I've had the occasional encounter with Maximas on the roll and the J and the Max (3 liter) are pretty evenly matched. Tonight, I was stopped at a light in "poll position" to continue on down the road that goes from two lanes to one. A car pulls up beside me and I know that he wants to get to the one laner first. I'm not making eye contact because I don't want to tip off the driver that I want the lane. The red light is tired and the guy has a tiny bit of roll going for him but when the light turns green we punched at the same time from what I could tell and he starts pulling on me pretty good. As he edges ahead, rather too handily for my taste, I see that this lane bandit is in a late model Maxima 3.0l with a manual transmission because he chirped the wheels going into second.
He did the old look back as he went from the merge lane to the single lane because I guess he's not too used to 4 door cars making at least a bit of a challenge. Well, damn! The J can't take a Maxima off the line. Not that it should but the difference was more than I'd thought it would be.
I was hoping that he would continue on the same route as me but he turned off at the next light. Some nice twisties on my route and I wanted to see how he would do on them. Oh well.......
Hey! My 1000th post and its about a loss to another Nissan 3.0 liter. Oh, the humanity!:rolleyes
Spanked by a Maxima
once my project gets underway, ill give you the info.
it doesnt look that bad. the cruise control actuator has to go.
im most likely going with Z32 pedals and brackets, z32 clutch master, brake master. the shock tower has to be cut slightly [maybe not, have to see]
and the center console has to come out and be modded for a shifter boot. the transmission tunnel needs to be cut and bracketed for the shifter, and the driveshaft might need to be shortened.
cant forget about the transmission mounts/crossmember
it doesnt look that bad. the cruise control actuator has to go.
im most likely going with Z32 pedals and brackets, z32 clutch master, brake master. the shock tower has to be cut slightly [maybe not, have to see]
and the center console has to come out and be modded for a shifter boot. the transmission tunnel needs to be cut and bracketed for the shifter, and the driveshaft might need to be shortened.
cant forget about the transmission mounts/crossmember
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I got a shop by my house that will do a 5-speed conversion for me for close to 3 grand. As soon as I get the money I'll be all over that... The shop works on Z cars and he said it will be more money for me because of all the custom work involved. The fact that the Js wheelbase differs from the Z32s involves a custom driveshaft that would have to be fabricated. Throw in how hard it is to mount a clutch, and you got yourself 1 expensive project. But the moral of the story is that anything can be done for the right price, right?
I've looked into turbo conversions and that's even more fun than the 5-speed conversion. Eswift knows alot about it, he pretty much listed everyting for me to get, which isnt the problem, the problem is fitting everything in the bay. This involves custom piping and all kinds of fun stuff.
I've looked into turbo conversions and that's even more fun than the 5-speed conversion. Eswift knows alot about it, he pretty much listed everyting for me to get, which isnt the problem, the problem is fitting everything in the bay. This involves custom piping and all kinds of fun stuff.
Ivory you crack me up. Every time there's a post about turbo or transfering a 5spd you always chime in with the craziest modding ideas. Man, you are proving that turbo-charging a J is freakin hard. Anyway, for the record im rooting you on in your project, and i want NUMEROUS pics when you're done. Keep fighting the good fight!!!
oh, and dont worry about it, if it gets done, you guys are getting pictures, video, dyno sheets, and rice hunting videos. ill take the camera down to hunts point on saturday nights and see how it does.
yeah, i sound crazy but thats the only reason i have the car. it purely a project. its not even registered. i love doing things that havent been done before. i came on here and did some research, and once i saw not many people mod these cars, it was the one for me.
yeah, i sound crazy but thats the only reason i have the car. it purely a project. its not even registered. i love doing things that havent been done before. i came on here and did some research, and once i saw not many people mod these cars, it was the one for me.
i just hope i can get it done by may-june. the parts add up to quite a bill, then i gotta take like 3 weeks off of work to actually do the conversion.
