Sooooo....

Discuss topics related to the CA18DE and CA18DET series engines.
User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Pretty sure my engine is on the way out. Or some part of it for that matter. At idle sounds like the lifters are making noise pretty bad, then when I hit about 4K rpm it starts making a sound that's rpm based that sounds pretty horrible. I can't tell what it is the higher the rpm the worse it sounds. So from that i'm guessing I'm on borrowed time for a bit.
I'll probably end up buying an engine from Dee but wanted to put it out there to see what people have laying around.
If i'm going to do a rebuilt engine I'm fool proofing the ********** out of it. So at the moment what I would be looking for is a bare head don't need cams valves guides lifters nothing bare as bare can be. And a bottom end no pistons rods, do need a GOOD crank, and oil pan and misc bottom end parts no turbo or manifold, just mainly a block crank and pan.
So far I'm just looking for a good deal to keep me on the road. When I go to do my clutch I figure may as well do a rebuilt engine with it. I'd like to build one and I think I have enough time with the current situation to still be able to do that if I can get a block n head for a decent price. However if the situation gets worse fast, I know who I'm going to lol :yesnod

Why I'd like to start with nothing? Expensive in the long run but I would like to build a head with tomei parts. Cams/Solid Lifters new guides valves and valvesprings. On the bottom end probably do the forged pistons and rods, and I want to change to a top mount turbo mani and a tomei arms turbo. So I've got a taste for Cristal on a beer budget lmao. Currently waiting for my taxes should be any day so peeps let me know what you have, and prices please. :mike Thanks guys for helping a fellow CA'er to keep his on the street:)


User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

Idk if this will help or not but you could always change your oil with something like Maxlife 10w40 and add 1qt of Lucas oil additive to it when you do it. When I still had my KA I ran the same combo. It used oil when I got it and after about a year the lifters got a little noisy and I started using the Lucas with the Maxlife oil and they quieted down A LOT and my oil consumption decresed SIGNIFICANTLY.

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Well thanks for the heads up it just so happens i'm doing an oil change on it on tuesday so I'd do that combo for sure and see if I notice a slight improvement, if anything at least it should quiet it down a little lol....
I hate to say this but I think a solution may have just presented itself. I know the word SR is a sacrelige on here but it just so happens a guy up the street has one to sell me and that totally resolves the whole shipping issue. On the plus side by getting that and putting it in the shell I have that will buy me plenty of time to get things sorted out with the CA, I guess stay tuned, unless I hear anything on a decent CA for 1000 shipped lmao.(as thats what he's selling the complete sr motorset and transmission for) (and it doesn't have to be shipped lol)

User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

Cant say I like that choice but I cant fault it either

tommey
Posts: 367
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:12 pm
Car: S13 ca18det

Post

IMO i wouldnt change the valve guides unless they are worn wich are rare on cast iron guides.
Another reason for changing them is if you are going for stainless valves.
If you change to other guides they are often bronze and they last SIGNIFICANTLY shorter than the stock cast iron.
I have used Audi guides in some of my CA and 2jz projects, i think they will work in RB and maybe SR also.
If anyone wants to know i can check wich Audi engine they belong to.
They are half the price of supertech, and the same material.

Sorry for my semi-offtopic.

TheMAN
Posts: 272
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:36 pm

Post


User avatar
float_6969
Moderator
Posts: 17366
Joined: Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:55 pm
Car: CA18DET swapped 1995 Nissan 240sx (too many mods to list)
2015 SV Leaf w/QC & Bose (daily)
Location: Topeka, Kansas
Contact:

Post

Sorry to hear the bad luck man, but I can't blame you on the SR deal either. It's not a bad motor, you'll be happy with it.

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Thanks guys, well I'm going to go look at the sr and see if it's something I want to work with. I'm kinda torn atm.
I need to be able to drive my car to work but with the issues idk I want to fix my CA. At the same time that's going to mean I'm down my ride because I'm going to need to do a rebuild. I'm not sure what state the SR is in but going to be be pretty tedious about looking it over. Should I buy the SR for 1000, and keep my fingers crossed, or should I save up more buy another CA, wait for the shipping and go from there? I have a few figures to toss out. Now I have a brand new complete clutch kit for the CA which is ready for a rebuilt engine. The best I'm going to be able to do on a rebuilt CA shipped I'm guessing is going to be 2000 easy. Now the SR is right up the street but no telling what it needs. As far as I'm aware it's just a starter(125) and a clutch (325), and a new Radiator (135). so 1600 rounded out assuming nothing else is wrong with it. So possibly saving me $400, and not having to worry about shipping. I don't know it's one of those may be D@#&!* if I do or D@#$%! if I don't situations. Idea's anyone? Thanks all for the advice :bigthumb:

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Quick overhauled KA swap to get you to work and throw the CA on an engine stand and get to work.

