Specialty Engineering KA24E question...

[S13CoupeLover]

What would this red thing where the alternator would go????



I dunno what it could be. any thoughts??

[lancet913]

Dry sump oil system

[S13CoupeLover]

Oh wow... didn't think of that. Thank you.

[breadbox]

How many people on here run a dry sump?

Never really looked into it, but it seems like it'd be easier to maintain.

[breadbox]

Also what 240 or pickup is that?

[mattblancarte]

How many people on here run a dry sump?

I'd say less than .1%. It's just too expensive and pointless for most people.

[breadbox]

I mean is it "better" for the motor than wet sump?

Is there any drawback other than price for dry sump?

I'd like to when I am building/learning to build motors install a dry sump and learn about setting them up. They have noow caught my interest.

[S13CoupeLover]

So wait... these cars truly only use 2 belts? water and a dry sump? no need for alt., correct? so wow... a lot less moving parts so a gain in response. and also they're water pump pulleys also seem larger... is that to get more water to flow throughout the engine and in doing so cooling it even more? dang... who would really think about doing this for a KAE?? I wonder what kind of A/F ratio they're running and also timing wow... the timing must be high.

no wonder these people putting out 250+ from a single cam. Also this is the same engine MOST (not all) would just throw away and just go for the DE, cuz they think it'll be a better gain. I say the KAE has more of a greater starting point than a DE.

Also what 240 or pickup is that?

It's a NASport GT3 240sx... or if i'm wrong it could be from their GT4 datsun 510. built by Specialty Engineering.

[S13CoupeLover]

I mean is it "better" for the motor than wet sump?

Is there any drawback other than price for dry sump?

I'd like to when I am building/learning to build motors install a dry sump and learn about setting them up. They have noow caught my interest.

my understanding of a dry sump is you have a oil tank out side the engine. and then you have 2 "motors" one to push the oil to the pistons, crank, etc etc and then another motor or pump to send the oil back. So this basically eliminates windage or excess oil putting extra unwanted force upon the crank, in doing so your basically freeing hp.

if this is wrong sorry please correct me. i dunno how to set it up or truly how it works. this is what i've read. this is not out of experience of using one. i would love to but hell... can't.
Modified by S13CoupeLover at 2:30 PM 10/28/2009

[breadbox]

I want to go to there. So, If your understanding is correct...do want.

[StylesCD]

So wait... these cars truly only use 2 belts? water and a dry sump? no need for alt., correct?

you're going to need an alternator to power the car's battery anywho...

i cant think of an oil powered battery

[float_6969]

Drag car? Doesn't need an alternator.

[sommmatt]

So wait... these cars truly only use 2 belts? water and a dry sump? no need for alt., correct? so wow... a lot less moving parts so a gain in response. and also they're water pump pulleys also seem larger... is that to get more water to flow throughout the engine and in doing so cooling it even more? dang... who would really think about doing this for a KAE?? I wonder what kind of A/F ratio they're running and also timing wow... the timing must be high.

no wonder these people putting out 250+ from a single cam. Also this is the same engine MOST (not all) would just throw away and just go for the DE, cuz they think it'll be a better gain. I say the KAE has more of a greater starting point than a DE.

It's a NASport GT3 240sx... or if i'm wrong it could be from their GT4 datsun 510. built by Specialty Engineering.

Well you're wrong. The difference is in head design. 4 valves move more air than 3. DOHC head flows better. (I have a built KA24E turbo so don't even go there)

Drag car? Doesn't need an alternator.

This.

[S13CoupeLover]

Well you're wrong. The difference is in head design. 4 valves move more air than 3. DOHC head flows better. (I have a built KA24E turbo so don't even go there)

who ever said anything about head flow??? did i?? no... don't get all butt hurt. Sure you've turboed a E and that means what??? try making a KAE N/A to produce 200+ no wait isn't more like 270+?? or around there? I think that'll be the make or break point.

all i'm saying is there's better resources for the KAE than for the DE. How many years of aftermarket/race tuning engineering research went into making a 270+hp KAE?? i'd say a few years give or take.

of course you can slap on a turbo and be all i made 300hp with stock bottom end. try to make that with the same engine but N/A, i'd say a lot more thinking would have to go into it. i bet anything that those people who made those took chances on stuff that they thought might of worked but didn't.

SO bottom line: KAE N/A a whole lot of resources to make one IF you take the time out and just ASK the people who made them some questions to help. There's how many shops that made these engines? rebello racing, specialty engineering, ETC ETC. how many performance places made 270+hp DE?? truly maybe there have been a few, but i can't think of any.

also for me i'd take throttle response over raw turbo power. or possibly i would like to take the challenge of a N/A KAE build. also i think you'll be able to make more than these cars. they have intake restrictions and some other stuff that limit HP, so there's a possible way to get probably close to ~300hp. if there's a will there's a way!

Drag car? Doesn't need an alternator.

not a drag car. SCCA GT3 track car. or NASport GT3 track car.not sure if NASport is a branch off of SCCA but i know they use some of their rulings and stuff.

[Dattebayo]

How many years of aftermarket/race tuning engineering research went into making a 270+hp KAE?? i'd say a few years give or take.

I hope you like a 3K RPM idle.

[S13CoupeLover]

I hope you like a 3K RPM idle.

I'd say more in the range of 1.5-2k idle, but hey you have to take a hit somewhere right? You give some, you lose some.

[killernoodle]

also for me i'd take throttle response over raw turbo power..

Or how about response + raw power?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvgJUChzksI

[Dattebayo]

I'd say more in the range of 1.5-2k idle, but hey you have to take a hit somewhere right? You give some, you lose some.

No. It was a 3000 RPM idle.

[S13CoupeLover]

oh well i'm sorry. still... i'll take that hit for a nice 260+hp at 10k rpm. I would not mind.

[Koshin]

[S13CoupeLover]

eh people have there own opinions, i don't care.