once it gets underway, im gonna be selling the stock j wheels, motor, transmission, ecu, tcu, wiring harnesses, and exhaust. the wheels are not t wheels. my friends mother bought the car new, and didnt like the bbs wheels so she got rid of them.
the car's got 108k on it. im probably gonna get rid of everything to whoever wants it for 500+shipping. its either that or the junk yard.
oh, and the exhaust is missing the stock muffler. it got dual flowmasters [40 series i believe]
once it gets underway, im gonna be selling the stock j wheels, motor, transmission, ecu, tcu, wiring harnesses, and exhaust. the wheels are not t wheels. my friends mother bought the car new, and didnt like the bbs wheels so she got rid of them.
the car's got 108k on it. im probably gonna get rid of everything to whoever wants it for 500+shipping. its either that or the junk yard.
oh, and the exhaust is missing the stock muffler. it got dual flowmasters [40 series i believe]
Which RB are you going to get? And where do you plan on getting it? Im just curious because that thing is going to cost a freakin fortune... Plus the VGTT would probably be easier to fit than an RB because the RB is an inline. I mean, going with an RB would kick total ***, but thats gotta be much harder than a TT swap. I think the easiest overall would be to mount the twin hairdryers from a z32 and then just tune everything and make sure you cool it right. Thats what Eswift was tellin me.
ok, heres my reasoning.
the vg motor in the j has a slight bend on the drivers side exhaust manifold to clear the steering shaft.that makes using stock z32 manifolds and turbos out of the question. the steering shaft intersects the area that the stock turbos sit.on top of that, the z32 tt motor is a pain to work on. take the j's already crowded engine bay, and add two turbos, piping, and two intercoolers.ill pass on that.
now, when the rb26 is installed in the z32, there is 2.8-3.0 inches of room that needs to be clearanced. the j has 3.5-4 inches more length in the engine bay than the z32. [you see the black convoluted tubing that feeds the throttle bodies...]
ok, now with the straight 6, that clears up a ton of room around the shock towers. the stock manifolds are going to hold garrett gt25's, custom downpipes, to my custom dual 2.5 inch exhaust
the j30's vg30 uses a front sump oil pan. the z32 does not. the rb26 DOES. the j30 crossmember will bolt to custom mounts im going to have machined for the RB. custom transmission member for rb25 transmission. there is an exedy twin plate clutch on ebay im considering.
front mount intercooler. modified skyline ic piping, stock recirculation valves, twin z32 maf's.
walbro FP, 660 or 720 injectors, apexi power fc.
the j's driveshaft will either be shortened or discarded in favor of a one piece unit. rear 4.08 gears and a KAAZ 1.5 LSD.
z32 front brakes, master cylinder, clutch master cylinder, z32 clutch and brake pedals and brackets
there is some other stuff i probably forgot from the top of my head.
add up those parts, and you can see why its gonna take me a little while to save all the money for it.
cant forget the hicas elimination.
the vg motor in the j has a slight bend on the drivers side exhaust manifold to clear the steering shaft.that makes using stock z32 manifolds and turbos out of the question. the steering shaft intersects the area that the stock turbos sit.on top of that, the z32 tt motor is a pain to work on. take the j's already crowded engine bay, and add two turbos, piping, and two intercoolers.ill pass on that.
now, when the rb26 is installed in the z32, there is 2.8-3.0 inches of room that needs to be clearanced. the j has 3.5-4 inches more length in the engine bay than the z32. [you see the black convoluted tubing that feeds the throttle bodies...]
ok, now with the straight 6, that clears up a ton of room around the shock towers. the stock manifolds are going to hold garrett gt25's, custom downpipes, to my custom dual 2.5 inch exhaust
the j30's vg30 uses a front sump oil pan. the z32 does not. the rb26 DOES. the j30 crossmember will bolt to custom mounts im going to have machined for the RB. custom transmission member for rb25 transmission. there is an exedy twin plate clutch on ebay im considering.
front mount intercooler. modified skyline ic piping, stock recirculation valves, twin z32 maf's.
walbro FP, 660 or 720 injectors, apexi power fc.
