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[MastaYu]

...if you think its too expensive to go to teh track, then why waste money on tires in a parking lot when you say you dont have it or the track is too expensive...when you could simply save it for later use at a track,...

[dennisplus]

Ok. Guys. We'll lave it at that. Thank you for your consideration. I appreciate you caring for m safety and wallet. See you at the track someday.

[spooled240]

stereotypes are just human nature and 240's in general are not getting a bad rap by street drifting alone. It's probably because the majority of fixed of 240's(including mine) have moderately loud and shiny exhaust pipes and have aftermarket aero..and let's face it, a good handful of 240's have 200+hp sr20's in them now...To a cop, a fixed up 240 would look like another import tuner even w/out the drifting craze...think about how many people think our cars are FWD hondas..

I am totally against endangering the public, like what Nick Hogan did..but how can you really compare 30 mph drifting in an empty parking lot to doing 100+ in a supra down a main drag? That's comparing apples and oranges IMHO, the only thing that you can compare them is how they are both against the law..

I don't think you can blame street drifting alone for giving 240's a bad rap, I mean how many innocent people have gotten hurt or killed in the past from doing so drifting in an empty parking lot? Honestly, I've seen more dangerous stuff on public highways and whatnot from normal, everyday drivers.

Realistically, the worst thing that could happen from drifting in an empty parking lot is damage to the driver's car, impound or tickets...and maybe a "bad rap" for 240's but we have to deal with stereotypes and discrimination as human nature.

[Hcraig13]

You gotta have balls to throw your car around a parking lot with that many medians. good job though, i wont do that. I am in the same situation as you. The closest drift event we have is a couple hours away and they maybe do it one day a year. Im not going to pay $100 to go to a drift event and i havn't practiced in a year. I say as long as its in a parking lot and not on a road at 3:00 in the day then its fine. Quit bashing the man. And really?? Nick Hogan reference. Really is there any need for that. Its completely unrelated.

[Joe]

the reason cops KNOW what 240s are is because of drifting. 5 years ago nobody knew what a 240 was because only a VERY select group of people were modifying them. it was great. then a bunch of fanboy FWD converts started buying them because they saw them in option videos.

yes a modified import is stereotyped in general, but the 240 has unfortunately become a standout because of drifting. the stereotype is further perpetuated by people who get caught street drifting every day.

yes going 30mph and looking like a tard in a parking lot is completely unrelated to nick hogan. i completely agree.

you street drifting defenders have no respect for anything other than yourselves.

[dennisplus]

Thanks Josh! hat's exactly what I was trying o say!

[Chaotic_Warlord]

ok. The closest event that we have now is FormulaD that's about 3 hours away from where we live and cost money just to watch now include gas tires food. It's not that we don't want to it's just we don't s#!T money(no offense). I'll be at a track as soon as I can but until then . . . the street is all we got.

:cough:bull****e:cough: You live in Southern Cali, it took me all of 5 freaking minutes on Google to find that that statement is completely false. What you've never heard of Drift Day? http://www.driftday.com/ I mean come on, you drop a couple bucks ($30-50) you go to the racetrack in Fontana and you have a day of it, or you look into your local SCCA chapter and see what's going on in your area.

You think i have money????????? I sold my bed for christ sake. I borrowed $100 from a guy in a wheelchair to make the All Star Bash East Coast. You either want this sh*t or you don't.

you should listen to this guy, he is THE OG of drifting on this board, and I knew it was only a matter of time before he would show up in here... Slappy is so Pro track it's not even funny, and the guy lives in the DC area, cops down there are just as bad as they are in Cali. not to mention the redneck ratio is through the roof.

Mom!! This man is picking on me

You're obviously not to bright are you, the bulk of you posting in here as in the OP's defense are stoopid noobs, see the writing under Joe's name, yeah Moderator means he has the power to press the Ban button and I'm sure you really made him want to hit that button with a comment like that.

