Speeding Ticket

[Bubba1]

Big question: Were you really doing 60 in a 30 zone? I hope you realize the cop does not necessarily need a radar gun to cite you for speeding at twice the speed limit. Just like he doesn't need a video camera to cite you for driving thru a stop sign, or have to provide photos if you parked at an expired parking meter. We're talking about going TWICE the speed limit, not 2 mph over it. That much over the limit is pretty easy to determine without a radar. If I were the cop, I'd think the same thing about your attitude. You should have politely asked what method he used to determine your speed, and how fast he thought you were goingplus mention how you felt you were not speeding. But asking twice if he could "prove" it implies guilt.

Most tickets will explain how you were clocked and the speed. Of course if you were actually going 60 in a 30, then you were driving like an moron and should be ticketed. But if you're innocent, then by all means, go to court to fight it, and consult a lawyer.

[U12 2NR]

If you knew you were doing 35, you should have said "Officer, i know for a fact that I was going 35 mph, being that i had just looked at my speedometer" instead of asking for proof.

[pgt892]

Like someone said earlier there are other ways of getting your speed other than radar. I would bring the case to court. Often times even if you don't completely get the case dropped you will receive a lesser charge. Always take it to court.

[TrunkMonkey]

Ok so asking him to show me proof on how he got me doing 60 in a 30 automatically says that im guilty..?? Thats a bunch of crap..!! 1st off, I was pissed cause he pulled me over for something i DID NOT DO..!!! If you know you were NOT speeding and he pulled you over and told you you were speeding, that would piss you off too.!!! Especially if he mistaked your car for someone else's.... But in this case, I was behind a TAXI cab who was driving 35 mph, when that taxi cab turned off, I continued at 35 mph until i got to my street which was about 300 feet more to go. I know i was doing 35 mph, HE WAS WRONG..!!

if you aren't guilty, then why didn't you mention all of this in your original post? sounds kinda fishy to me.

-demetrius

[deftdrummer]

here's my deal. 1 week ago exactly i got a ticket by a CHP who used radar. He pulled me over for doing 55 in a 35 and told me that. They dont have to tell you a damn thing about how they got you, just know that you got caught.

Explaination: there is a new type of technology they have called "instant on" that enables officers' radar guns to actually turn on just long enough to clock your speed and turn off again. When i got pulled over that would explain the strong signal for like 1 second and then it went completely away. Then he was on my azz and i got a ticket.

I too have a $300 radar detector (escort passport 8500) and this thing works so well that's the ONLY reason i didn't slow down when i got the signal..i thought he was on another street next to mine!. However, in order to pull me over he had to have his radar OFF cause he was behind me!!

One last thing: You can fight this in court, but there are only a few ways of winning. Asking him with attitude about how he got you was a stupid mistake. Now if you decide to fight it, you can count on the officer to show up just to make your life hell. Otherwise, most officers don't even show up therefore your ticket is dismissed.

I got another ticket last night (local police this time) and i was doing 60+ in a 35. He gave me the ticket on the grounds that "he did 55 and couldn't catch me easily" The detector never went off therefore i KNOW he didn't use it. He even said he didnt. If your hauling azz, you get pulled over...enough said.

[89240sx]

Just go to court and tell the judge the police officer refused to show you the radar... is the radar information on the ticket? You will probably get out of it.

[soilwork240sx]

um cops not showing up most of the time is bs. seeing as how they get paid extra to show up. not only that you were probably speeding and need to slow down. i really dont belive he would just add 25mph to what you claim to have been doing.

[deftdrummer]

soilwork let me give you a piece of advice. First off, read my post THOROUGHLY before you make stupid comments. I never once "claimed" anything about how fast i was actually going. Basically i was speeding and i got pulled over without being gunned.

SECOND it is a GREAT inconvenience for police officers to go to stuff like that to fight against some quibbling little kid that just got his lisence. They basically dont care one way or another if you get out of your ticket, unless of course you pissed them off to begin with. I have 2 friends who's dads are police officers. One is a CHP and the other a local cop, im not making this stuff up.

lastly, you contributed absolutely nothing to the post. I am trying to help the kid with his ticket, your 2 cents dont matter here chump.

[Jesda]

Cops. The low-end footsoldiers of the government. In some cities you cant be a cop if you score too high on the intelligence and aptitude tests. Surprised?

Look, you were not wrong to ask for proof. He was wrong for not presenting it. You didnt ask for much. And no matter what your tone was, its his DUTY, as an enforcer of the law, to provide proof or an explanation for him pulling you over and inconveniencing you. Of course, Im sure he cared more about his quota than right and wrong.

If he was pacing you, he could have said "I paced you at 60." Or "Is on my radar. Here's the slip." or "It seemed like 60 when you passed by."

But he didnt. Another overzealous armed monkey stuck patrolling traffic.

I wish you luck in court. Nail his *** to the wall.

