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So this morning I was browsing YouTube and ran across these.. Its kinda cool to see a G50 President in action, but they are the usual Japanese cheesy commercial. I found them to be a mildly amusing use of 4 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0O0Rx3o ... vkBCq1muBE


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Who is he and who plays Ricardo the driver?

Nothing like a Cheese Whiz soufflé for breaksfast.

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maxnix wrote:Who is he and who plays Ricardo the driver?

Nothing like a Cheese Whiz soufflé for breaksfast.
Ugh. Fire your writer. Worst. Joke. Ever.

Maybe it would have been better if it was displayed in smilies.



Anyway. Thanks for these Wes. The first video has the President looking SWEET! I wish Nissan had attempted to bring that car here. It may have been quite the big seller. My uncle saw my President wallpaper on my notebook and was surprised when I told him that it was the Japanese Q45. He said he would have definitely purchased one had they been available in the USDM.

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It would have been interesting if Nissan had tried to attack the 7 series and S class instead of the 5 series and C class... I still doubt it would have been able to take over much of that, but it has a looks advantage over the 7 and S class IMO.

With a V12 option.....

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Well check this out. It is a President.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

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elwesso wrote:It would have been interesting if Nissan had tried to attack the 7 series and S class instead of the 5 series and C class... I still doubt it would have been able to take over much of that, but it has a looks advantage over the 7 and S class IMO.

With a V12 option.....
I thought that was what the G50 was for?

They sort of conceded the battle with the Cima based Q. At least in my opinion.

Lexus had the right idea, even with the S-Class clone.

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wes, i'm glad you compared the styling vs. build quality in comparing the G50 with the S class MBZ. i personally find many of the older & not so current S body cars to be one of THE BEST large sedan driving experiences available. valentines day i had a date, my date picked me up in a 1998 S320, over 160k miles, been in family since day one. doors closed like a bank vault, ride was perfect, interior appoinments absolutely the finest, seats WAY WAY WAY better than the G50. very torque inline 6. i could go on but it would only depress me. am considering selling my Q & joining the MBZ owners ranks again. i miss my SEC.

why do they spell PRESIDENT in english?

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No!!!!

I can't fault you. I can't wait to get my S500. W140. That thing is soooo nice. One was parked in front of the security/main building on my campus last week. It was navy blue with dark tints. Very nice and clean.

I really want a black one. Or a silver one.

But G50's are awesome in their own right. If the G50 could have been kept around and had the interior updated, it might have been a serious contender.

I pray for a 2010 Q45.

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xerexabante wrote:Well check this out. It is a President.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
that definitely took a lot of love

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Nice find Wes . I love watching any G50 video.

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In that 1st video did you see the interior upgrades that we don't have. Really chaps my arse that they had that technology back then and didn't bring it over. My wife liked the mirror for the back seat - I can live without that one.
captainluigi wrote:...why do they spell PRESIDENT in english?
Good question.

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I think for the price that the original G50 was sold at, those JDM interior features would have been greatly appreciated. As much as I love my Q, I do feel that the interior was a little Spartan.

Even just having that grille would have been a serious plus.

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captainluigi wrote: i could go on but it would only depress me. am considering selling my Q & joining the MBZ owners ranks again. i miss my SEC.
Was your SEC a W126?
captainluigi wrote:.........why do they spell PRESIDENT in english?
Why do they call one model President a "Sovereign"? Probably to copy Jaguar.

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Haitian_King wrote:No!!!!

I can't fault you. I can't wait to get my S500. W140. That thing is soooo nice. One was parked in front of the security/main building on my campus last week. It was navy blue with dark tints. Very nice and clean.

I really want a black one. Or a silver one.
I've seen how someone's say...black/black Q....has made you say that you want to steal it, just because you love it

A W140 will turn you into a car-jacker on a weekly basis so that you can strip the car for parts to keep up with repairs. I'm looking out my window right now and looking at my neighbor's silver W140 and counting my blessings that I own an ACTIVE Q

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I wanted to take the black on black out of pure jealousy and covetousness.

Are W140's really that bad in repairs? They use them as taxis in Europe. Damn. I really want one. And mount small flags on the front fenders ala King Jaffrey Joffer.

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The Cima wasn't a sell-out, it was a bailout. In 95 and 96 the sales fell flat for Infiniti, the G50 lost the war big time. The Cima import was a chance to compete with Lexus with a more stately looking car that road a little closer to what Americans wanted. I agree out of the box the Cima wasn't quite the performer, but if your compare 0-60 times the 97' Y33 is faster than the 96'. I drove them back to back and the 97 was IMHO a more stately more "this is a luxo car" and that was why I chose that over the 96' sitting on the lot next to it (this was in 2000).

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Meh. The 96 with its ODBII was a little doggish.

But 90-93? Fantastic.

I really think that the President would have been a big hit here. Look at the 300C. The "Baby Bentley" name was given in regards to its grille. The President had that before Ralph Gilles (The 300C's designer) knew what was what.

Going by the massive grilles on current Infiniti models, I think that a new Q45 based on an updated G50 design with President characteristics will really do well. Plush seats, more wood, that grille and the hood emblem. Wow. I can only imagine.

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Haitian_King wrote:Meh. The 96 with its ODBII was a little doggish.

But 90-93? Fantastic.

I really think that the President would have been a big hit here. Look at the 300C. The "Baby Bentley" name was given in regards to its grille. The President had that before Ralph Gilles (The 300C's designer) knew what was what.