Ok here's the deal yeah the Op posted a vid of drifting in a parking lot, which unless he himself owns no self respecting property owner would give th eOK to do that kind of isht in because frankly the liability alone is astronomic to try to figure out let alone the legal ramifications. Ok so the vid was decent, but frankly it looked like I was watching a those involved try to be super cool but just couldn't make the grade. Those of us who have been here for awhile and in the scene for awhile are trying to pass on some friendly advice, you guys on the other hand are taking it as an attack. You think we're bad try posting a thread like this on Freshalloy or Zilvia and act the way you are and you'll know just how harsh it can be when you get banned, we're not going that route and honestly you need to go a far site worse to get banned on here, NICO is a friendly place, if you want to act like complete asses because we try to tell you not to do isht like that, hey it's all good, just don't expect there to be any love when you really do have something to ask or requires an opinion.

Seriously though, track time isn't as expensive as you guys think. Let me put it this way, sponsors don't watch street drifting videos and say hey we should sign that guy, they do however go to legit tracks and say hey that guy's pretty good, we should talk to them. I don't know about you, but personally I'd rather take the hit in the pocket for the unknown chance to to get a sponsorship deal at a track event than risk my life/car or the lives/cars of those around me on the street, but hey that's just me.

Oh and BTW, never assume that the police don't know what you're doing, LEO's surf the web and belong to site's like this because they are into car's and motor sports just as much as you are.

[dennisplus]

I could really care less if I got banned. The only reason I joined was to find and talk about this video right here. Oh, and thanks for the whole "drift day" event thing. We weren't the one that took it as an attack. Some people started of by saying we were stupid, retarted, dumb a$$e$. Yeah that's really the best way to give advice advice.

[Joe]

I could really care less if I got banned. The only reason I joined was to find and talk about this video right here. Oh, and thanks for the whole "drift day" event thing. We weren't the one that took it as an attack. Some people started of by saying we were stupid, retarted, dumb a$$e$. Yeah that's really the best way to give advice advice.

do stupid things, get stupid comments.

its common sense.

[dennisplus]

yes sir mr.moderator sir! You can talk all the S#!T you want but it's totally wrong to say anything to you!

[Joe]

when did i ever say you cant say anything to me?

i said you guys are acting like idiots and you shouldnt be surprised when people tell you that.

and your damn right im talking **** about street drifting.

[dennisplus]

I think we could be good friends man! I like your attitude. Forget everything said. I'm still going to do what I do I just won't talk about it. TRUCE?

[TTaristo]

Vendetta? Right. Just because it started on the streets doesn't mean I won't appreciate the roots. But times change. Yes, I was there back in the days. But like I said, times change. Back then is not the same as now. The risk is so much higher now than it was before. I know I made the mods and such. I know it came with the territory, but the fact is that a few bad apples gave everyone a bad rep, even though just lightly modding their cars for fun use at the track.

OK times change. Theres bad apples. Its been this way since time has begun in every situation.Tell me something I dont know.

And I'll go as far as assuming that what's done in that video isn't given with permission. You think cops won't bust you guys just because it's on private property? Lol. GL giving that excuse to the cops.

I know what it's like to get permission from people. I've had to deal with that in just running RC events. However, usually you have to deal with the property owner, just just the dude who's renting the building and lot. So no, I don't believe something was worked out to make ti allowed..

Ok, your beliefs. Everyone has one. Seems like this is the only thing your holding on too so that you feel as if you "won" in this discussion you started with what is already known.

Yes true OGs never forget the streets, but they know times change. Things progress. They evolve for the better. And moving forward doesn't involve the streets..

Thanks for agreeing with me. Yes, we evolve and move forward. Thanks for telling me what I already know once again.

No longer have a hatch. It was involved in a traffic accident. Didn't get another one because it became a hot car. I rock a Z32 now which I enjoy around town and at the track.

Traffic accident huh? To bad you werent able to "drift" out of the situation. Z32's are tight. Is it Twin Turbo?