-Jesda

[APEXi240]

Did your ticket specify 60 in a 35, or was it a careless ticket, or excessive speeding ticket? Because if its either of the later (or is it latter?) you are basically beat because that makes the ticket vague.

Just so you know, I know even mean, stupid, worthless cops that don't pull me over for 5 over, and I have at least 2 reasons for them to ALWAYS pull me over. Unless the cop specifically knew who you were and didn't like you...I hightly doubt you were only going 35.

Quotas are a falicy (sp?). Do you think that the state assembly will give out more money to the town for a certain number of tickets? Do you honestly think state congresses would allow a law, or an appropriations committee pass something like that?

[89240sx]

Cops. The low-end footsoldiers of the government. In some cities you cant be a cop if you score too high on the intelligence and aptitude tests. Surprised?

Look, you were not wrong to ask for proof. He was wrong for not presenting it. You didnt ask for much. And no matter what your tone was, its his DUTY, as an enforcer of the law, to provide proof or an explanation for him pulling you over and inconveniencing you. Of course, Im sure he cared more about his quota than right and wrong.

If he was pacing you, he could have said "I paced you at 60." Or "Is on my radar. Here's the slip." or "It seemed like 60 when you passed by."

But he didnt. Another overzealous armed monkey stuck patrolling traffic.

I wish you luck in court. Nail his *** to the wall.

-Jesda

Ok, first of all this post is completely ignorant... You actually believe if they score too high on an aptitude and intelligence test they will be denied???? come on man

and secondly ...COPS DO NOT HAVE QUOTAS!

EDIT: So dont be another overzealous armed posting monkey unless you know what you are talking about.

[TrueSlide]

99% of ppl when they see blue lights, hit the brake, look down and see a different speed then what they were clocked at

[deftdrummer]

that is not true. Cops (not in all divisions) do have quotas. I know this for a fact. Not only that, but ticketing is an EXCELLENT way for the city to collect $$ that they otherwise wouldn't have. If they didn't benefit from the $$ why would they make the punishment cash then?? Cause its the one thing they know we all have, and the one thing we all want.

[bp2ooo]

I know for a fact that cops due have quotas. One reason i am good friends with two local city cops. And another reason my uncle was a state trooper, then became a judge. It might not be because the governement will give them x amount of dollars for x amount of tickets written, but it is a way for the chief or who ever is in charge of the partoling cops to regulate how much they do. If a cop works a month and turns in 1 ticket, what did he do with all his time? park at his house and take a nap? wait a dunken doughnuts? or fall asleep in a parking lot. It is similar to a sales man that works out of his house. If he doesn't sell x amount of good's he doesn't deserve his paycheck...... I know this is true because i have asked my uncle, and both the local cops about it. As far as your ticket goe's if the cop isn't there it doesn't meen your home free. They usually have a prosecutor fromt he state there, which holds up in court. For the ticket, just get a lawyer. You would be amazed how good they are at making stuff just disapear. I have had 3 tickets this year, and havn't paid a singal fine for any of them. They just all get dismissed, and the judge says drive safier. And i say ok, and im fine. later

[Bubba1]

Ok so asking him to show me proof on how he got me doing 60 in a 30 automatically says that im guilty..?? Thats a bunch of crap..!! 1st off, I was pissed cause he pulled me over for something i DID NOT DO..!!! If you know you were NOT speeding and he pulled you over and told you you were speeding, that would piss you off too.!!! Especially if he mistaked your car for someone else's.... But in this case, I was behind a TAXI cab who was driving 35 mph, when that taxi cab turned off, I continued at 35 mph until i got to my street which was about 300 feet more to go. I know i was doing 35 mph, HE WAS WRONG..!!

98K. First I guess you didn't read my post very well. I said it IMPLIES guilt, not automatically says your guilty. Bear in mind, in your opening thread, you mentioned nothing about being innocent. So you need to back off a bit. My crystal ball doesn't always work perfectly.

Second, no one is happy to be pulled over by a cop for speeding, so being pissed is irrelevent. However, how you behave with an officer is extremely relevant. That could be the difference between a getting warning and a reckless driving ticket, If you act like a pissed argumentative kid, trust me, you're not inspiring the cop to issue a warning. Common sense dictates that you to stay calm and courteous when dealing with an officer that pulls you over. If you feel you're innocent, tell him so. But you only receive respect if you give it.

You might want to re-read my response. And if you decide to go to court, I suggest you leave the anger at home.

Good luck

[ZenKid_S14]

Cops don't have a set quota per se, but their performance is somewhat judged on how much work they've shown, and tickets is proof that they're doing something instead of sleeping at home eating donuts. They don't have to bring in x amount of tickets every month, but they do have to bring in some to prove that they're actually doing somthing. Once cop might have given 30 tickets or so for the month to show his work, yet another might have only given 10 but at the same time handed out a DUI, stopped a burglary, and nabbed some guy doing drugs. So they don't have specific quota, but giving out tickets shows that they're actually working so they give out tickets. hehe so be careful aruond the end of the months if any cops are lacking performance, they're doing their jobs too and they don't wanna get fired either.