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Well TMS you have a point, but the only issue is lol the KA is in a car and that car is 72 miles south of me lmao.
But the owner wants only 700 for it complete. Now in it's current state I'm not even going to think about attempting to make that drive much less haul a ka and transmission up here lmao. I might talk to a friend with a truck and see what I can pay him he'd probably want 100. So figure 800 to get the KA up here. So that's another option for sure. :yesnod
Now my only other issue is probably that I don't have a hoist lol so me and my buddy were thinking if I get 2 of those really big floor jacks we can get the front end up high enough to drop the cross member and bring the engine in from the bottom? Or should I just go out to harbor freight and buy a hoist???

User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

I agree with TMS. Your harness is already converted so why wire another engine after spending a grand on it. Grab a KA for a few hundred bucks with the harness, set it in and rattle that timing chain around town until you can complete your CA overhaul. My $.02 though

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Welllllllllll................Gents I picked up the black top today. The guy wanted 1k for it so I did a run down of everything, it's missing a few things but I think it's something I can handle. The whole engine is mostly apart aside from the block n head. So I talked him down to 750$ lmao :rotfl So instead of going KA for $700 I'm going black top SR for 750 lol. Now granted it's already costing me more in the long run, but for a complete SR swap for 750 minus a few parts I could not pass it up lol! So over the month or 2 I'll be slapping some things together to get it road worthy, and after the swap I will need all the help I can get with the CA because when I do the rebuild on it, I'm not leaving a freakin thing on it untouched, I want to do it right this time around and bullet proof the heck out of it. I hate to say this but even though this is the CA forum I'm still going to be turning to you guys for some answers on the sr at times because alot of the guys on the sr forums just seem to be pompus @$#^%$%@$# :tisk: And all of us CA guys seem a little more level headed and down to earth to figure out problems with. Just my opinion anyways. All of you have always been the best and I value all of your input. I'm def not giving up on the CA just putting it to the side for a bit. Then when I get it out n start the rebuild I want a few ideas lol! Thanks again guys

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

s13drifter88 wrote: set it in and rattle that timing chain around town until you can complete your CA overhaul. My $.02 though
So that's not just an FJ thing? :gapteeth:
ganma_ca wrote:I hate to say this but even though this is the CA forum I'm still going to be turning to you guys for some answers on the sr at times because alot of the guys on the sr forums just seem to be pompus @$#^%$%@$# :tisk: And all of us CA guys seem a little more level headed and down to earth to figure out problems with. Just my opinion anyways. All of you have always been the best and I value all of your input. I'm def not giving up on the CA just putting it to the side for a bit. Then when I get it out n start the rebuild I want a few ideas lol! Thanks again guys
Owning a CA18 is like spending time in prison. No matter what you do later, the physical and mental scars are permanent and you can always count on love from the homies you made "inside." ;)

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Lmao TMS :rotfl Well at least now I know not to drop the soap anywhere around here lol :chuckle:
It's always been my legit goal to build a period correct silvia from 89 and that's CA included, so yeah keep it real homies :naughty:

User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

No mad man, it's not just an FJ thing. Hell you should here the single cam in my truck when it starts. Timing chain says WTFOMGBBQPIZZA till it builds oil pressure. I need to get time to replace the timing set, I know it's a stretched chain and worn tensioner.

OP, for CA help start by going through some of our build threads. Mine is on here and I'm sure float and tms have one and Dee is always a big help and great to do business with too. There's also some great stickies too. Between those 3 nobody should have a problem putting one of these sub-mountain dew bottle motors together. Is it bad I can drink more Jager than my engine displaces lol!!!

As for the SR people on here I don't want to bad mouth anyone on here (except one person (float knows) here on Nico) but when I buily my friends SR I didn't find them much help. Just got told to search or that doesn't go here ect ect. Note my signature!

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

The SR attracts a certain element just like the CA, the RB and the KA do. There is a bit more adolescent bravado over there as the SR is a more trendy motor. CAs are the black sheep so it seems to foster a more supportive group because we are outcasts everywhere else. The lightly beaten path is rough, but there are friendlier folks on it.

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Dude so well put TMS :yesnod
So soooo true. That is the thing I think I hate the most... Hey man does that thing have a SR in it??? NO #%@^##$^ YOU! IT HAS THE ORIGINAL GANGSTER in it the CA18DET, CA18det for life! :chuckle:
But one of my rides will fall victim to the SR craze but my favorite is always going to be my ca silvia lol:)
TMS I'll make us some shirts that say CA18DET FTW and we'll drive around with Jason masks and when someone says anything to the contrary that CA's aren't the best we'll pull out are base ball bats and show them what rod knock sounds like :rotfl

User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

I like the sound of automatic weapon fire better! <Inserts mag, releases slide> lol

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Which one should I bring to the party, the Glock26?
Image

Might need some more .40 party favors; better bring the XDm.
Image

If those won't crack that alloy block, I got the Kimber.
Image

There's a lot of them, better engage at rifle range. It ain't got a stock, but should get out to 300 yards and the fireballs are good illumination,the SIG556.
http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o141 ... g_0001.mp4
Image

Not enough stopping power, we can boost up to the LWRC 6.8.
Image

SRs in the wire! This is a moment for the Saiga 12.
Image
Image

If you ever wondered where all the money to build a bad to the bone motor went, now you know. :crazy:

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Je-Zues! TMS freakin has an arsenal who would have thought lol. Well when zombies attack I know who's prepared lmao :rotflmao

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Made me a kit for just that. My Glock26 and a previously unrevealed Smith&Wesson M&P AR15 and a buttload of ammo. This is my SHTF case, grab and go. I hope to never need to dig it up.

