made by the same company

understand when you can go cheap and when you can not

you can go cheap on subframe bushing but not coilovers

you can go cheap on oil catch can but not oil pans

you know those injen intake that some people paid like 100$ more for? well they are no better than the ebay ones

the point is.... subframe bushing is something to go cheap with

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:54 pm

Loveless wrote:I have no doubt that spl tension rod is better than most ebays

but come on.... subframe bushing? everyone copy each other on this one

if you take the spl, ebay, kazama... you will findout that they are exactly the same

I wouldn't be suprised if they are made by the same company

understand when you can go cheap and when you can not

you can go cheap on subframe bushing but not coilovers

you can go cheap on oil catch can but not oil pans

you know those injen intake that some people paid like 100$ more for? well they are no better than the ebay ones

I am not debating the quality issue. I know that the ebay ones are probably exactly the same. (As I said above). I am just saying that I prefer to support SPL, so that they can continue to make badass products, and because they actually care about car owners, and support everything they make 100%.

and yes, injen makes much better intakes than 90% of the ebay ones. Ebay ones are smaller diameter, not covered in a heat resistant coating, and often have poor fitment.

Post by **Fenvy** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:17 pm

regarding the intake, do you know that for a fact? take an integra I drove before: there is a choice that range from 2.25" to 3" on ebay listings. heat resistant coating doesn't worth 100$ to me. Fitment issue is something that you hear from people but haven't actually tried yourself. How do you know that when an ebay intake won't have a fitment issue then? look for the actual pictured installed on a car + postitve feedbacks on a seller. I am not trying to be rude but I hear too many people complain about ebay with little to no exp regarding them.... terms like egay deviates the benefits that ebay offers to both seller/buyer

I'd love to support this site but I'd rather subscribe to a fee of 5$ a month to visit than pay spl for it

5$ may seem marginal but I like this site and if many of us feel the same and willing to dig into pocket just the same, we shouldn't have to rely on sponsors so much

again, I like spl parts, I like their services and some of their product. I would definately buy their tension rods (next week) but I wouldn't over pay or something simple as subframe bushing

Post by **dfw240_EE** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:52 pm

Well, I am going to get new tie rods here very soon. I just need to find a local supplier.

My thought is that since tie rods really aren't a wear item (a small fender bender knocked mine out of whack) I do want to go with higher quality than Autozone OEM replacement ($50)! However the SPL rods are some $250 or so. They are nice rods, and they have a slick bump-steer adjustment feature.

Problem: My car isn't lowered and it won't be so for a LONG time. So this is alot of money for a product with a feature I don't need. The middle ground I am going for will be Tein Tie Rods. $160, better quality than the remanufactured replacements but not outlandish.

Now for my new tension rods, if I do need them, I will go with SPL probably. They only want $170, where Tein wants around $200 on sportcompactonly.com.

Post by **Fenvy** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:59 pm

not only that, the tein one isn't as beefy as spl

spl is at 32mm from last I checked

Post by **ddgsxr504** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:10 pm

I agree with both sides of the argument. On one hand we should shop SPL that way we further fund their R&D to come up with great products for out 240's but in that case why is SPL over charging us anywhere from $20-$40 for some ALUMINUM spacers that your average machinest can turn out on a lathe for way cheaper??? It's not like SPL invented the damn things!

Either way I totally agree with loveless, you can go cheap on some things but you just have to be smart enough to know which ones.

Post by **Fenvy** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:15 pm

it's not really overcharging either

80$ seems to be a resonable price but it's just that ebay price is even cheaper!

Post by **ddgsxr504** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:22 pm

Well either way if I can get the same $hit that does the same thing for less money then guess what. The only reason I would buy the more expensive stuff is because a lot of times it looks better than the cheap one but that only applies to things you will see or that are supposed to be aesthetically pleasing!

Post by **dfw240_EE** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:00 am

Do you mean that the tie rods are 32mm or that the tension rods are 32mm?

Post by **Juujai** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:44 am

thread jack...

how is splparts.com anyway right now

they're in austin texas i believe and hurricane rita is about to hit houston which is not too far from austin...??

Post by **naed240sx** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:03 am

I live in austin. It is sunny and hot. Rain is supposed to come tommorow, thats bout it.

Post by **Anand** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:15 pm

Austin will be alright..

and the process for S13 is pretty much the same as S14...

it makes a big difference.. I would recomend these... I bought them from SPL but if you get them from ebay, they are the same.. as long as it's a peice of aluminum and not hollow or something. make sure its solid.

other then that, they will be exactly the same, it's not rocket science to make them. If they had the ebay ones for cheaper when I bought mine... i would have gotten them from ebay but when I bought them from SPL, they had the best price.

Post by **Fenvy** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:08 pm

Anand wrote:as long as it's a peice of aluminum and not hollow or something. make sure its solid.

what does that suppose to mean?

are you saying that this is hollow and so so good as these?

didn't someone on this forum asid cutting/burning the old bushing off resulted in rusting in the long run?

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