spark plug wires re-wired?

[BigMACKenzie]

so we are trying to get syndicatet3ks vert to fire up and it wont at all. All we get is a very rough then stalling Idle. I took a pic of my engine bay so he could copy the wiring in my car but it did not help at all. Could someone have re-wired or reinstalled the distributer incorrectly? He is going to take some snaps and post them up when he gets home in an hour or so, thanks for your help. we also used the digram from all data and the picture from the chiltons manual and neither of those setups worked either.

[Murdered_T]

so anyways, in the right place now. What is the symptoms? Is it hooked, but not firing? Not hooked at all? no spark? spark but no turn?

[BigMACKenzie]

when we hooked up up how we thought it was supposed to be, we had a nasty rough idling and misfiring that I have only ever heard on cars that had the spark plugs hooked up in the wrong order. before we trailered the car back to his house it was running fine, overheating was the only issue. I just think the timing may have been slightly off bc the engine would literally rock and roll as it started up and ran. I think the root of this problem is that and his inability to re-hook the wires up (not his fault, none of the pics I mentioned matched up with what he had). and both of theese factors together= car no start.

[Murdered_T]

ok cool then we know there is spark, the Dist has to be at the 20 degree mark give or take 2 degrees. When you get the pics lemme know.

[Hijacker]

Ignition timing should be at 15 degrees BTDC.

Big Mack made a comment in Gen Chat that makes me think the distro was pulled and then incorrectly reinstalled. Check the timing with a light, and if it's way off, I would consider resetting the timing according the service manual.

[Murdered_T]

[BigMACKenzie]

well the good news is that I def used the OEM brk-5e11 NGK plugs when we pulled out those stupid fvcking back @sswards bosch plugs but we will check the timing this weekend. oh and syndicatet3k made a whoop @ss spark plug puller when he almost lost the short socket in the spark plug well lol I will make him post pics of that too.

[Hijacker]

Hmm..I'll be damned. I guess I'm too used to working on better motors...SRs

[Murdered_T]

I like SR's but for some reason I am begining to feel that they are being played out. I mean, yea they are an awsome engine, and can handle alot. I have been working, and selling and all that bs with engines and performance for a while, and I have been slowly converting to the torque numbers more than the HP. Sure 470 whp sounds rad, but not if its only pushing 260 tq, I know that is not an accurate number, but I am using them for story telling sake. I like the kind of TQ numbers you can pull out of the KA series, even the VQ, **** if I was not so biased I would build my 240 with an LS swap, but that is overrated too.

ok enough rant, where are the pics Bryan?

[phulawless]

you bryan why dont ya just call? my friend knows how to set everything up correctly cuz we had the same problem lol

[BigMACKenzie]

yo phu! lol sorry man in my internal pda you were still in TX or wherever you flew off too, I am going out to dinner with my family tonight, will you be around on sat?

[Syndicatet3k]

Yo whats up guys! whats up phu! u gonna be by the station? yo B-mack tHANX for startingup the thread for me and thanx to everyone that had a intrest and such ... anyway .... so basically i flushed the radiator and got the crap that was floating in the engine out re assembled and than no start iam sure that the spark plugs were schmood so i got some new ones but one of my friends or maybe the guy installed the dist. hell even me wired it a different way we used like somewiki crap to get it in and becuase iam super noob 5000 zx pro special addition- and dont want to screw over my car i wanted to know how the dist crap works and the correct order for a 1992 240sx vert give me a few mins and ill post some pix .

[Syndicatet3k]

testing these few more minutes

[Syndicatet3k]

[Murdered_T]

well here is the easy way, the firing order is 1-3-4-2 so take the spark plug outta the first CYLINDER and take off the dist cap. put a screwdriver in the plug hole and use a flywheel pilly to crank the screwdriver up TO THE topmost point. Then just rotate the rotor in the position of the shortest plug, and presto, problem solved.

[Syndicatet3k]

i adjusted it did seem a bit off but still no go also even before all of this got started it had a severe over heating problem i assume i need a new head? could a bad head result in not starting after a coolent system flush? would it be better to find anoter KA and swap?

[phulawless]

if there is an overheating problem, check to see that you purged the air out of coolant system, thermostat, that..or it may be a blown headgasket...either way tell bryan to give me a call and maybe my friend and i will roll down and help. my friend w/ the sky blue 180sx can set timing like none other lol so maybe give us a call.

[Murdered_T]

yea check deeper into this because the wiring looks right.