Going by the massive grilles on current Infiniti models, I think that a new Q45 based on an updated G50 design with President characteristics will really do well. Plush seats, more wood, that grille and the hood emblem. Wow. I can only imagine.
I highly doubt the President would have been accepted here. First off they would never name it Infiniti and everyone in the US of A thinks all Nissan makes is economy cars. The reason the PHG50 was sold in Japan for SO long is because the Japanese people knew they had an amazing car and Nissan is a trusted name. Besides if the President ever came here what would we convert our Q's to look like?

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Why wouldn't they name it Infiniti?

If they left it as the Infiniti President, that would be bad ***. Or even if they didn't give it a literal name and stuck with just a number designation, (more along the lines of luxury cars) like Q45, that would still have been great.

We wouldn't need to convert the G50's if they were already Presidents. That's the only reason I want to do mine. I want to have a unique car that really symbolizes me. The Q is doing a great job, but the President fits me even better. I'm contemplating just buying a RHD one and getting it tagged as a special vehicle, so it'll be street legal. Like the RHD Rolls-Royce cars used in weddings.

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yeah Lino, the sec was a W126 chassis. other than the OVER OVER engineered climate control, there is not one fault i can find w/the auto. simple to work on & parts (relatively) economical. this vehicle sold for $60,000.+ in 1984. that's crazy. would hold 5 sets of clubs, 5 adults & super quiet at 90mph. damn, looking for another right now!

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besides the ridiculousness of having a Q45 and a president being sold in the US, I see the Q45 being sold under a Nissan brand and the President being the infiniti. Who knows, that could have put Nissan/infiniti where bentley/rolls royce is as far as ultra-classy goes...

I dont know, but offering a Nissan president in the US, even in small numbers, may have been worth it.. Then again, Nissan did a pretty good job of screwing up the Q45, in terms of how they marketed it... The best marketing techniques occur when you don't have to market at all... Maybe Nissan could have been right there?

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Remember 75% or greater of the Presidents came with active. Americans wouldn't have maintained it, although that is what they are buying form MB and Lexus with air suspensions.

The Presidents would have been $80K -$100K, not a price Americans would have paid. The cost to develop the few LHD versions would have been prohibitive, and all the gaijin would have thought it was the new Park Avenue anyway.

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maxnix wrote:Remember 75% or greater of the Presidents came with active. Americans wouldn't have maintained it, although that is what they are buying form MB and Lexus with air suspensions.

The Presidents would have been $80K -$100K, not a price Americans would have paid. The cost to develop the few LHD versions would have been prohibitive, and all the gaijin would have thought it was the new Park Avenue anyway.
In early 1990's dollars or now?

They're shelling out close to $50k for that ugly under engineered Chrysler. (That statement is completely prejudiced. I've never driven a 300C or intend to do so. Nissan for life!)

What sort of cost would have been prohibitive? It costs about $12k to convert a Skyline to LHD. To figure that out in a cost effective way at the factory, wouldn't have been a bad idea. Adjust the lights to US specs and reorient the steering wheel, driver's mat, seat/armrest and console.

Big effing deal. Not to mention that everyone that bought the original G50 had the dollars. To spend that much on what could be perceived as the antithesis of comfort and luxury, the extra dough to make it a President would have been almost negligible.

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elwesso wrote:besides the ridiculousness of having a Q45 and a president being sold in the US, I see the Q45 being sold under a Nissan brand and the President being the infiniti. Who knows, that could have put Nissan/infiniti where bentley/rolls royce is as far as ultra-classy goes...

I dont know, but offering a Nissan president in the US, even in small numbers, may have been worth it.. Then again, Nissan did a pretty good job of screwing up the Q45, in terms of how they marketed it... The best marketing techniques occur when you don't have to market at all... Maybe Nissan could have been right there?
I don't think it could have been named Q45 under Nissan. It would need an actual moniker.

But I totally get what you're saying in comparison to Bentley and Rolls-Royce.

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I don't care about the President never making it hear.I'm just sad we never got the LWB G50 in any form. Those ads just reaffirm that. It's a BEAUTIFUL car, and I think it'd look even better with the Q's fascia.
maxnix wrote:and all the gaijin would have thought it was the new Park Avenue anyway.
Yeah, Nissan did a pretty good job of proving that point with the F50.

Unfortunately the Japanese "lux" look is pretty much outdated geriatric look here. Doesn't translate well at all. What's classy there is geezer here. No one wants to pay Buick prices for a Buick, let alone Infiniti prices.When you look like a ripoff of an aging undesirable design to most of your potential buyers, it doesn't matter if you've got super hydratasticmagnetomagic suspension and a silky smooth V8 with all the fancy leather on earth...no one's going to make it as far as a test drive.

As much as I like the REAR of the Japanese Presidents (F50 and G50) I can't stand the front of either. Hell, the F50 President might as well just have a Buick emblem on the hood.

Q45 sleekness is better than President "class" any day. Which one has aged better?

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Crazy.

The F50 is kinda ugly IMO. Too rounded. Bubbly almost.

Now the G50 is great. Come on.

The President front is AMAZING and impressive. Especially for a Nissan. That grille and those huge lights? Outstanding.

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My styling interests as of late have leaned toward Cadillac and Audi. I don't really understand modern day Nissan.

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Jesda wrote:My styling interests as of late have leaned toward Cadillac and Audi. I don't really understand modern day Nissan.
I grew up loving Nissan. It was my favorite Japanese import. For some reason, even though we had a Toyota Camry at one point, I've always had a slight prejudice towards the company. I'm not denying their excellence. They make very good cars. I just don't like them.

You know what new model has really impressed me? The 08 Accord. That thing is wicked. I haven't driven one yet, but the first time I saw it, I was like "What the hell is this huge Honda?".

Toyota ranks 3rd for me in Japanese imports. But I wouldn't mind a GS300.


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