Speedometer Swap

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As I've mentioned in other threads my car is a US spec 1991 Q45A and the Speedometer has the mph displayed on the outside and the km/h on the inside. Since I live in Canada and km/h is used here, I thougt it would be better to have a Canadian part. I found some clusters today at a salvage yard.

I know my cluster is different since I have an Active car, but if I were to swap on the speedometer would it work and what years will work for my car? One of speedometers I saw today only had km/h, another one had km/h on the outside and mph on the inside.

Mine looks similar to this one:



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You could use a JDM one from an active Q

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Got any pics of a JDM one?

I found this:

http://www.hirano-tire.co.jp/impul/impul27.htm

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lino wrote:Got any pics of a JDM one?
Here's one out of a President

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More JDM goodness

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anlasak wrote:
Here's one out of a President
Only 180km/h?

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lino wrote:Just found this:

http://store.yahoo.co.jp/trunk....html
Modified from IMPUL

Nice though

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You can actually buy JUST the speedo/odo assy and swap it into your current cluster, negating the need to find an active one and all that jazz..

In theory, you could find a cluster for 90-93 canadian cluster and just swap that part int the cluster.

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elwesso wrote:You can actually buy JUST the speedo/odo assy and swap it into your current cluster, negating the need to find an active one and all that jazz..

In theory, you could find a cluster for 90-93 canadian cluster and just swap that part int the cluster.
So 1990-1993 Speedo should be good. I guess I'll just have to choose whether to have only km/h or both km/h and mph on the inside.

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No. the active suspension speedo/odo is different from the standard. there are 2-3 extra 'inputs' that is rerouted to/from ecu, speed sensor and active computer.

also the non-active model doesn't have the actsus indicator and maybe not the slip indicator.

you'll need to find an active speedo (metric) or send the your current speedo (us) along with a non-active speedo (metric) to keith bowers. he can swap out the circuit boards.

i've tried 3 times and failed (and i'm a computer engineering major), so i would suggest letting him do it.

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that shouldnt be the case if your just swapping the speedo, not the whole instrument cluster.

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wes, the speedo is the part with the extra active suspension stuff. both active and non-active instrument clusters have all the inputs, it's just whether or not the speedo has the electronics to read the data.

trust me i've taken apart 4 instrument clusters (1 active, 3 non-active).

if you use a non-active speedo, with an active q, the active suspension will go into error mode because it is not getting the vehicular speed.

for some odd reason, nissan decided to forward speed input from the instrument cluster to the active computer.

here is a pic of the circuit board of a non-active speedo. the active speedo has a connection on N1P/R. It gets its input from 16p on the instrument cluster.


elwesso wrote:that shouldnt be the case if your just swapping the speedo, not the whole instrument cluster.
Modified by franknitty69 at 4:30 PM 3/25/2006
Modified by franknitty69 at 4:31 PM 3/25/2006

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franknitty69 wrote:No. the active suspension speedo/odo is different from the standard. there are 2-3 extra 'inputs' that is rerouted to/from ecu, speed sensor and active computer.

also the non-active model doesn't have the actsus indicator and maybe not the slip indicator.

you'll need to find an active speedo (metric) or send the your current speedo (us) along with a non-active speedo (metric) to keith bowers. he can swap out the circuit boards.

i've tried 3 times and failed (and i'm a computer engineering major), so i would suggest letting him do it.
Thank you very much for the post! That saves me a lot of time, money and possible frustration. Maybe I'll keep mine for the time being and consider buying a non-active speedo (metric) and a speedo (us) and have Keith swap out the circuit boards when I get around to it.

Thanks again


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