Someone. Little help. SR turns over VIA starter, no crank.

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CRyan
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Alrighty, to get everyone up to par - My car has been sitting up for roughly 2-3 weeks due to insufficient funds to purchase one of the turbo coolant lines. Well, I was finally able to get it the other day. I go to the car to move it from the house to the shop (filled radiator with water) and went to head out. Well, firstly I will tell you that I ran my battery down attempting to start it. It is usually difficult to start when cold (due to cold start wire not connected in ignition), but this time, it wasn't having it. I attempted to crank it til it killed the battery.

OH YEAH. I had disconnected my CAS plug, just to over look its wiring. It was still unplugged the whole time I was attempting to crank it. So I plug it up, and it cranks right up. I begin to drive it, get down the road, and as I go through 2nd gear it just quits. No sputter, no clanking, no pop pop pop, nothing that SOUNDS detrimental.

I get it into the gas station and only can assume I was out of gas. Get gas in it. Still nothing.

I now recognize a leak from my water pump. COOL. So, 2 coolant leaks, for everyone keeping up.

I try to start it again to no avail.

SO - Cliffnotes.

-First attempt at cranking car killed battery; Turns out CAS was unplugged.
-Car ran fine for roughly 5 minutes, died while car was in rev, no noises, nothing odd.
-Car's fuel pump comes on, and the car burps in and out as I attempt to crank it. At one point, it almost tried to idle, but failed.

Is there a way, seeing as the CAS wasn't plugged, that I could have thrown it out of place? I know doubtful, but I'm going on hopes and dreams.

Also, could running the battery down so low and trying to crank it have damaged anything internally on the ECU?

Any advice, anyone been the predicament, PLEASE COME ON IN.

I really need this vehicle, for its my only mode of transportation, atm. Everything has hit rock bottom for me, but no need to get into that.

ALL HELP IS APPRECIATED.
Thanks
Corey AKA CRyan

(EDIT)
Also, don't know if it means anything. But I did to KA trans swap roughly a month ago. I broke input shaft in HALF. I felt pretty awesome, to say the least.


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so do u hear it popping thru the intake as u try to start it?

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CRyan
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To be honest, it almost sounds like its coming from the exhaust side :/

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then your timing is off. if u have access to a timing light, have someone try and crank it while you hold the timing light to the crank pully. you can still see if its at 15 deg even with the motor not running. if the timing mark is not in the right spot then u know where the problem is. gurantee u its timing though

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CRyan
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But what I'm curious is to how it would have gone out? Like I said, the car had cranked, idled, and ran for approximately 5 minutes before it just ca-put.

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Your cas could have been loose.

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CRyan
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well when I grabbed it the night this happened, it was still tight and on my paint pen mark. . . I haven't had a chance to go check it out - I know I will be looking over the plugs for any thing. I could have possibly fouled them out during the cranking the first time.

Well. If they fouled out the car wouldn't have made it down the road. This is such an odd occurrence. I can't put my finger on why the car would just die while going down the road.

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If it just quit running on you, than most likely something quit working that delivers spark or fuel. Check over all of your electrical connections and your wiring. When you check the timing, also check to make sure you are getting spark & fuel. Check your fuses, timing, MAF, CAS, coil packs, ECU for codes, grounds, ignitor, fuel pump, etc. and get back to us. Oh, and a big one that some people mess up when wiring the swap, make sure that your connection in the harness at the main ignition wire is good. The one where your coil pack wire (blue/red stripe) and main ignition wire from the SR (black/red stripe) mate to the KA harness main ignition wire (black/red stripe). This is on an S13 though and I know you have an S14 chassis, so double check. Just out of curiousity, why did you do a KA trans swap?

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You can't check the timing while cranking... the timing during cranking is way different than when it's running at operating temp. You need to take out the CAS and reset it using the marks on the end.

After you do that I would follow what homeslice said above me. That should get you some answers.

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CRyan
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face slap*

Well, after further reviewing my engine bay - I notice my car decided to eat a bit of my HKS mesh washable filter. GUESS what else?

There was a bit of that mesh stuck in way of the MAF. That would be a reason it wouldn't run, eh? And I came to the assumption it didn't crank and idle when I unplugged the MAF because well, when I pulled my plugs earlier, they were all GONER'S.

thanks for the help guys - I've got a coolant line to fix

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^lol, yeah, starving the engine of air and/or messing up the MAF reading will cause running issues. That's why I don't run those foam filters. I had a buddy in college with an immaculate CRX with a JDM B16 swap (sold it in 2008 for $9,000 immaculate), had a Greddy foam filter intake kit (among many other mods). We were looking around at stuff one day after he had taken a long road trip, and noticed that about half of the filter had just disintegrated and was gone. He replaced it with an AEM dry flow filter (this is what I run).


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