Image

boost_boy
Posts: 7051
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:28 am
Car: B12 sentra w/built CA18DET, B12 sentra w/fully-built CA18DET, S13 coupe w/ CA18DET, S13 hatch w/CA18DET, 2002 maxima SE
Location: Miami, FL.
Contact:

Post

themadscientist wrote:Made me a kit for just that. My Glock26 and a previously unrevealed Smith&Wesson M&P AR15 and a buttload of ammo. This is my SHTF case, grab and go. I hope to never need to dig it up.

Image
My Dog :yesnod ! This retired U.S. Marine can appreciate toys of this caliber. Before I collected CA18 parts, I collected weapons and still maintain a pretty hard-hitting cache myself. Sweet sight.......

For ganma_ca: Good luck with the SR, man. And we'll be here when you need us.

User avatar
ganma_ca
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:19 am
Car: 240sxxx
1CA +1SR = 3.8L

Post

Thanks Dee you da man! :mike

I'll be looking to you for some more advice when I start the rebuild on my CA:) Being that you've probably built 25+ so far over the years lol. I've got some plans and I know when it comes to what to do to bullet proof a CA you know whats up.
In the off chance my CA self destructs I'm still coming to you for one foooor sure! But I want to build a CA partially, like go with the tomei solid lifters some of them bump sticks titanium retainers valves n springs, n a little head work, that's what I want to start off with anyways. But as always thanks again guys always for the advice and all being legit!
It's great over the years seeing the 3 of you here offering so much support for the CA (TMS,Dee, Float) As far back as I can remember you 3 and a couple others on here are a huge credit to the CA fans, again always glad I can count on you guys for advice! :biggrin: (and also TMS if we ever enter WW3 I'm headin that way lmao)

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Dee, check your PM an get back to me. ;)

User avatar
float_6969
Moderator
Posts: 17366
Joined: Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:55 pm
Car: CA18DET swapped 1995 Nissan 240sx (too many mods to list)
2015 SV Leaf w/QC & Bose (daily)
Location: Topeka, Kansas
Contact:

Post

Do the Japanese KNOW you have all that chilling in your house? They don't strike me as the kind of government that would be down with all that... ofcourse with all of that, you don't really have to worry about what they think anyway, LOL!!!

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

All I have in Japan is a BB gun. It's a really cool BB gun, though. I'll shoot your eye out kid! :chuckle:

Image
http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o141 ... e250-1.mp4

That and a huge knife. I want to get a compound bow since I figured out you can have those here. Get my luke duke on with some dynamite arrows. :gapteeth:

User avatar
float_6969
Moderator
Posts: 17366
Joined: Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:55 pm
Car: CA18DET swapped 1995 Nissan 240sx (too many mods to list)
2015 SV Leaf w/QC & Bose (daily)
Location: Topeka, Kansas
Contact:

Post

That's pretty cool actually!

boost_boy
Posts: 7051
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:28 am
Car: B12 sentra w/built CA18DET, B12 sentra w/fully-built CA18DET, S13 coupe w/ CA18DET, S13 hatch w/CA18DET, 2002 maxima SE
Location: Miami, FL.
Contact:

Post

float_6969 wrote:Do the Japanese KNOW you have all that chilling in your house? They don't strike me as the kind of government that would be down with all that... ofcourse with all of that, you don't really have to worry about what they think anyway, LOL!!!
Do not PM my mother as she does not have an account on NICO, so she will never see it (You get what I'm saying) :lolling: . Trying PMing me again "Big Dog"

User avatar
s13drifter88
Posts: 1111
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am
Car: 93 S13 Coupe CA18DET (Money pit)
1996 D21 Hardbody (Work truck/daily)
!993 Del Sol (Daily)
1987 Pontiac GTA (Drag project, other money pit)
1989 SOHC S13 Buzz Car
Location: Huntsville, AL

Post

Mad man, looks like you opened ONE of my safes. Nice assortment, esp on the M&P15. I backed my M&P15 with an M&P40. Then followed with a Remington 870 tactical 12ga and my Remington 700BDL-P 7mm rem mag with a 28" barrel. That's my Zombie Case. My M&P is rocking a Daniel 1:7 6r 15" barrel, Black Rain Ordinance trigger assembly and buffer spring, Ruger piston conversion, Daniel 4 mount with Aimshot 8100 green dot, streamlight tlr-1, FAL front foregrip and rear grip, NcStar upper mount with a TG8380 Halo sight (offset) and an Acog TA31RCO to finish it off. Gemtech M402 supressor on the way with SSAR stock to finish it off

Did I mention I just joined the Marine Corps lol

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Former Marine myself. They taught me how to use the AR platform to good effect. I have a red dot on the Sig, but for the rest I still rock iron sights. The XDm and Kimber have green dot tritium sights, though.


Return to “CA18DE / CA18DET Forum”