[spooled240]

you street drifting defenders have no respect for anything other than yourselves.

totally not true, that's why we pick a secluded area late at night. If we didn't care, we would drift around innocent bystanders and whatnot.

You gotta have balls to throw your car around a parking lot with that many medians. good job though, i wont do that. I am in the same situation as you. The closest drift event we have is a couple hours away and they maybe do it one day a year. Im not going to pay $100 to go to a drift event and i havn't practiced in a year. I say as long as its in a parking lot and not on a road at 3:00 in the day then its fine. Quit bashing the man. And really?? Nick Hogan reference. Really is there any need for that. Its completely unrelated.

yeah drifting around a bunch of curbs isn't that easy and it takes some skill and precision. So I'd say you learn quite a bit.

You're obviously not to bright are you, the bulk of you posting in here as in the OP's defense are stoopid noobs, see the writing under Joe's name, yeah Moderator means he has the power to press the Ban button and I'm sure you really made him want to hit that button with a comment like that.

hey bro just stop, you sound like a kiss a$$..IIRC, us "street drifting defenders" didn't resort to name-calling right away...some of us were called dumbasses with no respect for anything other than ourselves and you're surprised that we took it like an attack?

I don't see why Joe would ban us, we didn't personally attack any of you and we stuck to the topic

Again, no disrespect I just see things differently than some of you.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

hey bro just stop, you sound like a kiss a$$..IIRC, us "street drifting defenders" didn't resort to name-calling right away...some of us were called dumbasses with no respect for anything other than ourselves and you're surprised that we took it like an attack?

I don't see why Joe would ban us, we didn't personally attack any of you and we stuck to the topic

Again, no disrespect I just see things differently than some of you.

Seriously, when people just join a car board only to start a baord war and defend their friends, that unto itself is more than a little gay, I understand the OP just wanted feedback but he himself had 2 posts and started a thread that is the exact same as this elsewhere on this board that Joe proceeded to lock because it got out of hand.

Oh, and how do you figure I sound like a kiss ***? What because I gave Slappy due props, or maybe it's because I gave Joe the respect he deserves for being not just a moderator but one of the main mods on this whole site? I don't post much on here anymore, partly because I don't have the time, but mostly because there are more and more new members that are showing their immaturity.

[Joe]

totally not true, that's why we pick a secluded area late at night. If we didn't care, we would drift around innocent bystanders and whatnot.

yeah drifting around a bunch of curbs isn't that easy and it takes some skill and precision. So I'd say you learn quite a bit.

bull****. you are still doing it on someone elses property without permission. therefore you have no respect for them, the law, or your own image.

and going 30mph around curbs is easier than you think. youve never been to an event so you dont know any better. the second you try to initiate at 80mph for the first time 3 feet from a wall then aim for a clipping point you will understand what it actually takes to be good at drifting.

[TTaristo]

Seriously, when people just join a car board only to start a baord war and defend their friends, that unto itself is more than a little gay, I understand the OP just wanted feedback but he himself had 2 posts and started a thread that is the exact same as this elsewhere on this board that Joe proceeded to lock because it got out of hand.

So I guess your referring to me as being gay. When did defending some one become illegal? When and how did I ever start a war but state my opinion. Ask your self this question please.

SO ANY MORE FEED BACK FROM ANYONE WHO HASNT DONE SO ALREADY ON THE DRIFTING AND EDITING? probably not. lol. Some minds are still focused on the negative aspect of things.

[spooled240]

Seriously, when people just join a car board only to start a baord war and defend their friends, that unto itself is more than a little gay, I understand the OP just wanted feedback but he himself had 2 posts and started a thread that is the exact same as this elsewhere on this board that Joe proceeded to lock because it got out of hand.

Oh, and how do you figure I sound like a kiss ***? What because I gave Slappy due props, or maybe it's because I gave Joe the respect he deserves for being not just a moderator but one of the main mods on this whole site? I don't post much on here anymore, partly because I don't have the time, but mostly because there are more and more new members that are showing their immaturity.