the j's driveshaft will either be shortened or discarded in favor of a one piece unit. rear 4.08 gears and a KAAZ 1.5 LSD.
z32 front brakes, master cylinder, clutch master cylinder, z32 clutch and brake pedals and brackets
there is some other stuff i probably forgot from the top of my head.
add up those parts, and you can see why its gonna take me a little while to save all the money for it.
cant forget the hicas elimination.
yeah, its gonna cost a fortune in just parts. im doing all the labor myself, except for the mounts and exhaust that i HAVE to pay to have fabricated.
im expecting it to take me about 3 weeks nonstop to perform. its gonna be one of the biggest PITA conversions i have ever done. thats why i think its gonna be fun.
its just the damn price on everything that i can see as being the only reason i might not get it done in time for summer.
if i cant get this going by june, im gonna be pissed.
im expecting it to take me about 3 weeks nonstop to perform. its gonna be one of the biggest PITA conversions i have ever done. thats why i think its gonna be fun.
its just the damn price on everything that i can see as being the only reason i might not get it done in time for summer.
if i cant get this going by june, im gonna be pissed.
the one thing i have my heart set on that doesnt look like its gonna be doable is having my exhaust fabbed from titanium piping. i have a hard time keeping the parts bill down, thats why i gotta go over it a few more times and try to cut as much of the extra crap i dont really need out.
theres nothing electrical that i cant do myself, im going to try to use alot of the skyline parts, and alot of the other stuff is comming from junk yards like the maf's and possibly the brake system, the pedals, ect ect. i figure my parts bill as being $13k, which im trying to get lower and lower, because that really steep. its a matter of finding the best deals on junkyard and used parts.
its the cost of the clip that kills.
theres nothing electrical that i cant do myself, im going to try to use alot of the skyline parts, and alot of the other stuff is comming from junk yards like the maf's and possibly the brake system, the pedals, ect ect. i figure my parts bill as being $13k, which im trying to get lower and lower, because that really steep. its a matter of finding the best deals on junkyard and used parts.
its the cost of the clip that kills.
Re: Spanked by a Maxima
At least you got beat by family. NISSAN LOVE...:icesangel Danisiti 1 (DatsunNissanInfiniti) Yeah!VimyJ wrote:Hey! My 1000th post and its about a loss to another Nissan 3.0 liter. Oh, the humanity!:rolleyes
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yeah, chris that was your idea when i was still trying to figure out a way to get the vg to fit.
that price tag is for the everything in the car, and injectors, turbos, and ecu.
im doing all the work myself, so i dont have labor to worry about.
only labor cost i have to worry about is the machine shop.
if i cant come up with that, im going to just do the motor stock, and save the mods for later. that would get me in just under 10k.
i cant say either way for a few months. i just hope i can get it all together at once.
it might be up on jackstands for a few weeks if i run out of money for new wheels to clear the z32 brakes.
that price tag is for the everything in the car, and injectors, turbos, and ecu.
im doing all the work myself, so i dont have labor to worry about.
only labor cost i have to worry about is the machine shop.
if i cant come up with that, im going to just do the motor stock, and save the mods for later. that would get me in just under 10k.
i cant say either way for a few months. i just hope i can get it all together at once.
it might be up on jackstands for a few weeks if i run out of money for new wheels to clear the z32 brakes.
i would really like to do it all in one shot so i can do the mods to the motor while its out of the car.
i dont want to have to go back after everythings in to do new turbos, downpipes, injectors and the head gasket.
i cant decide if i want to run on the stock turbos untill either summer after next, or until i spit the ceramic wheels out of my exhaust.
i can drive myself crazy trying to balance parts. i want everything, but i dont want the pricetag.
i dont want to have to go back after everythings in to do new turbos, downpipes, injectors and the head gasket.
i cant decide if i want to run on the stock turbos untill either summer after next, or until i spit the ceramic wheels out of my exhaust.
i can drive myself crazy trying to balance parts. i want everything, but i dont want the pricetag.
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