[U12 2NR]

cops show up to court, maybe in the past the didn't, but these days you better be ready to see the officer ready with a prewritten story about how his radar gun is well tuned, how many special courses he took to learn the properations of the radar gun..etc etc etc. Unless you have a good story, or can get a plea of some sort, you'll only embarass yourself in court.

[deftdrummer]

now your just getting weird.

[Mr1der]

damn dude, 60+ in a 35?

you were trying to get that pizza before it got cold too weren't you?:)

[Nathan]

It's outrageous to think that police dont have some kind of quota system...and it's readily apparent at the end of the month too (at least it sure is here).

[Jesda]

Now this thread is interesting!

Actually, a few years ago Dateline did a report on how some municipalities disqualify you from becoming an officer if you score too high on aptitude tests. The justification was that the job was too mundane, and required someone who wouldnt become bored by it.

-Jesda

[Jesda]

Ok, first of all this post is completely ignorant...

EDIT: So dont be another overzealous armed posting monkey unless you know what you are talking about.

Let me make something clear to you, kid. I've been on both sides of the law. I ran for state representative a few years ago, and also worked with many local and statewide officials, and I've also been mistreated by police accusing me of a crime that never happened. I hosted a political radio talk show and know many lawyers who have dealt with cases involving constitutional violations and the bottom end of the law.

I -know- this issue front to back, top to bottom.

When youre cuffed and shoved into the back of a Crown Vic and left there for almost 2 hours for your neighbors to see (for no good reason other than humiliation), you come back and we'll talk, buddy.

I wish I filed a lawsuit back then. I'd be a rich man. Instead, I finally left town.

Absolute power corrupts. Power corrupts absolutely.

-Jesda

[89240sx]

Let me make something clear to you, kid. I've been on both sides of the law. I ran for state representative a few years ago, and also worked with many local and statewide officials, and I've also been mistreated by police accusing me of a crime that never happened. I hosted a political radio talk show and know many lawyers who have dealt with cases involving constitutional violations and the bottom end of the law.

I -know- this issue front to back, top to bottom.

When youre cuffed and shoved into the back of a Crown Vic and left there for almost 2 hours for your neighbors to see (for no good reason other than humiliation), you come back and we'll talk, buddy.

I wish I filed a lawsuit back then. I'd be a rich man. Instead, I finally left town.

Absolute power corrupts. Power corrupts absolutely.

-Jesda

well my response was deleted ,... if you want to know aim me at freebsdx86 and i'll be glad to tell you

[Bubba1]

Now this thread is interesting!

Actually, a few years ago Dateline did a report on how some municipalities disqualify you from becoming an officer if you score too high on aptitude tests. The justification was that the job was too mundane, and required someone who wouldnt become bored by it.

-Jesda

Gee, isn't Dateline the wonderfully ethical program that about the same time got caught rigging explosives in a Chevy Pickup truck to use as proof in a story they did about Chevy pickups exploding during side impacts? It's true. And it cost NBC several million to settle the lawsuit.

And 98K:To answer your question. Completely irrelevant. Some townships have them and some don't. But if you think you were recorded, you better step back and think clearly about what really transpired. Anger has a way of clouding events. So if you intend to question the cop's behavior in open court, you better be very accurate as a video will show the events without emotion, and could hurt you as much as help you. You really should talk to a lawyer if you're going to contest it.

[U12 2NR]

So now you want to know if the officer recorded your conversation or not, to see if you can lie or not? Why don't you just stick to what you said in the first place and EXPECT a recording of the event?

[rydwhite]

This is the most ridiculuos thread I have read. It was a simple question that was answered and now has gotten off topic and people have began to get a little too heated in their reply's. Calm down people. Take a deep breath, now let it out. Feel better?

[TrunkMonkey]

You know what...I was doing 35 mph on that road whether you believe it or not..!!

suuuuuure you were, inmate # 895267430146-001.

-demetrius

[APEXi240]

This is the most ridiculuos thread I have read. It was a simple question that was answered and now has gotten off topic and people have began to get a little too heated in their reply's. Calm down people. Take a deep breath, now let it out. Feel better?

You just described a vast majority of the threads on NICO...

Bubba is onto something though....Goddamn liberal media.

[jdmfreak]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bubba1 "]Gee, isn't Dateline the wonderfully ethical program that about the same time got caught rigging explosives in a Chevy Pickup truck to use as proof in a story they did about Chevy pickups exploding during side impacts? It's true. And it cost NBC several million to settle the lawsuit.

HAHA! I havent heard about that one.

[Mr1der]

and to think, all this could've been avoided had they gotten delivery....

DAMN YOU CARRY OUT!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!!