I'm not trying to start shyt or trying to defend anyone, I'm just putting my point of view on the table. Defending someone? Uhh, that's what your doing talking about how Joe can ban us in a second if we don't respect him. I'm not afraid of arguing my point of view.

bull****. you are still doing it on someone elses property without permission. therefore you have no respect for them, the law, or your own image.

and going 30mph around curbs is easier than you think. youve never been to an event so you dont know any better. the second you try to initiate at 80mph for the first time 3 feet from a wall then aim for a clipping point you will understand what it actually takes to be good at drifting.

LOL c'mon bro, just because I did a little smokey tire action in a parking lot means I have no respect for anything? That is over-exaggerating don't you think? The asphault is still in good shape and nothing got damaged. I never said that doing 30mph drifting is gonna make me a pro drifter doing 80mph and 2 inches from the wall, but it DOES teach you about car control. It's not like some guy that never drifted before is gonna go out and start drifting around some curbs right off the bat, it's more complicated. You learn a lot doing switch backs and knowing exactly how to control your car in a slide so you don't hit curbs.

[Slappy]

doing switch backs

[spooled240]

the transition from drifting around one turn then drifting around another turn in the opposite direction, like right to left or left to right.

[s13_maJiK]

ok. The closest event that we have now is FormulaD that's about 3 hours away from where we live and cost money just to watch now include gas tires food. It's not that we don't want to it's just we don't s#!T money(no offense). I'll be at a track as soon as I can but until then . . . the street is all we got.

Your fortunate to live there, I live in Wisconsin there are very very few drift events, ***t i'd spend evey paycheck i'd get to go to events but yet again there are none......Haha you know something funny, I just posted up about how I never get pulled over..I just did like 15 min ago haha Karma's a *****. Got a 15 day for no front plate, but watch this dope video i'm going to make on how to pass the front plate inspection without drilling holes in my bumper haha

[Joe]

Your fortunate to live there, I live in Wisconsin there are very very few drift events, ***t i'd spend evey paycheck i'd get to go to events but yet again there are none......Haha you know something funny, I just posted up about how I never get pulled over..I just did like 15 min ago haha Karma's a *****. Got a 15 day for no front plate, but watch this dope video i'm going to make on how to pass the front plate inspection without drilling holes in my bumper haha

as i told you in your other thread

bull****

http://wheretodrift.com/showthread.php?t=95

there was an event last weekend.

[s13_maJiK]

as i told you in your other thread

bull****

http://wheretodrift.com/showthread.php?t=95

there was an event last weekend.

Hmmm, how bout we look at at the biigger picture? How many events do you see there? Oh yea 3 events, 3 EVENTS!!!! wow I love being able to drift 3 days out of a full year cuz you know thats alot of practice time, right? You know considering it was still F***in snowing in april I bet that event went well. I think i'll tie myself over by doing what i'm doing, until track days come around so I don't look like a complete noob on the track.
Modified by s13_maJiK at 11:25 AM 8/26/2008

[s13_maJiK]

the transition from drifting around one turn then drifting around another turn in the opposite direction, like right to left or left to right.

That's what i'm trying on to work on right now, I keep spinning out when I try and switch the direction of the drift

[spooled240]

yeah it takes practice as I'm still learning, which is why i keep the speed down.

[s13_maJiK]

when your making the transition do you just let off the gas?

[spooled240]

that's what i found out, let off the gas or brake then the car whips around because of the counter steer. Then you let go of the steering wheel and the front wheels will counter steer on their own.

[dennisplus]

Wow Josh! You're a drift teacher now! To bad yo'e supposed to focus more on the canyons! Ha ha! J/K

[s13_maJiK]

Thanks! next time i'll have to try that

[uraznfriend]

Where Do You Guys Do This At? Sickk.